UK Government Confiscates Firefox CDs 540
Alsee writes "The idea that Free Software can be sold has some government officials perplexed. Times Online has the story. A UK Trading Standards officer contacted the Mozilla Foundation to report catching a business selling copies of Firefox. The organization confiscated the CDs with the intent to prosecute said business. When informed that such distribution was authorized, the officer first expressed disbelief that Free Software could be sold then said 'If Mozilla permit the sale of copied versions of its software, it makes it virtually impossible for us, from a practical point of view, to enforce UK anti-piracy legislation'."
Licenses (Score:5, Informative)
As Section 3.5 states: Do not confuse the MPL with the GPL, folks. Well, Mozilla falls under the MPL. I'm not sure any other software falls under this license. For that reason, anyone distributing software that falls under other licenses should be investigated. I'm not sure how people distributing Mozilla legally at a charge prohibits you from arresting people who are distributing copyrighted software which they made their own copies of.
submitter: RTFA (Score:5, Informative)
The blurb is highly misleading. No CDs were confiscated. Rather, the officer did the right thing: upon uncountering the "suspicious" distributor, he first contacted the copyright owner (the Mozilla Foundation) to ask what gives. In particular, no confiscated CDs had to be returned.
As another poster above points out, the Trading Standards Office should have been able to figure this out by reading the license, but you cannot fault them for going to the people who licensed the software initialy.
Re:Licenses (Score:5, Informative)
In that respect, it's no different than the MPL or the multitude of similar open source licenses ou there.
At least she followed procedure (Score:3, Informative)
At least she tried to confirm this before running out to arrest people. She may not understand WHY she has to confirm a violation of the licensing agreement... but the fact that she followed the procedure indicates that we aren't all about to be raided for having "pirated" copies of Firefox on our computers.
There is certainly no shortage of dense people in the world. But that's why we have procedures... we say "do this! this way!" And they do... even if it makes them incredulous. Bravo standards-bearers! Bravo.
Re:Licenses (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Licenses (Score:5, Informative)
If they were distributing a different browser and calling it Mozilla or Firefox then they'd run afoul of trademark law. What's at issue here is copyright, which is added to by the MPL that explicitly allows for copying.
The fact that the cops can't comprehend what's allowed via the MPL is humorous, as is their failure to understand how it relates to copyright with no additional permissive license.
RMS will be delighted (Score:2, Informative)
Re:"If your software's free... (Score:2, Informative)
People have gotten in trouble for doing exactly this.
Re:eBay also did/does this to some extent (Score:3, Informative)
Yeah, now... Back then they were worried about getting sued out of their small business existance. Now they're worried about collecting as many listing, upgrade, and closing fees on every stupid-assed fraudulent, mis-categorized, or questionable item listing they can get people to pay for. They only pull auctions of burned things if it's from a company that can afford more lawyers than them now.... Essentially, they only pull pirated Microsoft stuff.
Re:submitter: RTFA (Score:5, Informative)
The other way arround happens also by the way. Some gpl software gets retagged by someone who thinks he can getaway with it. You cannot sell that one because you do not have a valid licence for the software. (even if you say you have. )
Re:What they mean to say is.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:This kind of logic... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Licenses (Score:1, Informative)
I think thats part of why Apple Records Vs. Apple Computer was such a big hubbub, they sued in the UK multiple times, under UK law which gives more rights to Apple to protect their Trademark. In the US Acme Auto Parts is going to have a hard time suing Acme Clothes Pins (unless they steal their logo or something).
not cops (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Licenses (Score:3, Informative)
It seems technically accurate, but it's somewhat misleading in this case since Mozilla has granted blanket permission for the trademark to be used when distributing unaltered copies of their software.
http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/poli
Re:Licenses (Score:2, Informative)
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