Yahoo! Mail Superior to Gmail ? 574
ynotme writes "In his column, Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal writes that the new Yahoo! Mail beta provides a superior webmail experience to Gmail. Some quotes: 'The new Yahoo Mail is far superior to Gmail. Yahoo more closely matches the desktop experience most serious email users have come to expect ... Gmail has none of these new, fluid, desktop-like features ... Google's engineers have decreed that familiar email practices are no longer useful, and have substituted approaches they prefer, arrogantly denying users any choice.'"
Re:Linkage? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:invitation only? (Score:1, Informative)
Both products are officially in "beta," or test, status. Neither is easy to obtain and use. If you want a Gmail account, you have to be invited by an existing account holder, or go through an odd sign-up process using your cellphone. Yahoo's new version, just a week old, is -- for now -- available only to Yahoo Mail account holders the company selected, though the user pool will be expanded later this fall.
So.. (Score:5, Informative)
SMTP (Score:2, Informative)
Features? How about connection reliability... (Score:2, Informative)
Of course, hotmail is horrible, but Yahoo has always at least been consistant in this area.
I've never had Yahoo mail time out or not respond.
Re:GMail gives me what I always wanted (Score:2, Informative)
Comment removed (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Seriously? (Score:3, Informative)
1. Click Message
2. Click More options
3. Click Trash this message
alternately:
1. Check Message
2. Click More Actions... drop down
3. Select Move to Trash
Re:GMail gives me what I always wanted (Score:3, Informative)
But I'll say that Google has done Yahoo users a great service, simply by bringing competition to the market. Yahoo has had to greatly increase storage and features in a hurry. It worked, I guess, at least well enough to keep me on as a Yahoo Mail user.
Re:how does it compare to mutt? (Score:1, Informative)
I like gmail mainly because it gives you 2.5 GB space, and free POP3 access. Also I can use any browser, even lynx (which I use most often than any other) or even a cell phone (which thankfully I don't have but I'm sure that day is coming) to access the site.
Better == More Like Outlook? (Score:1, Informative)
Although I suppose it might be nice to have a split view in Gmail where you could see the email in a box below and still scroll through the emails above. Opening multiple emails at a time is nothing new, though--Gmail introduced that with 'threads' ages ago!
Frankly, using Outlook here at work is something I consider *painful* because the UI is so clunky, so I certainly won't be going over to Yahoo any time soon. And invites are hardly a problem any more--I have *100* of the damn things, and anyone who knows anyone at all with a Gmail account should be able to get an invite. As for multiple deletions, clear any labels it has & hit "archive" (or "report spam") as the case may be. Umm, who cares that Google has a collection of your spam? If it's that sensitive, you're an idiot to send it via webmail, anyhow. And even there, there's the HTTPS hack for Gmail, where a tiny protocol change allows you to go back to HTTPS after you log in, so that your whole session is encrypted (hint: after you log in, change the URL from http back to https like it was when you logged in... voila, your session is now encrypted).
That and they have that SMS signup thingy. Can't blame them for restricting the signups so that you can't just create dozens of accounts there.
Which leaves me with the only thing the other services are useful to me for any more: throw away accounts.
Re:invitation only? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Before you start all the Yahoo bashing.... (Score:2, Informative)
Best, of course, would be some hierarchical system like in IMatch, but one step at a time, I say.
I prefer Yahoo! Mail (Score:3, Informative)
http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools?tool=3 [yahoo.com]
And a Flash animation/tour/explanation at the end of that page.
Re:Before you start all the Yahoo bashing.... (Score:3, Informative)
Are you unaware that GMail also supports filters, with a filter action of "Skip inbox"? This action is the same as archiving an email from the Inbox view. The mail will show up in both All Mail and by clicking on the label. If a certain label is applied to an unread mail, the label is displayed in bold. So basically, they have all the functionality of folders and filters, but the added bonus of the mail being viewable from more than one label without storing multiple copies.
Re:don't forget (Score:5, Informative)
I sign up to almost all online things with
example for my slashdotaccount
carl0ski+slashdot@gmail.com
a + symbol and any string can be added between you gmail account name and the at symbol.
They are vaild addresses an delivered to you.
In my case i use them for security purposes, suspect sites i use carl0ski+spam
as my address.
then filter it straight to trash
Exactly why Yahoo! is NOT better than Gmail... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Before you start all the Yahoo bashing.... (Score:3, Informative)
Well, you can do that - I have filters set up to label particular emails and then not bother showing them in the inbox. And my label list on the left shows labels with emails that are unread in bold, with the number of unread mails in brackets after the label names. i.e. exactly what you want.
If it helps: labels are just like normal folders, except you can put more than one label on an email.
Labels seem great to me - never had any problems with them.
Re:Seriously? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Screenshots (Score:3, Informative)
Ask and ye shall receive [scripting.com]...
Re:Before you start all the Yahoo bashing.... (Score:3, Informative)
You can. Messages which skip the inbox are still marked as unread, and still highlight as unread in the list of filters. There is absolutely nothing you can do with folders that you can't do with labels* (they are essentially a less powerful version of the same thing), and there is things you can do with labels that you can't (semantically) do with folders (multiple membership, for instance).
Folders are a clumsy metaphor, I find. The same forces that are moving filesystems (or, in particular, their representation to the user) away from the "directories" approach are making this change. There's no reason to have files which can only be in one "folder" — it's an artificially limited metaphor.
* Although obviously you can't, in Google's implementation, have folders-in-folders or the like, but this isn't really a problem with the metaphor (nor a feature that 95% of people would find useful).
Privacy with Yahoo (Score:2, Informative)
Thing like...
- Yahoo! lets other companies that show advertisements on some of our pages set and access their cookies on your computer.
- Yahoo! collects personal information when you register with Yahoo!, when you use Yahoo! products or services, when you visit Yahoo! pages or the pages of certain Yahoo! partners, and when you enter promotions or sweepstakes. Yahoo! may combine information about you that we have with information we obtain from business partners or other companies.
- Yahoo! collects information about your transactions with us and with some of our business partners, including information about your use of financial products and services that we offer.
Hasn't anyone tried Goowy yet? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:And the Leopard 2 is superiour to the T-34 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Secure POP Access? (Score:2, Informative)
All you have to do (assuming your e-mail client supports it) is set it to "Keep Messages on Server for N days" (where N is large enough that you are sure to have downloaded e-mail from all your computers).
Works great on The Bat. It also has a "Delete Message from server when it is removed from Trash) which is handy so that you don't download spam or general useless messages on several computers.
gmail vs. yahoo webmail (Score:2, Informative)
Best of Both Worlds (Score:4, Informative)
The advantages: I have a stable email address that's fairly well spam-filtered, and isn't tied to my ISP; I also get secure connections (with POP, SMTP, and HTTPS). Meanwhile, I don't have to turn on my main machine, and don't have to set up multiple mail clients, but can still get the benefits of old-school mail management while being able to access my mail from anywhere.
Re:Choice? (Score:3, Informative)
a) You can access gmail's mail with POP3 (you can't get at Yahoo's pop access with a free account).
b) You can read POP3 mail with a Yahoo account
So, umm, yeah, you can use the Yahoo interface to read your gmail mail.
Next.
Re:Question from an uninformed person...... (Score:2, Informative)
Not if its drag and drop inside of the browser. Then its just using DHTML. Dragging components on a webpage is not that complex to accomplish.
Re:Seriously? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Choice? (Score:3, Informative)
For the record, I've not used Yahoo!'s mail service, and it may well be better than Gmail. But the reasoning presented by the article is less than convincing to me, and it seems like the author is bearing something of a grudge. IMO. YMMV.
Re:Seriously? (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.arantius.com/article/arantius/gmail+de
Re:Apple first (Score:1, Informative)