Top Ten Open Source Projects 234
arclightfire writes "We recently wrote an article for The Independent listing the top ten open source projects. It was hard getting the list down to ten, but we did; here's the top ten - Wikipedia, Firefox, Open Office, Bittorrent, MediaWiki, Xvid, pbb, Outfoxed, dyne:bolic, GIMP, Apache and SourceForge." What would you call your favorite projects? Obviously, this list isn't strictly software projects, so be creative.
Erm (Score:3, Funny)
Slashdot of course :o)
Mod parent up! (Score:2)
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Re:Erm (Score:4, Funny)
It was hard getting the list down to ten, but we did; here's the top ten: *enumerating 12 items*
It was indeed pretty hard, so hard that the editor couldn't resist the temptation to slip 12 in there!
lol
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George Herriman's Krazy Kat [ignatzmouse.net]
Re:Erm (Score:2)
Not to mention a "sly declaration of new classic status slipped into a bunch of safe ones- very pussy."
Seriously, dyne:bolic and Outfoxed are two of the top 10 Open Source projects?
Not PHP, not Ubuntu... a multimedia studio live CD and a documentary about how much people hate fox news? Vury Schneaky!
Re:Erm (Score:3, Interesting)
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Ummmmmmm.....? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ummmmmmm.....? (Score:5, Informative)
The actual list (Score:3, Informative)
Both Wikipedia and MediaWiki is on the list.
Is open-source left with any meaning? (Score:2)
Re:Is open-source left with any meaning? (Score:2)
What is that supposed to mean in light of their picks for winners? It ma
Re:Ummmmmmm.....? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ummmmmmm.....? (Score:2)
(I'd mod you up, but I've already posted)
Re: Ummmmmmm.....? (Score:2)
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Re:Ummmmmmm.....? (Score:2)
Many phpBB users are switching away from phpBB to FUDForum [fudforum.org]. It's not as malleable, but you won't have to patch and pray every 3 or 4 days.
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Dyne:bolic (Score:2)
Re:Dyne:bolic (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Dyne:bolic (Score:2)
Too bad I've never gotten it to work properly on any of the HW I have tried it on. It boasts of being a sort of minimalists media distro capable of running on almost anything but it doesn't. I haven't been able to utilize it to any meaningful extent on hardware old or new. Really too bad. I would love it if it had lived up to it's claims...
Re:Top... (Score:2)
"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:3, Insightful)
How about All classical music? (not just western)
How about the SI metric standards?
Or the Human genome?
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:5, Funny)
Hm yes, let's change some of the texts in those books. I'm sure it'll go down well with the readers.
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2)
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:3, Informative)
Well, weren't they all the same project originally? St Paul forked the Torah, and then Mohammed did the same a few centuries later? They're still open-source, then.
Personally, I'd want someone to go in and fix some of the more dangerous exploits in the code. The bit about 'while I'm not around, kids, please obey my official representative, MR BLACK! I'll be coming along real soon now, but for now here's M
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2)
Dude, that's easy.. "Kill" is subjective, of course, just like the "fair use" clause in copyright law. And the subjectiveness is to be resolved by a "reasonable body". And of course, by reason, what we mean is "what could a judge get away with if he ruled one way
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2)
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:5, Interesting)
The Bible was not written in any one language originally, nor was it written by a single person. Anyone who makes that type of claim is severely deluded.
The Old Testament (Genesis through Malachi) was written in Hebrew, but not modern Hebrew. Some parts were written in a form of Hebrew that did not make use of vowels. Talk to an expert about this--my Hebrew is limited to recognizing the script and few historical notes.
The New Testament, before the Catholics compiled it, was written in a variety of languages, including both Greek and Aramaic (which is probably what Christ spoke). At some point the Catholic Church (Roman), decided that everything should be in Latin, and only distributed the scripture in that language. Various editions have been translated from both the Latin or from more ancient documents. Many of the documents that are out there are so far from the "original" that there is little, if any, hope of knowing exactly how they read.
Additionally, remember that even the oldest versions in existence today are both ancient and very likely copies (especially with the Old Testament), which means that they have been both translated and transscribed numerous times. So while I believe that the Bible is scripture, and that much of it (not all) was inspired by God, there is a strong need to be very careful in how one interprets the meanings.
Being a member of the LDS church, I have my own beliefs about what should be done to properly understand the Bible, but that opinion is even less popular than even believing in God in the first place (which in these parts can be a dangerous viewpoint).
As for being open source, that is out of the question. Public domain != open source. In the case of the Bible, the license (from the Man Himself) allows anyone to publish or distribute the work, but prohibits one from changing the source to help prevent bugs from creeping in. A lot folks have ignored this restriction, resulting in much chaos, but that's another story.
Hope this helped.
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:3, Informative)
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2)
In the case of the Bible, the license (from the Man Himself) allows anyone to publish or distribute the work...
The right to publish and distribute the Word of God, at least in translation, is one area where the laws of man supercede the laws of God.
The King James Version is still under copyright [baptistpillar.com] in England and in those areas of the Commonwealth that still respect the laws of Great Britian. In those countries the Bible can only be printed under license from Oxford and Cambridge, which administer the Crown
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2)
While your point is correct (the Old Testament wasn't written by a single writer, nor in a single period of time), your using the "form without vowels" argument isn't providing any strength to your point.
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2)
Darn it, you just made William Shatner appear in my mind's eye.
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2)
The
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Why don't you just say: "Being a mormon...".
"Mormon" is ambiguous since it can refer to various schismatic sects. According to an official press release [lds.org] of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
He appears to be well within preferr
Re:"this list isn't strictly software projects" (Score:2, Insightful)
I think you meant retranslated.
Whaa? (Score:2)
whom I think where still humans
You think!!? What the fuck else could they have been? Monkeys? lizzards? Angels?
And on top of that, you bash *niX OSs.
Classic makings of a troll. Very nicely done. Pay attention newbie moderators.
Re:Whaa? (Score:2)
Vulcans.
Best projects (Score:4, Informative)
Some that aren't in the list but I use regularly.
I suppose the kernel has got to feature in the list because without it a lot of other projects are fairly pointless. I like NetBeans (although it's giving me grief today). Amarok is pretty good (but is let down by the poor state of sound on Linux). KMail is very nice especially as part of Kontact. Synaptic is a very nice project that seems to be coming along well.
dyne:bolic? (Score:5, Insightful)
"Dyne:bolic is a multimedia studio on a CD that you simply pop into any computer and start it up, instantly turning it into a Linux/GNU [sic] system"
Why not Knoppix??? Granted, this is more specialised towards creative people, but it never figures on my top ten, whereas Knoppix would do.
Re: dyne:bolic? (Score:2, Informative)
with dyne:bolic, any PC becomes a multimedia production studio in a heartbeat (well, bootup, anyway), and you really can get to creating with it fast and easily
which isn't to say knoppix isn't cool
Re: dyne:bolic? (Score:3, Informative)
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Eclipse (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Eclipse (Score:3, Informative)
Well, although its just a JRE, I find that Eclipse runs fine using the blackdown JRE. I haven't developed using the blackdown sdk, but I'd consider running eclipse just fine at least one point in favor of blackdown's usabiliy as a Java environment.
Secondly, Eclipse is more than a Java IDE. It has so many damn plugins [eclipseplugincentral.com] it literally is a swiss army knife, albeit a bloat
Re:Eclipse (Score:2)
Re:Eclipse (Score:2)
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Re:Eclipse (Score:4, Informative)
Eclipse runs very nicely with GCJ thank you very much.
top twelve? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:top twelve? (Score:2)
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pbb? (Score:2, Funny)
In case, like me, you're wondering what on earth "pbb" is, let me spare you the searching:
"pbb" at Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] redirects to "Polybrominated biphenyls", with no disambiguation link.
"pbb" on Google [google.co.in] returns nothing remotely related to open source.
"pbb open source" on Google [google.co.in] returns phpBB [phpbb.com] at the top.
So why the zark does the summary say "pbb"?
GNU/Linux Foundation? (Score:4, Insightful)
BTW: Where the hell is LAMP in the top 10? Apache would be nothing without Perl, PHP, Phyton, MySQL or PostGresSQL.
Re:GNU/Linux Foundation? (Score:4, Insightful)
As to Apache being nothing without Perl, PHP, Python,... Apache was a good webserver long before LAMP took off. CGI doesn't have to be done in Perl or Python. Ruby, c, and even lisp have been used.
I think that list is pretty much worthless but to bash one project or an other is pretty pointless.
My list would inlcude.
gcc
bind
sendmail
apache
perl
Linux
MySql
BSD
OpenOffice
Firefox
gcc because so many open source programs use it.
Bind, sendmail. apache, perl Linux, and MySql because they really where the foundation of most of the Internet.
If you wanted a server back in the good old days and couldn't spend the money for a Sun or a VAX your choices where pretty much Linux or one of the BSDs. Did you know Yahoo used BSD for all it's servers. I don't know if they have moved to Linux or not. Microsoft used BSD code for the TCP/IP stack in Windows.
OpenOffice and Firefox because they are bringing open source to the masses.
There are many great OSS projects I did not put on my list. I use PostgresSQL everyday and I like it better than MySQL but it isn't as popular. Python, Ruby, and PHP are also great projects. GIMP and it GTK foundation are very important. Any of these could be somebody's top ten list. Bit Torrent is going to cause more grief for media companies than just about anything we can imagine. It isn't about the piracy. It is the lack of control. Somebody going to combine a good writer, good actors, BitTorrent, and a good business person and create a direct to internet runaway show. TiVO, Replay, or Apple will add it to it's listings and it will take off. No network or media company required. BitTorrent levels the playing field. Distribution becomes more or less free.
Outfoxed? Never heard of it before now but then documentaries about what I am actually doing are of little interest to me. I would rather live it than watch it.
What to know what I think may be the next huge open source project? GAIM. More people may end up using GAIM than OpenOffice.
Re:GNU/Linux Foundation? (Score:2)
Um, Linux? I don't think so. It's big NOW, which is a far cry from "foundation". We might have to get in to when the internet really formed, but I think that's a false statement on its face.
Re:GNU/Linux Foundation? (Score:2)
Re:GNU/Linux Foundation? (Score:2)
By the time I was a full time PHP developer (PHP/FI 2.0 had just moved to PHP3) I was tinkering with RedHat 4.2 in June of 1997 (which had a barely useable GUI)...RedHat 1.0 had come out in 1994. To put it in better perspective, Yahoo was a well known brand by 1995 (to those who had a web browser, not AOL users). For all of the problems with Linux at the time, BSD was always touted as the "solid" Free OS along with Solaris the "solid" corporate OS. That's just my pers
Re:GNU/Linux Foundation? (Score:2)
Re:GNU/Linux Foundation? (Score:2)
Are you kidding.
Websites with fully-static content existed for years, and still do. Please tell me you're not suggesting that EVERY web site has to have a scripting language and a SQL database running on the backend to be worth anything.
Linux huh? (Score:4, Insightful)
Oth, I didn't even recognize dyne:bolic without reading the description. And including Outfoxed, while they even admit it is not an OS project per se, shows they were just scrambling to find any 10 points to fill the list and space on their site. Clueless.
oblig. missing option (Score:2, Interesting)
My Favorite Free Software (Score:2)
GCC (Score:4, Insightful)
Strictly software... (Score:5, Informative)
Of course, number 11 is Google [google.com], Google [google.com], and Google [google.com]. But that's neither software nor open-source.
try wdiff (Score:2)
I'm glad to learn I'm not the only one that thinks wget is fantastic.
One util that I'll add that you might like is http://www.gnu.org/software/wdiff/wdiff.html [gnu.org]">GNU wdiff - a diff that's word-based instead of line-based. Great.
Oh, and don't worry about insulting Emacs. It'll still be there when you grow out of vim ;-p
Re:try wdiff (Score:2)
[Gosh, I love the smell of napalm... Early in the morning... in the Slashdot discussions...]
Re:Strictly software... (Score:2)
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As for me (Score:2)
Tomcat (Score:2)
PostgreSQL (Score:2)
industry, economic, and cultural impact list: (Score:4, Insightful)
Linux. Duh. How much of everything else is built on this fantastic platform for the back end? I'm not personally in support of rolling out desktops to users, but as a server platform its amazing and flexible. More important, it empowers developers to build EVERYTHING.
Asterisk. If you use an IP phone service, you already have a small hint at how this changes things. If you've developed software that uses SIP or IAX2 to connect things and move streaming traffic you're starting to get the hint. IMO, this is a paradigm shifting technology just at the start of a giant curve up in its attention by the industry.
Sourceforce. For obvious reasons, this has empowered so many projects.
Apache, and the things its led to -- like Tomcat, etc.
Eclipse -- Wow, an open sourced (even if originally sponsored, driven, and to some extent built by IBM) rich user context framework and complete IDE for development that's absolutely a rival to Visual Studio.
I know I'm forgetting a ton -- but these in particular are real industry driving tools that changed or are about to change (in the case of Asterisk) large segments of the tech world.
Asterisk (Score:3, Insightful)
Blind spot? (Score:2)
BSD, PHP, Blender (Score:2)
ALL operating systems use core components of this one.
Windows, Linux, OS X and the rest that's worth mentioning.
That is - of course - due to it's quality combined with the BSD licence.
Everybody feeds of BSD, nobody admits it.
PHP:
Not the ultimate PL. I know that. But I think it's safe to say that no other PL is in such wide use across the demografic of people who know the internet. It's the web generations basic. It's the Citizen Band way of doing things with networked computers nowadays. It started as a
Eh, the GNU project and the Linux project? (Score:2)
Linux kernel? (Score:2, Insightful)
Scrabble (Score:2)
KDE! (Score:2)
Filezilla (Score:2, Interesting)
Other FLOSS software... (Score:2, Insightful)
KDE (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm surprise people missed these (Score:2)
Re:I'm surprise people missed these (Score:2)
Freshmeat's Top Goodies Stats. (Score:3, Interesting)
Political agenda (Score:2, Informative)
This choice seems to not really be about "opensource" but rather a way to get the Outfoxed onto Slashdot...cheap
In the future, leave your petty political agendas out of a "TECHNOLOGY" top ten list.
Why Xvid? (Score:2)
If you want to list a video codec, why not http://ffmpeg.sf.net/ [sf.net] ? Not only do they have a great (and fast!) MPEG-4 encoder, they also have hundreds of other codecs, many reverse engineered, and incredibly optimized.
If you're doing anything
can't count? (Score:2, Insightful)
Blender3D (Score:2)
My fav. OS project.. (Score:2)
gcc (Score:2, Insightful)
Software worth paying for (Score:3, Interesting)
DotNetNuke (Score:2)
SourceForge - closed source open source web site (Score:2)
Of course, there's always gforge.org [gforge.org] if you want something similar, that's actually Open Source.
My top 10 (Score:2)
1.The Apache web server (STILL the most popular web server in the world today and consistantly more secure than Microsoft IIS)
2.The Mozilla/Firefox web browser and the Gecko rendering engine (The growing popularity of Gecko based browsers has forced even microsoft to take notice)
3.The OpenOffice office suite (IMO the biggest threat to the total dominance of Microsoft Office since WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3)
4.The Linux kernel (Without this, we
Re:RTFA (Score:5, Informative)
Re:RTFA (Score:2)
Re:RTFA (Score:2)
I would guess that there was a confusion between the author and whoever wrote the summary at the Indy. Another reason for the "Independent isn't a serious newspaper any more" pile, perhaps?
Do you really think a serious newspaper would understand the distinction between open source and open content either?
Re:outfoxed? (Score:2)