FreeBSD 6.0 Released

Reyad Attiyat writes FreeBSD 6.0 is ready for release! New features, and there are lots, can be reviewed at the official site. One of the biggest and most anticipated features (mentioned before on Slashdot) is wireless support, which has been greatly improved upon. This includes support for a lot more cards, WAP support, and integration into the dhcpd client. This release comes only mere days off NetBSD's release and an OpenBSD release. Version 6.0 was intended to be released way back in August but due to a number of factors it had to be delayed till now. Aside from this major release the FreeBSD project has also had some major changes, including most recently a new logo and also a brand new website."

how does this affect OS X?

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Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, is it not?

How do new releases of FreeBSD affect OS X?

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Re:how does this affect OS X?

[Overly Critical Guy]

Darwin eventually syncs with FreeBSD, which ends up in major OS X releases. You can be sure OS X Leopard will be synced with 6.0, as Panther was synced up to 5.0.

Vast performance improvements.

[CyricZ]

Earlier today a client came to me, requesting that a FreeBSD 6.0 demo box be set up as a potential replacement for their current OpenBSD mail server. Indeed, 6.0 may be the release we have all been waiting for. The performance is vastly improved, and the stability is fantastic.

We found that the server was able to process about 60% more mail when running FreeBSD 6.0, as compared to OpenBSD. That's not to suggest that OpenBSD is bad, but performance wise, FreeBSD has taken the lead. And that was without significant tuning, and running a GENERIC kernel.

I'm not certain yet if it is improvements in the network stack, the filesystem subsystem, or in the scheduling. It may be a combination of all three. Some more time will be needed to determine exactly where the benefits are coming from.

Re:how does this affect OS X?

[Eil]

Actually, userland for OS X is primarily netbsd derived, not freebsd.

Wrong. The page you linked to mentions all 3 BSDs exactly once, never specifying which one in particular the userland was primarily derived from.

I'm more inclined to believe the following, straight from news articles and Apple's own documentation:

"Going forward, [Darwin] will track a stable version of FreeBSD, which is the more popular and traditionally x86-only version that claims about a million users worldwide..." (source [zdnet.com])

"The Darwin kernel is based on FreeBSD and Mach 3.0 technologies..." (source [apple.com])

"...the BSD portion of Mac OS X is primarily derived from FreeBSD..." source [apple.com])

"Above the Mach layer, the BSD layer provides "OS personality" APIs and services. The BSD layer is based on the BSD kernel, primarily FreeBSD." (source [apple.com])

"We should note, however, that apart from a few architectural differences (such as our use of the Mach kernel), we try to keep Darwin as compatible as possible with FreeBSD (our BSD reference platform)." (source [apple.com])

"Integrated with Mach is a customized version of the BSD operating system (currently FreeBSD 5)." (source [apple.com])

In fact, practically the only references I can find to NetBSD in Apple's Developer Connection are to the HISTORY sections in some of the man pages. Apple may have borrowed some from NetBSD, but the main BSD player in OS X is clearly FreeBSD.

Re:Real improvement over 5.x

[jadavis]

Can you tell me a little more about any issues you had when upgrading? I just installed my first production FreeBSD box (using 5.4) a month ago.

So far I've had a great experience with FreeBSD. Before that my only experience was GNU/Linux (mostly on Debian).

Any useful resources you have would be nice too. I'm still relatively new to FreeBSD, and I'm not familiar with everything about it. If it's not in the handbook, I don't know it.

Re:Shit...

[Billly Gates]

I have been becoming more and more of a fan of netbsd's pkg's. DrangonFLY recently switched to it with Matt Dillion claiming the problems with the ports is that things change and break. Most DBSD users just used FBSD ports with some patch files. Shudder

I am looking into NetBSD after the fallout with FBSD 5.x but I am willing to try again with 6.x. Pkg's are also available for FreeBSD users from www.netbsd.org and you can compile them from source as well. It takes care of alot of dependancy problems.

Re:Live-CD?

[mnmn]

LiveCDs make for quick evaluations. I dont have the partition for openbsd, so I installed it in vmware to check out the ospfd, how to start it and what can it do. I'll continue to spend time on it, to see if I can port ospfd to other unixen, and even cygwin, my eventual goal.

Now if I had a livecd, I'd use that instead to get full CPU on my side.

Now before you call me a newbie, search my name on google, and maybe visit me sometimes. I have stacks of sparc, hp, rs6000 and alpha machines in my room to play with (just enjoy trying out unixen and porting stuff in between). But I highly value liveCD, since you can download the latest version, plop it into any machine and off you go for the more basic stuff.

Try knoppix sometime. "knoppix 2" gives you just the command line.

Re:Java on BSD

[EvilTwinkie]

Ive had to build java from the ports several times, and while yes its fairly painful the first time, with the login and accounts with Sun, its always worked like a charm. Outside of the compile time, and the hoop jumping, its stable, and works perfectly. I dont care much for precompiled binaries as thats the lame way of building a box. Personally, its always from source, and from the ground up. I've gone as far as to roll my flavor of bsd which is *exactly* what I want. It starts at 5MB... Shame Sun has to be pissy and moany...

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