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Why Won't Dell Promote Its Linux Desktops? 355

Brian McCoy writes "In this article, Steven Vaughn-Nichols proclaims "Last Thursday, when I wrote about Dell's new Linux desktop, was one of the most frustrating days of my professional life. My eWEEK colleague John Spooner and I tried our best to get Dell to confess that they really had released an honest-to-God Linux desktop.""
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Why Won't Dell Promote Its Linux Desktops?

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  • by digitaldc ( 879047 ) * on Tuesday February 28, 2006 @10:29AM (#14816262)
    Just for fun and to see if it existed, I tried http://www.dell.com/linux/ [dell.com] and it brought up a page full of information about Dell Linux products and information.

    But it is interesting to note that on the http://www.dell.com/ [dell.com] page, there is nothing about Linux.
    Maybe Dell could add a link to Linux on their root page? Just a thought.
  • Novell Connection (Score:2, Interesting)

    by brickballs ( 839527 ) <brickballs&gmail,com> on Tuesday February 28, 2006 @10:35AM (#14816308) Homepage
    Novell puts out a monthly (free) magazine called Novell Connection [novell.com]. I just got the latest issue a few days ago and I do remember noticing a Dell / Linux Advertisement on the back cover.
  • Silly question..... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by XMilkProject ( 935232 ) on Tuesday February 28, 2006 @10:46AM (#14816394) Homepage
    Everyone knows you can't try to make logical conjectures from anything Dell does.

    Why doesn't someone tell me why Dell screws my company out of hundreds of thousands of dollars each year selling them overpriced server equipment? Or why the Dell reps attempt to bribe our IT department with cash and free laptops if they'll continue to purchase only Dell equipment.

    Or howabout why our Dell contract reads that installing any non-dell equipment on our network violates our warranties? Or how we can't put non-dell ram into our desktop machines, even when Dell has no ram available to sell us.

    Dell can go fuck itself. It makes all its money by ripping off companies, bribing those that do know better and lying to those that don't. Not to mention the shit hardware they deliver...

    Go ahead and order 10 identical desktops from Dell. You'll get 10 boxes that look identical on the outside, but you'll be pleasantly surprised to find they've got 10 different motherboards and ram configurations in them. This is AWESOME for imaging disks! fuck dell.

    To make it more personal I'll mention that my company is one of the largest fast food chains in America, so depending on how you look at it, Dell is directly responsible for high priced fast food. Revolt!
  • by Pedrito ( 94783 ) on Tuesday February 28, 2006 @10:47AM (#14816397)
    Look, I like Linux in a lot of ways. It's definitely a great server OS. And the desktops have come along way. I love seeing the progress and I love playing with them. But given a choice, despite all my frustrations with Windows, I simply find Windows easier to use in a number of ways.

    It doesn't matter which version of Windows you run (okay, not necessarily with '95, '98 or something even more ancient) you can install the same .exe file and run it. On the other hand, with Linux, you usually have to get the executeable for your specific CPU if not your CPU and flavor of Linux. Or, God forbid, you actually have to download the source and build it yourself, which has happened with me with a number of apps because I simply couldn't get the package to install for some reason or another (maybe I couldn't find one of its dependent packages or I couldn't install one of the dependent packages). Installing apps in Linux, especially the less popular ones, can be a very trying experience.

    Just to give a single example, something as simple as a CPU temp monitoring app, turned out to be a nightmare. I spent 3 days trying to get a couple of them installed. Never managed to pull it off, despite passing tons of messages back and forth on linuxforums.org

    There are other things about Linux that simply aren't ready as well. On the other hand, there are areas where Linux has excelled beyond Windows, and that's terrific, but I generally see the failings in being the areas that affect your non-tech users. Ease of use, ease of finding apps, ease of installing said apps.

    These issues need to be addressed and I have no doubt they will be. MS, for all of their faults, have done a pretty good job of making stuff easy to use. It comes, in part, from spending a great deal of time and money doing usability testing of their software.

    Another failing in Linux is that, a lot of apps aren't terribly easy to use. Many Linux developers, especially for smaller apps, still have a tendency to focus on command-line apps. MPlayer, for example: An app for watching movies, is command-line. That makes no sense to me. Sure, I can get a front-end for it, but why don't they just include one so I don't go have to find one that: A> I can manage to get installed and B> That doesn't suck? Command-line should be the secondary method, not the primary method.

    Most non-tech users don't even know Windows has a command line. They don't need to know. That's a good thing.
  • by Tony ( 765 ) on Tuesday February 28, 2006 @11:20AM (#14816671) Journal
    They are a company. They can do the hell they want with their products.

    Damned straight.

    And we are customers, and we have demands. We have the right to demand what we want, just as they have the right to refuse us. That doesn't mean we can't write articles detailing how coy Dell is being with their Linux desktops. We can write whatever the hell we like, especially if it's the truth.

    They are a company. One would hope they listen to their customers, try to keep their customers satisfied. I would further hope that people with money to spend would demand the things they want, as loudly and publicly as possible.

    His right to do what he wants with his company supercedes your right to see the word "linux" on the front page of dell.com.

    That doesn't mean we don't have a right to demand it.

    You seem to advocate quiet, sheep-like customers. I advocate just the opposite: demanding, loud, annoying customers. Demand Linux on the first page! Demand we don't pay a Microsoft tax! Demand we get what we want to get!

    Let Mike Dell do whatever he wants with those demands. That's his company's right. But don't try to silence the customer. It's not called "supply and demand" for nothing.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28, 2006 @11:23AM (#14816695)
    Check out these screen shots ( http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1931945 ,00.asp [extremetech.com]) regarding Windows Vista. The Linux folks have a whole lot of catching up to do, again. While they have been busy bringing the Linux desktop up to modern (ie Windows XP circa 2002) standards MS has been busy raising the bar significantly higher. There are some really nice features that will make the desktop much more friendly for novice users (the crowd LInux needs to capture). The good news is now Vista can be copied too! And since it's alot easier to copy than it is to lead, I expect Linux to catch up again in relative short order.

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