Ubuntu Linux Eyes Gadget Apps 63
An anonymous reader writes "Three developers have launched a project to turn Ubuntu into an embedded Linux distribution, according to a story on LinuxDevices.com. The resulting "EmbeddedUbuntu" OS aims to simplify the creation of embedded software for gadgets such as mobile phones, PDAs, and web tablets, and provide their owners with easier access to sophisticated open source desktop applications, such as multimedia streaming software. What do you think: will they call the mobile version Mobuntu?"
Re:Who? (Score:1)
Official (Score:4, Informative)
It appears to be an official Ubuntu project:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmbeddedUbuntu [ubuntu.com]
Ubuntu vs. Debian (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Ubuntu vs. Debian (Score:2)
That was my first reaction, too. My second thought was that I sure wouldn't say no to having the Ubuntu polish on the likes of the sad-excuse-for-a-pda that is the Zaurus Linux-based PDAs. If anyone can do it in the community now out of these existing distros, I'd put my money on Ubuntu
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Ubuntu? Why? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:3, Interesting)
At home, I run my Breezy as a normal user (I'm the only one on that machine), and I've never had to resort to the root user. 'sudo' _is_ enough for all your tasks, or if you prefer GUI password box 'gksudo'.
I don't understand why peopl gripe about this structure.. on the one hand they scream at the tops of their lungs t
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:1)
With what? I fail to see how your rant about the lack of a root user has any relevance to the parent post about system stability.
Ubuntu uses sudo instead of an explicit root. So does OS X. It's designed as a security measure so that users don't have to remember their own password and the root password. Or worse, permanently login to their machines as root and expose themselves to security concerns.
To avoid prepending sudo to each command, you could always start a "root shell" wi
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:2)
so if you've got any sense, then you create the first user as something like "admin" and give it a sensible password, then give your normal users their logins as required. If someone has to have sudo access, then you can give it to them otherwise, you switch user to "admin" and do the admin task
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At least I can then log in as root should I need to...
Sometimes sudo just doesn't cut it, I've found. It's rare, but it happens.
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Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:3, Informative)
I whole heartedly agree. Nothing was more irritating to me than to install Kubuntu ( the 'Breezy Badger' distro ) than to find out that I couldn't graphically interface as root, even though it would prompt me with the *psudeo*-root password.
Why didn't you just run "sudo passwd root" and edit your kdmrc to enable root logins if you felt the need for a graphical login?
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:1)
Your advice is way too complex for any regular user.
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:2)
I don't believe gp was login in, it's the gksudo equilevant in kde that doesn't work. I've had the same problem with gksudo.
Perhaps, but he also stated the cli was crippled.
Your advice is way too complex for any regular user.
He said he wanted to be root, not a regular user.
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:1)
>Perhaps, but he also stated the cli was crippled.
So? He was talking about different things.
>> Your advice is way too complex for any regular user.
> He said he wanted to be root, not a regular user.
Regular as in average joe, not in as joe$. Most regular users run their own machines so they have to be root sometimes.
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:2)
>> He said he wanted to be root, not a regular user.
> Regular as in average joe, not in as joe$. Most regular users run their own machines so they have to be > root sometimes.
I'd guess his point was that if you want to use ubuntu as an average joe, you can get by perfectly with sudo. Indeed, I did and I could. If you really want to unleash the power of root, well, be prepared to do a bit of work.
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:2)
I'd guess his point was that if you want to use ubuntu as an average joe, you can get by perfectly with sudo. Indeed, I did and I could. If you really want to unleash the power of root, well, be prepared to do a bit of work.
Exactly. I've only played a little with Kubuntu but even in Gentoo I find it very rare to actually need to login as root for anything.
Deserving... (Score:2)
Seriously, if you can't grok something that simple, stay on the "not root" zone the most time you can, please.
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:1)
The only reason why I can see them using Ubuntu is the fact that you can have it do a very minimum install. The "server" install of ubuntu doesn't install anything unless you tell it to. In theory, you can do a whole install, and have a machine lacking such normal apps like make or sshd. Compare this to Fedora which is at the bare minimum a 5 CD distro due to how they
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:1)
Do you have any idea what portage is? I'll give you a big hint. Fedora doesn't have it. Neither does Ubuntu.
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Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:1)
Which is why I referred to it as a proper name, yeah? (I'm typing on a Gentoo box right now, btw) Regardless of which, it's wrong. You don't refer to all small cars as Sentras, do you?
When Gentoo's been around as long as Kleenex, then you can make the argument that it's a genericized trademark.
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:1)
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Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:2)
When I installed most of my systems with Debian Sarge, I used the Net Install disc. I forgot the actual size of the
Re:Ubuntu? Why? (Score:2)
http://phil.cryer.us/ubuntu/ [cryer.us]
Geyes (Score:1)
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Huh? (Score:3, Insightful)
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Maybe it's not huge, but it's a hell of a lot more newsworthy than bullshit like sore thumbs and useless uses of brainscans.
Ubuntu derivative naming (Score:1, Funny)
I want to create a really screwed up version of Ubuntu so I can call it "FUBARuntu".
Hopefully it's not brown (Score:1, Insightful)
Not racist, but (Score:3, Interesting)
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When you're greeted with your desktop for the first time they've determined that "clouds and trees and bunnies" are more pleasing to people than a bunch of cogs, dark oily substances, and coffee.
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What I'm surpised is that mice made from wood, or covered in leather or some other natural material haven't caught on. Makers of high end automobiles often have wood shift knobs, or cover their plastic knobs with leather (which to extend the joke running in another thread might appeal to the Mac crowd). Not having to to
Re:Hopefully it's not brown (Score:4, Interesting)
Contrasting color combinations are attention getting and suggest fun. Saturated colors have the same effect. Think the baby isle of the toy store with its bright blues, reds and yellows. Adjacent, analagous color combinations, or tints and shades of the same color, suggest subtlety.
Decoding this, the typical Microsoft look is cool (as in temperature) and saturated, it is meant to be attention grabbing and suggest ease of use and fun, but it not so much fun and ease of use we are in Playskool territory. The Ubuntu look, in dark earth tints, suggests warmth, subtlety, and power, but not one that intrudes on the user's attention. It is a kind of power at rest. Perhaps a kind of latent power that the knowledgeable user can draw on. Now we know where Radagast got himself to, I guess. He works for Ubuntu.
My boss and I have frequent disagreements over color choices. He favors what to my eye are garish, oversaturated triadic color schemes. As a sales guy, getting attention is what he thinks of all day; however I believe that this Playskool look is tiresome for the users. I prefer neutral tones, shaded of gray, perhaps with subtle blue shades mixed in, although in truth I rather like a look of old, brownish red gall ink on parchment. My main motivation however is not aesthetic. I want background things to be readily seen, and when I choose a bright blue or red I want it to stand out. Too many bright colors produces visual confusion; you can see the background details but you eye is drawn aay from them; the foreground details are lost.
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Too ressource-hungry... (Score:4, Interesting)
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Um (Score:2)
Maria and her class mates of a primary school need to make up a report on how to protect the environment of dolphins, digitally recorded by them. They ask assistance from Jeff who selects a suitable subset of Ubuntu applications. He then generates an Embedded Ubuntu system image for the Internet Tablets they have and flashes it on the devices. The kids use Gstreamer, for example, and through WiFi conne
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