Haiku's Window Manager 37
Professor Cool Linux writes "From IsComputerOn: Adi, over at DarkWyrm's page, has posted a progress status of Haiku's window manager, and the good news is that it's almost complete. They have, for example, support for normal, floating app/subset/all and model app/subset/all windows, as well as workspace support. All that's left are smaller things like not allowing windows to be moved or resized and focus follow mouse (among a few others) remain to be implemented still. But along with the status report, Adi was kind enough to post a plethora of screenshots, showing many examples of how the window manager is working. Full report and the screenshots."
Not impressive (Score:2, Insightful)
mod me troll but I fail to see what's so impressive about this. Anyone care to explain?
Re:Not impressive (Score:2, Insightful)
Do we need a
Welcome the BE (Score:5, Insightful)
It's irrational Be-worship. It's rampant in some corners of the internet. We're usually spared from it here, but not always.
This is pure OSNews.com fodder.
News for nerds maybe ... hardly stuff that matters.
Re:Welcome the BE (Score:5, Insightful)
Anyone who HAS used the interface would realize its incredibly internally consistent, it is faster than just about anything out there at the moment, and that many of it's features are just now starting to be replicated by its competitors (i.e. I was using "spotlight" in 1999 on a BeBox.)
Sure, it doesn't have the drop shadows (yet). But I have yet to see a drop shadow help me work faster. And this UI doesn't need an accelerated video card to work.
The real value of this post is showing how far the haiku project has come. This is a concrete demonstration of core technologies being replaced in an end-user recognizable manner. This isn't a prefs panel, or a terminal based booting kernel screenshot. It's something BeOS users (and former-users) can see and realize that the haiku project isn't a pipe dream... it is happening, and it is working. One day (in the hopefully near future) there will be a fully open source BeOS. Thats when it gets really interesting.
Re:Welcome the BE (Score:3, Interesting)
I played with BeOS in 99. Admittedly not extensively. But I did give the free edition a whirl. Sure there was cool stuff there to see, but your assumption that I never actually used it is pretty arrogant, don't you think?
I was rooting for Be back in the day, too. I thought the BeBox was one amazingly cool little machine. And if the management at Be hadn't been so borish, they might have been bought out by Apple in the end. Too bad they didn't take the deal that was offe
Re:Welcome the BE (Score:3, Informative)
Not quite. I was a fan back in the day. Ran BeOS while at university (dual boot as needed) and enjoyed it. Now I run mac, windows, and am working on linux from scratch with a ubuntu base. I haven't run BeOS in years, and don't have a box that boots it.
I played with BeOS in 99. Admittedly not extensively. But I did give the free edition a whirl. Sure there was cool stuff there to see, but your assumption that I never actually used it is pretty arrogant, don't you think?
You gav
Re:Welcome the BE (Score:2)
Also, withouth drop shadows != ugly. Some of the ones you list, while possibly not ugly, certainly dont win awards for looks. Haiku doesn't either, but it's pleasing enough that it's theme and colors have been cloned in most skinnable things that i've seen.
Re:Welcome the BE (Score:1, Troll)
It's not hard to be "internally consistent" if an OS has hardly any users and hardly any applications.
and that many of it's features are just now starting to be replicated by its competitors (i.e. I was using "spotlight" in 1999 on a BeBox.)
You make it sound as if BeOS actually innovated; it did not. Neither its file system, nor its interface, nor its arc
Re:Not impressive (Score:3, Insightful)
I feel the error was in focusing on the window manager alone , though for those with intrest in haiku this is big news.
It means we are one step closer to having a beOS-alike which is both free and open
Personaly i am not that big a fan of BeOS but its still intresting to see how the project is progressing. If haiku delivers all of its goals it will make a nice easy alternative d
ok, the point being? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:ok, the point being? (Score:3, Informative)
What makes this so interesting is that it doesn't share any portion of code with the original BeOS WM, instead it's a full reimplementation of it from scratch (as most of the rest of the OpenBeOs project).
Re:ok, the point being? (Score:2, Flamebait)
No. You can run the same apps in WindowMaker, IceWM, Gnome, KDE, and so on. No porting required. This is well known, and the fact that you've been modded up just shows that Slashdot is no longer a nerd site. Why do you come here anyway?
This windowmanager, however, isn't for X11 and Linux, it's for Haiku, the BeOS clone. So in this case, X11 apps would need porting to BeOS to be used t
Re:ok, the point being? (Score:4, Informative)
To answer your question more politely than the other guy did -- no, with some very minor exceptions, all applications can be run in any window manager. You're thinking of graphics toolkits (like the Qt and Gtk toolikts underlying KDE and GNOME), or maybe the communications mechanisms of desktop applications, but the real "window managers" don't have those issues.
Anyway, as the angry guy pointed out, the news here is that this is a Be-compliant WM for OpenBeOS. It has nothing to do with Linux.
Re:ok, the point being? (Score:2)
Re:ok, the point being? (Score:1)
Re:ok, the point being? (Score:2)
This isn't Linux. Haiku's a BeOS reimplementation. Having a working window manager is a major milestone to
Bugs... (Score:4, Insightful)
I can't tell if he's trying to be humorous, or not. From his site:
"only small stuff like not allowing windows to be moved or resized ... remain to be implemented"
That's small stuff?
Re:Bugs... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Bugs... (Score:3, Insightful)
It would have been nice (Score:5, Insightful)
Even if the story submitter did not include such information, would it have been so hard for the *cough*editor*cough* to have added that information at the end of the post?
Or was the idea of adding simple information (as opposed to inflammatory commentary) unappealing to the *cough*editors*cough*?
For those who dont know (Score:2, Informative)
I implimented rollups in my window manager a few months ago, should I post a slashdot story about it?
Re:For those who dont know (Score:2, Funny)
WOW! Holy Crap! (Score:2)
Re:WOW! Holy Crap! (Score:2)
That covers basically all the useful WMs out there.
Icewm is very light, fast and works well. It's good for memory constrained devices [laptops, media boxes, etc].
Gnome is larger but more "gui user" friendly. Useful for desktops/laptops.
KDE is larger still but essentially wraps the entire desktop in a nice shiny GUI [it's filemanager is way better than Nautilus for example].
All the other WMs out there are rehashes of the same.
Tom
Re:WOW! Holy Crap! (Score:2)
Only big reason I use gnome is occasionally it's nice to browse an icon list of PDFs instead of trying to tab complete a god-forsaken PLC'ed PDF name...
Tom
Re:WOW! Holy Crap! (Score:2)
Unfortunately, e17's *release* will be, at some point during those "years ahead of it's time too", so it'll actually be right on time.
Redundant Effort (Score:1)
hmmm (Score:3, Insightful)
Are you ready? (Score:3, Funny)
Reports are filtering in from all over the world of network ops centers being suddenly bereft of key personnel; development workstations left mysteriously unmanned in the middle of pair coding sessions, tech support calls suddenly going silent. Vending machine candy and soda sales have crashed, and coffee futures are set to take a major tumble.
All of which raises the question:
Are you ready... for the Rupture?
linux.slashdot.org (Score:2, Insightful)
obligatory haiku about haiku (Score:2)
seems like potential is there
FOR ME TO POOP ON
Linux? (Score:1)