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NBC To Live Stream Olympics Event 186

Posted by Zonk
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An anonymous reader writes "According to Broadcasting Cable, NBC is going to stream the gold medal Men's hockey game live on the NBC Olympics web site. This is in preparation for (hopefully) many more live feeds throughout the year. The video stream will have DRM and IP protection to attempt to limit access to residents of the US, like the other event video on the site. With the stream served by Akamai's CDN, it will be interesting to see if it can sustain the load. The game starts around 8:00am EST on Sunday, Feb 26 if you are interested in checking it out."
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  • I didn't know they had that event in the Winter olympics!
  • Didn't the previous story go over this? Something about Akamai being unable to handle too much load?

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/25/211521 8 [slashdot.org]

    Yeah, I know that Cringley didn't actually mention Akamai.
    • Funny that Zonk Greenlighted both stories :op

      It's okay Zonk, /. is fickle. We'll thank you tomorrow.
    • This should be one of the fewer (or maybe the only) instance of a live video feed site beeing slashdotted by appointment.
      Sad that Zonk wanted to give them a fair notice... well.. Bring lets 'em down !! hee haaa haaaw !!
    • I bet they can handle the load. The game's on at 8 AM EST on a Sunday - that means 7 AM in the Midwest, 6 AM in the Moutain Time Zone and 5 AM on the West coast... And it's hockey... I dunno, there may be some die-hard fans that get up at 5 AM to watch a hockey game live over a grainy Internet connection, but I'd be willing to bet the numbers will be small. I mean, who but the most die-hard of hockey fans is going to get up at 8 AM or earlier on a Sunday to watch a game live on a computer screen when they c
    • As of right now, the stream is "Working" and not overloaded. Connected and playing at 341kbps. Looking for the stream on the NBC site? Seems that their secret is to hide it as deeply as possible so not too many people watch. Hop over to http://www.nbcolympics.com/streaming/index.html?i b _oll=Headline [nbcolympics.com] to get a link to the video.

      Of course, the playlist comes from Doubleclick.net, and yes, the stream itself is coming from Akamai, in my case, a906.v193758.c19375.g.vm.akamaistream.net.

      As a note, this pos

      • As of right now, the stream is "Working" and not overloaded.

        Ahhh, I am proud of /.'ers. Within a few minutes of posting my message, the stream has promptly begun to have issues intermittantly. However we obviously aren't working hard enough here, as it's still working most of the time. Can /. bring Akamai to its knees? Can we drag the speed down, make people buffer all the time, or only see 1 fram every 6 seconds? Do /.'ers in the US actually GET UP at this time of morning... or is it "stay awake until

  • You failed at the olympics coverage! Offering a carrot in the form of an internet stream just shows how much you suck at covering these events.
    • Events at the Olympics? Oh, that sports stuff? I thought that was just there to break up the commercials!
      • "Events at the Olympics? Oh, that sports stuff? I thought that was just there to break up the commercials!"

        I suffered so much mental anguish during the US TV coverage of the last Olympics that I vowed never to watch it again.

        To see so many live events interrupted by human interest vignettes featuring US athletes doing day to day stuff in hometown America was horrific beyond belief.

        At one point I was watching a pole vaulting event only to suddenly find myself watching the life story of one of the US
        • You should have watched the high-def feed, then. The 2004 NBC coverage on HDTV was the best I've ever seen: they'd pick three events each day, and cover each for four hours, then repeat the broadcasts twelve hours later. No bias towards coverage of American athletes, and no "human interest" crap.
  • So can I assume that with DRM protection I won't be able to view it on linux?
    • Yes, that's a valid assumption. It should be obvious to everyone by now that DRM is more about platform lock-in than really keeping pirates at bay.

      This is what really scares me about DRM, tiered internet, and pretty much every other tech-related control scheme we've been reading about lately. In the end, it's about making sure you have a "trusted" software/hardware platform. So much for Linux tech hobbyists like myself. You want to write your own PVR? Illegal. Convert video content that you bought to
      • They could use a serious, multiplatform media solution like Real (Helix) Server and broadcast happily with DRM. At least it has clients for all platforms.

        You may not like DRM but compatibility is not the issue here. Mplayer etc. are third party hacks. Windows Media for Mac never worked right (in full function, plugin etc), so the format "hates" anyone not using windows.

        If they used Real format, they could even stream/make money from Cell Phones and PDAs, their loss... I hope the sponsor money from Intel and
      • Of course, they should all be assimilated as quickly and painlessly as possible. There is a running joke amongs my friends. I started off as a Windows admin and quickly got side tracked by Linux. Since we refer to Microsoft as the Borg Collective and have since the late 80's when the episode first aired. When Seven of Nine was introduced, it quickly became a nickname since I, too, had escaped the collective. Another friend of mine is a Microsoft Certified Trainer, and her nickname is Borg Queen, since s
  • It should be noted that the gold medal game will also be broadcast by the main NBC network live at 8am ET to affiliates in the Eastern and Central time zones. The game will be seen at 8am local time in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.

    99% of the TVs in America has access to an NBC affiliate, and this web stream is designed not to be viewable outside the USA, so it's kinda questionable just who this stream is aimed at. West coasters who can't wait out a three hour tape delay and want to see the game at 5a
    • I don't watch the olympics because I don't have cable and can't watch the coverage live. It feels like bullshit having NBC package up stories and events, complete with the backgrounds of the athletes, when they already know full-well who actually won. They expect me to watch their stories set to swooning music, and then see that athlete lose, even though that happened 5 to 12 hours ago. The worst as I remember it was in Sydney and Nagano when the coverage was tape delayed on the west coast about 18 hours
    • 99% of the TVs in America has access to an NBC affiliate, and this web stream is designed not to be viewable outside the USA, so it's kinda questionable just who this stream is aimed at. West coasters who can't wait out a three hour tape delay and want to see the game at 5am PT? People who have an office job who are working at 8am ET on a Sunday morning?

      NBC is hoping to double their ratings by reaching the other eight people interested in watching...

  • Two years ago the online radio stations I normally listen to (Dutch Radio 1 and Australian ABC Radio National / News Radio) went off-line during the Olympics because the news reports on it contained news and snippets of the Olypmic games and weren't allowed to be broadcasted outside the country itself and thus were turned off.

    This year, Olympic games again and I'm still listening to the three stations mentioned earlier. Is this a change of policy of the Olympic council or doesn't it matter too much for the
  • by Clockwurk (577966) * on Saturday February 25, 2006 @10:02PM (#14802306) Homepage
    And its no surprise since they have exclusive broadcast rights in the US. Rather than show most of the events, they hand pick a small few where the US is supposed to win and then cover them. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd much rather watch the biathlon or curling or x-country skiing than sit through another "spirit of the games" hype session (this olympian has battled through cancer, loss of family, broken leg, blah blah blah). Every olympian works hard and overcomes personal obstacles on their way to the games, its nothing special.

    Snowboarding and freestyle skiing shouldn't be olympic sports; save that shit for the x-games. When I'm watching the Olympic games, I should never hear a commentator say "he got sick air on that phat run".

    The only thing that has made these games less than absolute shit is the fact that I get CBC (hoser tv), and they actually cover the games, not the hype (Bode Miller needs to change his name to Sir Chokesalot)
    • NBC proper didn't cover curling at all, but on cable USA covered live in early mornings just about as many early round matches as possible, while CNBC had a daily 5pm ET three-hour block that was dedicated entirely to curling... showing most of the Team USA matches and selected other matches.

      Bottom line: Every event in the Olympics got TV coverage, you just needed to know which one of NBC's cable networks to look on.
    • And the reason is simple: Disney could use ESPN, ESPN2, likely ABC Family Channel and possibly ESPN Classic channel to cover Olympic events live around the clock without interfering with normal ABC programming, so that ABC doesn't lose the profitable daytime soap opera programs. This will allow ABC to show a nightly compilation highlights program during prime time that is three hours long.
      • I'd love it too. But you see, the Olympics want broadcast, over-the-air exposure. Nevermind that ESPN and ESPN2 are both available in roughly 90 million households in the US.

        But I could definately ESPN Classic, perhaps even ESPNU (lots of college athletes in the games). Perhaps the biggest improvement for olympic coverage would be using ESPN Deportes (not that I speak spanish, but I think it would be a great move).

        Don't forget regular highlights/updates on ESPN News

        Not to mention, you'd get thre
        • But you see, the Olympics want broadcast, over-the-air exposure.

          I think that's true in the past, but with most of the USA having access to cable TV and/or small-dish satellite TV, the IOC will probably allow far more live programming on cable stations than in the past. With my suggested scenario, it would actually be quite good, especially since Disney will have access to ESPN's extensive studio and production facilities at Bristol, CT, probably the best facility of its type in the world.
    • Snowboarding and freestyle skiing shouldn't be olympic sports; save that shit for the x-games. When I'm watching the Olympic games, I should never hear a commentator say "he got sick air on that phat run". Let me guess, bobsledding and skeleton is a real sport? Freestyle skiing is very difficult and strenuous. It's in the olympics for a reason.
    • Snowboarding and freestyle skiing shouldn't be olympic sports; save that shit for the x-games.
      I agree that "artistic" sports seem to be a bit of an oxymoron. But how can you single out those two and not mention ice dancing? That'd be first to go if I were choosing. Besides, the snowboard cross has (IMO) been one of the most interesting sports at the Games.
  • and with the absolutely brilliant performance of the american hockey team this year; they might actually get a half-dozen hits on their stream. ebersol himself could host the stream on his home broadband connection and still have the pipe left to seed the latest survivor episode.
  • NBC does. I've got Sweden 3-1.
  • Good grief. When's the last time anyone saw a past olympic event that was more than a 3 second blip on a prepackaged news blip. And they're worried about DRM here? Let's be clear. They are going to show the event for a day. Some people will watch it, most won't and almost everyone will NEVER SEE IT AGAIN. Wow, there's a lot of repeat business in that brilliant model!

    They don't have a clue about today's internet culture. You think they would have caught on last time, but obviously they are still clueless.
    • I saw about 10 hockey games live, about as many curling matches, some cross country and biathalon in the morning, and some other live events on the weekend.

      Maybe they are preparing for 2008 and 2010. Streaming video seems almost ready for real use after years and years of promises it was on the cusp. Since most of the events are of niche interest and they need the primetime nuggets to manufacture ad revenue, streaming video might be the answer to real olympic coverage in a couple years.
      • Re:NBC ya (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Basehart (633304)
        "Maybe they are preparing for 2008 and 2010. Streaming video seems almost ready for real use after years and years of promises it was on the cusp...."

        After watching Speed TV slowly turn into NASCAR TV I'm hoping motor sports promoters soon realize the only way they can get through to audiences in the USA is online.

        Dakar, WRC and numerous other local, national and international motor sports events have been dropped from Speed TV's scheduling in favor of reality TV style chop shop and street drag racing
        • You know, with as many channels as we have, there is no excuse for the lack of sports coverage that we have. I understand that the IOC sold NBC the exclusive rights to the olympics seemingly forever, so in my opinion, it's almost a lost cause in the US. However, the fact that we cannot get reasonable international sports coverage is beyond my comprehension. We shouldn't just get soccer. We should be able to get everything from table tennis to Aussie rules football.

          How much would the rights to niche sports c
          • I don't know about TV, but I'd have thought getting the rights to re-broadcast international events on the web in the USA would be dirt cheap.

            All you'd need to do then is tap into the feed, set up a slick media management system and get some ad space.
        • http://revs.tv/ [revs.tv] isn't bad.
  • I'm kinda pissed that only US residents get to watch the feed, leaving my fellow Canadians out...

    But then again, Canada's out of the running - so I don't give a shit about the Olympics anymore. :P
    • Canada's out of the running

      They weren't really in the running, were they? It's a good thing we have women who can play hockey, eh?

    • Don't feel bad. As an American living in Canada I remember NBC's coverage and know first hand how much better olympic coverage is here than in the states. Someone a few posts above was moaning about how NBC has all this hype and half-hour specials detailing some atheltes life and blah blah blah ad nauseum instead of showing the sports. And it made me glad that I'm here to enjoy this year's olympics. We aren't missing anything.
    • Errr, why not just tune in to CBC on the ol' fashioned TV? Personally I would rather have the Canadian than American coverage.
  • For the benefit of people who come accross this article in a search, you might want to notice that the /. article posted immediately before this one [slashdot.org] estimates that Akamai can only handle 150,000 streams at a time.

    Put these two articles together: and you come to the conclusion that Internet streaming just isn't ready for prime time. TV will always be more easily moved over broadcast technology, not something that has the overhead of IP.
    • estimates that Akamai can only handle 150,000 streams at a time

      Google has been trying to support the Tour of California by streaming video coverage of the race. They apparently had 60,000 people trying to watch on the first day (according to the on-line text commentary), many of whom (including me) spent a lot of time looking at a window that said "buffering...". It sounded like they added capacity the next days, but I still mostly got "buffering", and occasional video for a few seconds at a time, followe
    • But the replies to the story pretty much prove that 15k is WAY too low of a guess.

      It works out to 15 streams per server (or somewhere around there).
    • estimates that Akamai can only handle 150,000 streams at a time

      They'll have bandwidth to spare considering how the Olympics are tanking in the ratings this year!
    • Well... sure... I agree with current infrastructure... But... If we could live in a dream world... There is still the experimental (for life??) multicast network... It was created to solve these problems. But it's been experimental for....... If companies were to push for it. It could work and solve all the problems.

      Thoughts on this or am I wrong?
  • DRM means that I won't be able to watch it in Linux, right? I hate DRM.
  • Given that those things aren't made of actual gold anymore, perhaps this is more of a Freudian slip than a typo?
  • well now that it's been posted to slashdot it will be even more interesting..hmm..
  • 1. STOP MIXING EVENTS! I want to watch downhill skiing and I don't care about hockey! (I do but that's besides the point). I want to be able to watch a single competition and I want to know when it will start and when it will end. I don't want to have them mix everything together! I have to tape all of this and then watch all this stuff! 2. They have NBC, CNBC, MSNBC and USA. Three out of the four can be used to broadcast olympic events 24/7. So you set appart time slots on each channel for each sport and
  • I guess I'd better get crackin'...get it? C'mon LAUGH! All I need is a proxy up in the states...right? That's how my friends get DirecTV. They just bill it to an American address and bring the box down here. It might not be legal, but everybody gets paid, anything else is irrelevent.
  • by presarioD (771260) on Saturday February 25, 2006 @10:38PM (#14802388)
    1. Enable proxy
    2. mplayer -dumpfile Olympics.wmv -dumpstream -playlist "http://NBC.sucks/Olympics-DRMed-don't touch-Americans only.wmv"
  • What I want to know is what format this video stream will be in. For the other Olympic videos on NBC's site, you MUST have a PC with Windows Media Player to be able to watch them. I know that there is an OSX version of WMP, but it apperently can't play the videos on NBC's site.

    I think that is ridiculous. They should at least have an alternate format for the rest of us.

    • Please just conform and buy a Windows PC. Stop trying to be different. You want to consume all this media like a good citizen, right? You need a platform we trust.
    • Ahem, bad news...

      "Video Support
      NBCOlympics.com video can be viewed in Windows Media Player 6 or higher on a PC.

      Playlist Support
      The playlist auto advance functionality is supported in Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher for Windows. It is not supported on a Mac."

      Good news is, I suspect even if Akamai network can handle that crap named "windows media server", also as windows media backwards format does not have "fallback support" like Real or Quicktime does, a nightmare for clients is on the way.

      Funny is, I suspe
    • I think that is ridiculous. They should at least have an alternate format for the rest of us.

      I know. This just pisses me off. About a week before the games started Flip4Mac was working. I played a couple clips and it worked. Then the day the games actually start they break it and we haven't had coverage since. And NBC goes to great lengths to not list any ways to contact them to complain about this either. Fuck NBC.

  • /side rant
    The silver medal game was on TV today at 2pm eastern.
    Could they not schedule the gold medal game either later today or later tomorrow? Not liking the 8am start. /side rant

    The streaming is something they should have been doing for the entire Olympic Games, instead of this one hockey game. It would have been nice to catch some of the games from the comfort of my desk at work.

    Do they really think that many people in the US are going to be interested in Finland vs Sweden? The only ones that are would
  • BBC (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mr_tommy (619972) * <tgraham&gmail,com> on Saturday February 25, 2006 @10:52PM (#14802434) Journal
    Don't the BBC do this.... daily? And not just for the Olympics?!
    • Re:BBC (Score:3, Funny)

      by cdrudge (68377) *
      Excuse me. This is an American-centric forum. Please don't bring up irrelevant facts that others have been doing this for some time now.
    • No, the BBC don't do this. There's no DRM on their olympic streams - I've been watching it for the last two weeks on my linux box without any problems. With a choice of up to four different streams, so I can choose which events to watch as well.
  • Too bad we don't get to see a US vs Canada match. Those are always exciting. Ah well, the Fins definately deserve to win this one. They don't have four lines of superstars like Canada, but they play amazingly well as a team.
  • anyone else? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SuperBanana (662181) on Saturday February 25, 2006 @11:20PM (#14802482)
    The video stream will have DRM and IP protection to attempt to limit access to residents of the US

    Raise your hand if you're:

    • Tired of the location Olympic games being picked based on a bribe-fest (with your tax dollars as the ante money)
    • Tired of your tax dollars going towards facilities that most often are never used again
    • Tired of being shown only the most 'marketable' events or not seeing them at all, because only one news source is granted "rights"
    • Tired of the drama
    • Tired of people who happen to be good at a particular sport getting acts of congress to instantly give them citizenship while hard-working, tax-paying greencarders have to wait years and pass exams
    • Tired of the olympic committee getting special legislation to protect its interests and giving it the ability to shut down businesses simply because they contain the word "olympic" in their title
    • Tired of the drug scandals and an IOC obviously looking the other way, like virtually every other major sports sanctioning body
    • Tired of "for the sport" or "for the joy of competition" having turned into "for the money", right down to the recent decision by the IOC to allow athletes to be paid endorsements and more

    The list goes on...and don't get me started about the sex-fests that go on in the olympic "village" [scotsman.com]; ever wonder why the media isn't allowed in? It's for "privacy" all right...

    Used to be that when the olympics came on in the winter, we'd fire up the TV, make popcorn, and watch. We stopped watching right around the same time they started doing 10 minute long fluff pieces about athletes, instead of just showing us the damn competitions.

    • I'm just tired of all the whining about the Olympics!

      Frankly, I don't think NBC has done near as many "athlete profile" pieces as they've done in the past, and have done a better job at showing more events in a given evening. If you really want your curling fix, try USA, MSNBC, or CNBC. And the IOC has probably done a good a job as any sports organization of taking a hard line on doping and drug use by athletes.

      I'll be up bright and early tomorrow morning for the Sweden/Finland hockey final, which should
    • The list goes on...and don't get me started about the sex-fests that go on in the olympic "village"; ever wonder why the media isn't allowed in? It's for "privacy" all right...

      Well, sure. All athletes who do a lot of aerobic activity are more likely to have higher sexual energy. Swimmers and rowers are among the top. Plus, they are practicing (and therefore unavailable for a date/relationship) up 16 hours of the day, why can't they have their fun?
    • Re:anyone else? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by freeweed (309734)
      Tired of your tax dollars going towards facilities that most often are never used again

      Can't argue with the rest of your rant, but rest assured that Olympics facilities very often are used again - at least in places that care.

      Calgary's '88 winter Olys left us with some amazing facilities, which have directly lead to Canada doing better each time since. We're looking at a record haul, much of which can be attributed to having a world-class speed skating oval here. Canadian athletes used to have to go oversea
      • Canadian athletes used to have to go overseas to train for a lot of winter events.

        You've got to be kidding...

        This is Canada we're talking about here, right... not some African country? Canada, right up at the artic circle, where most of the country is below freezing for 9 months out of the year?

        I'm at a complete loss as to why Canada didn't have any appropriate venues before 88. Hosing down the floor of any old wherehouse will give you an ice rink for free. Canada, where hockey reigns supreme, couldn't

        • Canada, where hockey reigns supreme, couldn't find a single ice rink, appropriate for speed-skaters to practice on, in the entire country?

          Hockey rinks are of vastly different dimensions than a (long-track, at least) speed skating oval. An NHL rink is 200 feet long and 85 feet wide, giving a perimeter of 570 feet or 173m (ignoring rounded corners, so the true length is shorter). Long-track speed skating tracks are 400m. For this reason it is rare to find indoor speed skating ovals; I believe Calgary was
          • Short track takes place on an international-sized hockey rink (30x60m). An NHL rink (like most in Canada and the US) is much narrower and simply wouldn't work.

            Calgary currently has the only bobsled run in Canada. Before it, Canadians had to train at Lake Placid (which is still closer to most Canadians than Calgary is). I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Calgary has the only ski jumps in Canada too.

            So, yes, before the Calgary Olympic facilities many Canadians had to leave the country to practice for the Ol
            • Calgary currently has the only bobsled run in Canada. Before it, Canadians had to train at Lake Placid

              And if I recall correctly Lake Placid has one of only two bobsled runs in the US, the other being near Salt Lake City of course. So they're clearly not exactly a hot commidity.

              In Georgia, they built an artificial river rapids for the kayaking events.

              Actually the '96 events were on a natural river (the Ocoee) that was artificially "enhanced" [gorp.com], so it wasn't completely artificial. Northern Georgia an
        • You've got to be kidding. The design of a speed skating oval and the quality of the ice is an absolute science. The design of Calgary's speedskating oval was a massive engineering accomplishment, and a huge revolution. It was the fastest ice in the world. Until Salt Lake's facility was built, almost all of the world records had been set in Calgary. Salt Lake copied and improved upon the design, even employing the same engineers to design it I believe. I unfortunately have no knowledge about the oval in Tori
    • The list goes on...and don't get me started about the sex-fests that go on in the olympic "village" [scotsman.com]; ever wonder why the media isn't allowed in? It's for "privacy" all right

      Why do you care if they're having sex? Rumor has it that famous good-looking athletic people do that quite often.

    • The list goes on...and don't get me started about the sex-fests that go on in the olympic "village"; ever wonder why the media isn't allowed in? It's for "privacy" all right...

      And exactly what is wrong with this? If a bunch of young adults get together and fuck each other there's nothing wrong with that. No one's being forced to do anything; no one gets hurt. Athletes deserve privacy, too.

      There's another place where young adults are packed in together, where a list of every person in available, whe
    • the sex-fests that go on in the olympic "village"

      It takes a village to raise a child.

      Or at least to conceive one.

    • Okay, I'll admit I don't like the special legislation stuff.

      But the rest I think you're just wrong on or else I don't agree.

      The olympic committee is not turning the other way on drugs. I have to say, they're having trouble catching people, but ask the director in any sport, they know there are "designer steroids" out there now and they haven't figured out how to catch them yet. There also is tons of red blood cell packing (likely via EPO), but how are you going to catch those people? Having red blood cells
    • I agree. Quite simply, I think it's time for the Olympics to take another 2,000 year hiatus. It's all far too commercialized, and all about money now. The original spirit of the games has been lost.
  • Free streaming (Score:3, Informative)

    by deltagreen (522610) on Saturday February 25, 2006 @11:21PM (#14802484) Homepage
    Dutch television has free streaming at http://www.nos.nl/gfx/winterspelen2006/live/index. html [www.nos.nl]. Not hard to figure out the schedule below either, even if you don't speak dutch.
  • What's stopping people from watching this on the TV? Wouldn't that be more convenient and higher quality than some web stream? Myself I hope Sweden wins as I am a Swede, but Finlands team has seemed awfully good this year, so it will be a tough match. I guess there are some people without access to TV but having access to a computer. But those are likely at work and shouldn't be watching the game anyway ;)
  • It's Finland vs. Sweden. I can't imagine too many people will watch this one. Let me put it this way, I'd bet that the Victoria's Secret stream will have had more viewers.

    If only it was Canada vs. USA...
  • Who watches Olympic hockey?
  • I wish I could win a gold metal. Nowadays they only give out gold plastic.
  • Alot of grief being given to NBC about their broadcast, but I'd point out that I was really impressed by the High Definition Simulcast this year. They seem to have solved some technical issues that their HD broadcasts had been plauged with in the past. There used to be some excess compression in their video feed, probably cuased by bandwidth limitations somewhere, but the Olympics broadcast looked spectacular.

    Of course NBC is still broadcasting in 1080i instead of 720p. The interlaced broadcast certai
  • I think this is one of the channels that I get on MobiTV for my Palm Pilot. Of course, the stream is all proprietary, I'm sure, and can't be saved anyhow through the provided app.

    BTW... TV channels on Palm hand-helds over Wi-Fi. I can't say it is useful, but it is cool.
  • Just once, just *once*, just for the *sheer novelty*, I'd like to see an actual streaming video website that's nice and usable in Firefox in Linux.

    Inexplicably, websites with streaming video also seem to be the ones that are badly-tested IE-specific "applications" with masses of Javascript and everything else you can think of, instead of just websites with a "video" link. They're making money off ads here. What possible benefit can it be to them to make it miserable for everyone else?

    The only think I can
  • The rest of the media is reporting the Swedes won.

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