We Don't Need No Stinkin' Broadband 572
Ant writes "eMarketer has an article on The Yankee Group's analysis on why some Americans aren't feeling the broadband love. It was based on Ipsos Public Affairs. 45% of Americans say it's simply too expensive. 30% say that they just don't want it. 14% say they feel dial-up is adequate for their needs. Less than 10% are not able to get broadband access in their area. Five percent insist broadband is "too complicated". Another 5% aren't even sure why they don't have it..."
Broadband (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Broadband (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Broadband (Score:3, Funny)
45% say its too expensive? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:45% say its too expensive? (Score:5, Insightful)
Because it will be too deeply entrenched (Score:2, Interesting)
More and more companies will reach the point where it's almost impossible to get your business done without using the internet. How long will companies accept resumes on paper? How long will ba
Re:Because it will be too deeply entrenched (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, many jobs will require Internet access. Many jobs today require Internet access. But are you seriously going to tell me that day laborers or fast food restaurant workers are going to need access to the Internet in order to do their jobs?
"How long will banking without the internet be reasonable?"
Probably for a very long time. Unless banks can find a way to print money over the Internet, ATMs and physical banks will need to continue to exist.
"When will doing your taxes without it become impractical?"
Its not that hard to fill out a W-2 form. And even with tax programs, you are still going to need to enter the same information. If your taxes are a bit more complex, those programs are very useful, but not everyone is going to need that.
"any more than I can really comprehend people who don't use ATMs."
Well that just means you are not very good at comprehending other people's lifestyles.
45% may have to change at some point (Score:3, Insightful)
It might not be uninmaginable that there are people who don't need broadband access to you, but it could be to people trying to run a dialup ISP. Just like there will always be a market for albums recorded on audio cassette, but at some point no record label will care.
After a certain point, there are simply not enough subscriibers in an area to justify having a local access number in a t
Re:45% say its too expensive? (Score:5, Informative)
*Especially* outside the US broadband is more the norm than the exception since the late 1990's.
Some facts (based on Q3 2005 numbers):
80% of the South-Koreans have broadband, 75% of Hong Kong, 60% of Israel, 60% of Taiwan, ~57% of Singapore, 55% of The Netherlands, 53% of Monaco, 53% of Canada, 51% of Switzerland, and 50% of Denmark. (source: http://www.marketingfacts.nl/images/uploads/20060
The following is also interesting to see: http://www.marketingfacts.nl/images/uploads/per-c
Growth broadband in percentage first half year of 2005: http://www.marketingfacts.nl/images/uploads/europ
And Eastern Europe is very active right now revamping a lot of their telecommunication systems so that will mean that in the coming time their broadband penetration will soar as well.
Re:45% say its too expensive? (Score:4, Interesting)
The big difference between the US and most of the rest of the world (okay, EVERYPLACE I CAN THINK OF, but I don't want to make generalizations), is that in the US we have free local calling. That means that if you want to call your ISP downtown, you can be on 24/7 and it doesn't cost you a dime more on your phone bill.
This is not the case elsewhere.
This means that if you, for example, were living in Japan in 2000-2002 (as I was then, and as I am again now), your phone bill with dialup was $200/mo for enjoying the kind of net access you had in the US--and even then, that was disconnecting anytime you thought you'd be reading a page for a long time. When ADSL hit your area (okay, MY area), it represented a HUGE savings. Suddenly you could stay on all the time like you wanted for the low low fee of $50/mo.
So widespread broadband penetration here (Japan), and likely a lot of other places in the world, is due to the fact that it represents a HUGE cost savings over dialup. The fact that it's faster is a side benefit (and before anyone starts oohing and ahhing about my "24Mbps" connection--I get 3Mbps on a good day--it's all BS marketing, which the great NTT tech geeks to whom one can actually COMMUNICATE with about things of a technical nature, like their product, are all too ready to eye-rollingly admit).
So instead of saying "The US is behind in broadband," we probably should say "The US is WAY ahead in phone service!" Same thing with cellphones. The fact that in the US one can TALK on a cellphone and still eat every month is because Americans demand cheap voice communications and are used to getting it.
Re:45% say its too expensive? (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm not surprised Americans don't want broadband. (Score:3, Informative)
The problem with broadband for many Americans is that they don't see the advantage in it. Many Americans can afford to pay for many of the things that people in other countries might only be able to get by downloading them freely off the net. So, in a way Americans have blinders on with regards to the possibilities of the Internet.
An excellent, and I would even say profound, exampl
Re:45% say its too expensive? (Score:2)
I addition to that, all companies in the area where I
The inevitable killer app comment (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:The inevitable killer app comment (Score:2, Insightful)
In my case we had a dedicated phone line for dialup. In Australia they increased the price of monthly line rental to a point where switching to ADSL wasn't that much more expensive than line rental, call cost and ISP charges.
The fact that it's on 24/7 is a big plus. Even with what they call broadband in Australia it's feasible to share a connection over wireless (try that with 56K!)
So for me, dowmloads are quicker, certainly. For lower volum
Re:The inevitable killer app comment (Score:2, Insightful)
Open up email before going to bed, click on the URLs to save them, and go to sleep. Watch videos in the morning when drinking coffee.
I have cable internet, and while it's nice, I could get along just fine with dial-up for home use. If money gets tight, the
Re:The inevitable killer app comment (Score:5, Funny)
Pornography.
The biggest danger of broadband (Score:5, Insightful)
If you haven't had broadband yet and only dialup, upgrading doesn't seem necessary. But once you've experienced the speed of broadband and the convenience of not having to dial up and log in, you'll never want to go back.
Re:The biggest danger of broadband (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The biggest danger of broadband (Score:2)
So, having ditched real broadband and cable, I just don't miss it. That's as simple as it can be said. For a basic package, it'd be an extra $1000 per year. Honestly, the money isn't even that important, but anything that lures me to watch more TV and use the Internet even more would not make me happier.
So I'm curious... now tha
Re:The biggest danger of broadband (Score:2)
I have 8 mbit at the moment, but I hardly use a quarter of it, so I'm probably going to downgrade my connection. I download tv shows, but otherwise I don't really need it either.
Re:The biggest danger of broadband (Score:3, Insightful)
"If you haven't had broadband yet and only dialup, upgrading doesn't seem necessary."
I know it seems like that, but eventually you get to a point where dialup really doesn't cut it anymore. Waiting for that particular financial or banking site that you NEED to use for about 2 minutes (literally) to load starts to grate on your nerves eventually.
Re:The biggest danger of broadband (Score:2, Insightful)
If cable rates get too high, I'll dump them, and go back to dial-up, or just use my cell phone for occasional internet access (tethered to PC).
I've already dumped all of SBC's services, because they're a bunch of greedy bastards. My local cable company seems to "get it", and offers decent rates for their packages.
At any rate, I could survive just fine on dial-up. Last time I had it, it was a dial on demand setup for about twenty systems i
Re:The biggest danger of broadband (Score:4, Interesting)
I told them time after time that the map that took them 15 minutes to load would be nearly instant (comcast has 8mbit down here). One day thier modem finally kicked the bucket and I needed a new wireless switch/card so I made them a deal - purchase the one I want, try broadband for a month and if you do not like it I will buy the card/switch. At the end of the first day my father ask "Why didn't we ever use this before - I saved over an hour of time in *one* day!". Of course, I had to be that smart ass son and pointed out I've said that for about two years now
For them "price" would have been listed as a reason, though mostly because telling them how much faster doesn't make sense - for most it has to be something used and internally felt. I suspect that, as you said, the largest portion of those that say they don't need it would suddenly not be able to live without once they used it some. I've never driven a Ferrari and can't really imagine how it feels, many have never used broadband and can't raelly comprehend how much faster things happen.
Count me in the Expen$ive camp (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm still on dial-up, as I have been for the last 8 years (at this address.) I see offers come and go, but they still boil down to an eventual rate of about $50/mo. I only need that speed now and then and it's hard to justify.
It's about the same with me as it has been with cell phones. I've had those 3 different times and always cancelled because I was shelling $35+/month and using the phone for less than 10 minutes a month. Only when seeking a new job or apartment do they seem genuinely necessary. I've got a pay-as-you-go plan now and I used about 20 minutes a month for each of December and January, so this is much more to my liking of ~$10/month. For service.
I'd like high speed for downloading Microsoft's bloated patches (why are these things always 15 MB? for a "few" fixes?) or the latest virus scan patterns (again, why are these things 5-10 MB?) Seems there's always a hell of a lot more than seems necessary, but I suppose developers of today didn't grow up trying to maximize 8K and could care less how much shit is in things as it's not their problem. For the most part, I get by and that's all I need.
Re:Count me in the Expen$ive camp (Score:2)
Too expensive? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's all a matter of priorities. I'll bet that of those people not willing to pay $25 or $30 for entry-level broadband, a good portion of them spend $50, $60, or more on cable or satellite TV.
steve
Re:It's going to get worse and it's very expensive (Score:3, Interesting)
A basic phone in the US is probably $20. On top of that, basic dialup is $15. DSL is starting to dip down to $35. And around here, the cost of basic phone service is going to g
Why, back in my day! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Why, back in my day! (Score:2)
Re:Why, back in my day! (Score:2, Funny)
Luxury! We only had an abacus each, which we tried together with string!
Re:Why, back in my day! (Score:4, Funny)
Too expensive? (Score:3, Interesting)
We recently got DSL access to my house, and as soon as the option was there took it, since they were only letting a few households from the area on at the time. However, now that I'm out of the house, I think the only good thing about my family having DSL is the phone issue: otherwise, we have a lot of bandwidth going unused. But at least when my dad "screws up the internet," I can call and walk him through getting it working without having to hang up every time he wants to check to make sure it works.
We Don't Need No Stinkin' Broadband (Score:2)
Re:We Don't Need No Stinkin' Broadband (Score:2)
Yea, this sounds like a bad idea, doubly bad if the implants made by microsoft.
Re:We Don't Need No Stinkin' Broadband (Score:2)
Don't you mean doubleplusbad [google.com]?
Oops, our googlian masters have corrected me.
56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:4, Insightful)
Sites that work just fine at 56K:
The primary use of broadband is to deliver ads. At the consumer's expense. No wonder 30% of users don't want it.
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2, Insightful)
eBay is rather annoying, though, as when you need to login it can take a while because they keep accessing your cookies.
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2)
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:3, Informative)
Digital Versatile Disc (Score:3, Interesting)
Go ahead - try to send video of your newborn baby to your relatives across the country using 56k.
First step is using 56k to go to usps.com to look up shipping rates. Second step is using 56k to go to froogle.google.com to look up prices for DVD-R or DVD+R media. If it's that important, and getting broadband to your home would involve a $100,000 setup fee to move from the country to the city because of the real estate price difference, then mailing DVDs is cheaper than getting broadband to your home. If
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2, Insightful)
Internet radio is basically useless without broadband (128kbit mp3s, the standard, cannot be streamed on a 56k connection)
internet video is basically useless without broadband
uploading/downloading is horrible on dial-up, even stuff like windows patches or linux kernal updates can take hours
bittorrent? I don't think so
gaming? out of the question
dial-up is basically only useful for casual browsing and email/IM... You cannot really enjoy the net without it.. I'm glad I have my 10mbit cable connection e
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2)
> gaming? out of the question
This is actually reasonably OK on ISDN lines in Europe (at least for Quake).
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2, Insightful)
http://www.di.fm/ [www.di.fm]
Ah, 24kbit/s AAC streams, and they don't sound too bad.
Streamed ABC's video feeds during 9/11 over 56K modem link to a 32" TV in the conference room all day long. Had audio, even. Amazing what compression does these days.
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:3, Interesting)
As others have pointed out ad blockers work with broadband too.
If you play computer games, watch videos, download music you generally find dialup isn't usable to grab some of those huge files. A 600Mb game update or a 70Meg video clip isn't going to be 50% ads, even when you consider all the clicking you might need to do to grab it.
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2, Funny)
And porn. Porn and ads. Ads and porn.
The two main uses of broadband are to deliver ads and porn. And torrents of pirated videos. The *THREE* main uses of broadband are for copying torrents, watching porn, delivering ads, and shopping for geeky bargains on Newegg.
The four.. no, Our four... no, of the four... no... amongst the four.... no, amongst the primary uses of the internet are such elements as...
I'll come in again...
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2)
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:5, Funny)
Sites that work just fine at 56K:
* Google
* eBay
* Slashdot
* Fandango (movie tickets)
* FedEx
* Digi-Key
* Craigslist
* Yahoo
Only 8 sites? No wonder so many people are switching to broadband.
No graphics. (Score:2)
Re:56Kb/s isn't that bad if ads are blocked (Score:2)
Animated Gifs and Porn (Score:5, Funny)
Why so expensive? (Score:5, Interesting)
In Canada I get broadband and +70 TV channels for 80 looney Canadian dollars a month. Posters from other countries like Korea, Japan and some European countries have posted in the past about how, relative to U.S. rates, broadband cable is cheap in their respective countries.
So what's up south of the border?
Re:Why so expensive? (Score:3, Funny)
Free market! How dare you suggest we aren't getting the best of the best service! Why, I can get a cell phone plan in the States for $30/month + $10/month in extra fees. I go to Europe and they pay 10-Euros/month.
Those communist fools!
And someone slipped me a Canadian nickel today...
Re:Why so expensive? (Score:3, Interesting)
Generally the really expensive broadband stories come from people that live in small towns, which the US has a lot of. An amazing amount of people here live in small, rural communities. Well, usually there's not a lot of infastructure out there, so you end up needing something that's pretty expensive like IDS
Re:Why so expensive? (Score:3, Insightful)
Thats what, about $70 in US dollars? Thats about what it would cost around here. Thats a lot of money for some people.
Price drop (Score:5, Informative)
The only excuse now is if you travel a lot, and need access all across the country.
Re:Price drop (Score:2)
I have Comcast -- my biggest problem is the slow upload in our region. In some regions you can pay extra to have a higher upload rate. Since I regularly transfer files from my workstation to other internet hosts I really find the 300kbps upload to be atrociously slow.
Re:Price drop (Score:2)
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Re:Price drop (Score:2)
Verizon gives you 768 Kbps / 128 Kbps for $15/mo, which you can't possibly claim is anywhere near as good as even the best dial-up service. Not only bandwidth that's about 20X faster, but latency that is far, far, far lower.
Re:Price drop - BAD MODS! (Score:3, Insightful)
NO! That's completely UNTRUE. It's trivially easy to go to Verizon or SBC's website and verify this, so it's really ridiculous you got modded up for saying something so easily disproven. It is a 12-month commitment, but that's not a big deal.
I'm willing to bet you've never had DSL. Cable companies are fond of "renting" y
heh? (Score:2)
those must be the confused teenager!
and as regards to the high prices of net via cable, me and my friends play an evil game.. we live in 3 apartments and keep utilizing the Comcast promotional offer of $19.99/month for a semester, then change the address.. and then when the cycle repeats, we change the name of the person in that apartment.. the low price comes with little slow speed (sharing), still a good internet experience for the price we pay.. a
Re:heh? (Score:3, Funny)
Not any more.
BOFH ( comcast )
Hey, I remember this story! (Score:3, Funny)
Also: I don't know what all the bitching is about (from the old story): Even President Bush jumped into the fray last month, calling for affordable, universal high-speed access by 2007.
I mean he *CALLED* for it people, and it's just one year away.
My observation (Score:2, Interesting)
98% of people who want or have broadband don't need it. They check their email twice a week and/or look at weather or news sites once in awhile.
75% of people who *have* broadband assume everyone else does and sends email with attached 150mb video files of their kids' snowball fight, with 200 accumulated addresses in the CC field. They also average to circulate about 130 "FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:FUNNY!:FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:RE:HAH A!:FW
Re:My observation (Score:2)
While typing up my response, I was CVSup'ing my FreeBSD ports on this machine, and doing an apt-get dist upgrade on the k6-II next to me. Not to mention pulling down the latest headers in alt.binaries.multimedia.ero... oh..wait.. nm that...
Gotta love it.
That's because... (Score:2)
I try to ride the sign-up specials between DSL and Cable, but I don't blame most people for not wanting to put up with that.
A Practical View... (Score:3, Funny)
I Want My MTV (Score:2, Interesting)
Markets are driven by consumer demand, not by producer supply.
Websites no longer design/test for dialup users (Score:2, Insightful)
"Too complicated?" Must mean PPPoE or AOL (Score:3, Interesting)
People never get new-ish technology (Score:2)
I remember when microwaves first came out. My mother's friend said they were great. When asked what she did with it the friend said that she heated up coffee, cooked hot dogs, warmed up some food. My mother couldn't see how that would be useful for her. She doesn't drink coffe and the stove is just fine for the other two. Of course a couple years later after finally getting a microwave it has become an essential
I seem to remember the workday after thx giving... (Score:2, Insightful)
this tells me one thing - lots of people wont pay for a connection when they can get what they need done on somebody else's network...
Conclusions: (Score:5, Funny)
30% say that they just don't want it.
14% say they feel dial-up is adequate for their needs.
10% are not able to get broadband access in their area.
05% percent insist broadband is "too complicated".
05% aren't even sure why they don't have it..."
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109% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Re:Conclusions: (Score:3, Funny)
Being part of the problem (Score:3, Interesting)
Keeping your OS (at least Windows or Linux) up to date and patched pretty much *requires* broadband. I think that's the reason there are a lot of vulnerable machines out there.
I have asked several people who are still on dial-up how they keep their systems up to date, and every one of them has said that they "turned that damn update thing off!" because it was so annoying and made it impossible to do anything useful.
Unless you are geeky enough to care about patching and manage your limited dial-up bandwidth, you are not going to update over a dial-up.
When I was still on dial-up, I compared the cost of keeping a Debian system up to date over the dial-up to the cost of DSL, and it was a wash. That's what motivated me to get broadband, it cost the same as far as keeping my system updated, and I could use it for the rest of the month at no extra cost.
But most folks don't care about staying updated, so they see no need for broadband.
Like money (Score:3, Interesting)
If you've had access to a connection with real bandwidth - something like the 1Gbit connections you get in good university computer labs - then you know what the internet can really be like: every loads instantly, videos play with no buffering or delay, 10Mb downloads take a couple of seconds, latency for gaming hovers around 20ms, and so on. But if all you've had is Earthlink or AOL DSL (which is NOT always on, but instead basically dials up via PPPOE on demand), then you've never really experienced broadband at all.
Socialist approach (Score:3, Insightful)
I said over ten years ago that the most important thing that the US government could have done is to socialize the internet connectivity across the country the same way that they have socialized asphalt connectivity by means of Interstate highway systems circa 1930-1940.
Same kind of approach plays in with the Post Office. Everyone gets mail delivery no matter how remote or how dense the population. Not all mail is gauranteed delivered in 3 days but it's delivered.
I think we, as a nation, could have done well to take that stance that everyone will at least have a standardized connection to their homes such that everyone has the capability of getting a modest DSL like connection into their home for a fixed fee (with no trimmings) much like you have garbage collection fees or road maintenance fees from the local government.
What the individual decides to do after this, higher bandwidth, ISP services like portals and email.. can all be managed in the consumer market. But at least you have the road available.
This country experienced huge changes economically and socially as the result of the US Highway infrastructure. I believe that creating an analogy of an internet infrastructure would cause the same kind of impact on this nation. Right now we don't have such a mechanism. The growth of internet businesses and society is at a strangehold based on what you can afford to pay. It's economically restricted.
Hate to sound like a socialist, but sometimes I think there are some things that can be considered best if socialized.
Meanwhile in Japan (Score:4, Informative)
Maybe that has something to do with the fact that Japan was essentially reduced to mostly rubble 60 years ago while we in the U.S. deal with OSP that is both that age and has never been properly maintained.
But here is a good example of why most people don't get even DSL. I'll present two cases here, the first my own, the second that of a relative in the same state.
Verizon said that I was too far from the central office to get DSL. "That's funny" said I since I could basically throw rocks at the central office.
Did two go arounds on this until finally I got the bright idea to call repair and get them to do an MLT. Sure enough, MLT said I was less than half a mile from the CO. I asked repair to enter the distance into my customer record and then called Verizon DSL back. Lo and behold - I now qualified.
In my aunts case, the home had DSL before she bought it and the previous subscriber had the line disconnected. When my aunt tried to get DSL installed she was told by Verizon that they she was too far out. I told her to use the trick I'd discovered and sure enough, two weeks later she had here DSL.
I've since ditched Verizon entirely but this demonstrates that in the case of DSL, if you don't know how the system works, you're screwed.
Don't Forget The Confused (Score:3, Insightful)
What about the ones who think they have it but don't, and the ones who don't think they have it but do?
Re:Validity (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:30% (Score:5, Funny)
Old people.......have mod points too. Good luck.
Re:30% (Score:4, Funny)
Maybe they don't want to pay $25.00 a month (Plus the FUSF fee, plus the taxes at $49.99/month, plus some sales tax for some equipment which you never used) to have the ability to browse an Internet full of advertisements.
Back in my day, a cup of coffee cost $0.50. Now it costs $2.50 at Starbucks and they burn the fucking beans. $2.50 for burnt coffee? And you get the pleasure of standing in line for 10 minutes, because all of the other coffee shops shut down.
"It's burnt coffee at Starbucks, let's be honest about it [goodasgold.com]. If you get burnt coffee in a coffee shop, you call a cop. You say, "It's the bottom of the pot. I don't drink from the bottom of the pot. But when it's burnt at Starbucks, they say, "Oh, it's a blend. It's a blend." It's a special bean from Argentina....."
Re:30% (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:30% (Score:2, Funny)
Uh-huh and... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Expensive ??? (Score:4, Informative)
And not everybody is savvy or patient enough to get the $15/month plan.
I try to renew at $15/month , and the dumbass on the phone says I can only renew for $35/month. I call again, and I can renew for $25/month but only if it's the second tuesday of the month and my right foot wearing a shoe. What to non-techies do in this situation?
Inflated prices for urban real estate (Score:2)
[links to a DSL offer that's $30/mo after the promotional period] But isn't Dial Up close to that price?
NetZero or Netscape dial-up will run $10/mo to $15/mo. In addition, if you live in a rural or semirural area, you may have to move to an urban area in order to get DSL, and that means paying often inflated prices for urban real estate.
Re:Expensive ??? (Score:2, Informative)
http://home.shentel.net/DSL/cost.cfm [shentel.net]
It doesn't help that this one company runs the telephone, cable TV and internet access for the entire county, and they refuse to offer internet access via cable for faster speed.
Re:dial up really isn't that bad (Score:5, Funny)
Re:dial up really isn't that bad (Score:2)
Right now, according to computer, I'm connected at a BLAZING 26.4k. And its not the modem, its old wires in my apartment. And people would think it would be as simple as a call, but they ignore the blame game. The telco says its the apartments, and the apartments blame the telco. Meaning, in the real world, live with it.
DSL is out of the question here, too, since the line is so bad. Cable is too damn expensive, and my cable company (Cox I t
Re:Not too surprising... (Score:2)
Verizon's FiOS comes close to offering the bandwidth a residential (house) network can reasonable use.
Re:Their Choice I guess (Score:2, Insightful)
I agree. It's expensive no killer app like HD (Score:3, Insightful)
Blame BIG business and their conspiracy to kill munibroadband. Yes, real conspiracies do exist . FTTH should be everywhere but it's not because the cable and phone companies are cherry picking and they want to keep prices HIGH. No good to shareholders selling inexpensive broadband to poor areas. Might anger the people on the other side of town.
As long as Bush and republicans are wine and dined by these people it wont matter. There is no REAL com
Re:I agree. It's expensive no killer app like HD (Score:5, Insightful)
The U.S. is determined to make itself obsolete - and sooner rather than later! That's why the looting is so fast and furious these days. Eventually we'll end up just one more population of rioting people demanding economic parity like other third world labor countries are doing right now. Just watch how the U.S. becomes irrelevant during the next century thanks to our inability to innovate thanks to laws that favor the few against the many.
It's all about the price of labor, and driving that price down, down, down...
A lot of technology gets talked about on Slashdot is ultimately pinned to what some shmoe worker at Kwik-E-Mart can afford, and if s/he cannot afford it don't expect that technology to become ubiquitous.
Not always their choice (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I thought the States had cheap broadband? (Score:2)
Pricing like that is just completely silly. Using that 20Mbps, I'd reach my monthly quota in just over two hours.
Re:Broadband not enough. (Score:2)