50Mbps Cable Launched on Long Island 291
the-dark-kangaroo writes "Cable Vision have teamed up with Narad Networks to provide a new 50Mbps broadband service in the New York metropolitan area. The current deployment has a capability of 100Mbps (the connections are symmetric) with future developments allowing up to 10Gbps connections. The system utilises current cabling systems allowing enterprise level connections to homes and businesses."
They can't even handle 10mbit/1mbit (Score:5, Interesting)
As much as Long Island sucks... (Score:5, Interesting)
With all the fear and loathing over p2p, I'm surprised to see that they're allowing high-speed symmetrical connections like this. I was fully expecting 50Mbps down/16Kbps up, or something similarly retarded.
And what does this do to hosting providers like serverbeach? That 50Mbps is going to be unmetered, right? So the game server, your new pay-per-view pr0n site, and the blog all get hosted at home on the Mac Mini. Wow.
And no, it's not flamebait about Long Island. People who live there know what I'm talking about. It's the traffic. You have to drive to get anywhere and even a simple trip to the grocery store and back can make you go insane. To say nothing of commuting. And if you're actually commuting to Manhattan and back, I only have two words for you: hard drugs.
Re:THIS IS NOT FAIR (Score:5, Interesting)
$100 for 2Mbps down / 256 kbps up (yes, that's cheapest DSL that doesn't have monthly transfer limit of 35-or-so GB).
$110 installation, $100 monthly. And that's only because they offer a "promotion" since the begining of June (was much more). Plus it's a minimum 24 months deal.
You guys don't have a clue what less fortunate people (why oh why wasn't I born in a civilized country?) feel when they read your complaints about the level of service you're being provided with (and costs associated with it, especially when you take a look at average salary).
Re:They can't even handle 10mbit/1mbit (Score:2, Interesting)
I don't live in an OOL area, but pulling up the optimumonline website, I see that its run by CableVision. Do you have any reason to believe that this CableVision network will behave in a significantly different fashion?
Re:what will you even use it for? (Score:2, Interesting)
I honestly doubt it (Score:2, Interesting)
While the individual pipes may be able to handle 100Mbps and greater, unless they lay an entirely new system down, guaranteeing it and preventing bottleneck will be almost impossible.
FTTP, like that provided by Verizon (which I have), is much more promising. The new system is there and in place. Verizon has the financial backing to keep making upgrades to this system to keep improving it to wipe out competition. Right now, they have an OC-12 pipe going out to a maximum of 32 customers Which guarantees 20Mbps to every customer all at the same time. While they can't promise 30Mbps to everyone at once, I find this "risk" a whole lot more rational that what CableVision hopes to do.
Word is from what I've seen, Verizon will be upgrading to OC-24 pipes, if not OC-48, very soon.
Re:TCP/IP class 101 in session (Score:5, Interesting)
If it were really 50Mbit downstream, they'd need to give something like 8Mbit up, or at the very least 4.
I call BS. The overhead for ACKs on a pure download is _not that_ high. I ran netstat -bI 1 while downloading a file via HTTP:
376704 9420
323586 9708
378421 9724
377904 9228
First number is bytes down, second is bytes up over the last second. The ratio is roughly 40:1. You must have done something wrong saturating half an Mbit with a 4Mb download.