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Hack turns GIMP into Photoshop Look-alike 749

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Mr_Silver writes "One of the many complaints about the GIMP is that of its user interface and how it should be more like Photoshop. If you feel that this is true then Scott Moschella has hacked together GimpShop which turns GIMP's user interface into something more akin to Photoshop for OSX. However, if you're not running that operating system, fret not, because there is a version for Linux too."
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Hack turns GIMP into Photoshop Look-alike

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  • by winkydink (650484) * <sv.dude@gmail.com> on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:40PM (#12105480) Homepage Journal
    and take it out to dinner, it's still a pig in a dress, not a girlfriend.
    • by Rei (128717) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:42PM (#12105500) Homepage
      Honestly, I like Gimp fine the way it is. I think this case is more akin to putting a girlfriend in a pig suit. ;) Reasonable people's opinions will differ, of course.
      • Seconded (Score:5, Insightful)

        by leonbrooks (8043) <SentByMSBlast-No ... .brooks.fdns.net> on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:00PM (#12105666) Homepage
        Looking for a hack to make PhotoShop look like The GIMP. Tearoff menus would be a nice start.
        • Re:Seconded (Score:4, Insightful)

          by mboverload (657893) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:25PM (#12105876) Journal
          Of course you just leave out 90%+ of the computer population using Windows...
    • by Tackhead (54550) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:44PM (#12105513)
      > and take it out to dinner, it's still a pig in a dress, not a girlfriend.

      Zed: his .JPG of you says you don't got no purty mouth.

      Maynard: Bring out the GIMP.

      Zed: The GIMP's sleeping.

      Maynard: Well I guess you'll have to kill - SIGALRM it, won't you?

    • by Anonymous Coward
      A-bah-dee, a-bah-dee, a-bah-dee, a-bah- what's wrong with that?

      Porky
    • by daeley (126313) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:06PM (#12105713) Homepage
      and take it out to dinner, it's still a pig in a dress, not a girlfriend.

      Maybe, but if the pig won't charge you $500 for the privilege of taking it out to dinner... ;)
    • by hawk (1151) <hawk@eyry.org> on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:25PM (#12105877) Journal

      Not even in Arkansas?

      :)

      hawk

      • by Solder Fumes (797270) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @10:13PM (#12106583)
        Hey now, I recently moved to Arkansas, and I can tell you that they are just like people anywhere else, drive nice cars and wear shoes, speak clearly and are well educated. Enough with this stereotyping! People from Arkansas have a right to be taken seriously.

        Aww...who am I kidding? Everything you think about Arkansas...it's all true.
    • Debian Packages Here (Score:4, Informative)

      by tskisner (775465) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @11:10PM (#12106905)
      I made some "drop-in replacement" gimp packages for debian sid (i386 and amd64). I just built this modified source using the package rules from the "real" debian gimp. Because I didn't change the name, if you install these and then apt-get upgrade in the future, they will be replaced by the stock debian packages. You can get them here:

      http://cmb.phys.cwru.edu/kisner/gimpshop/ [cwru.edu]

      Anyway, at least it is an easy way to install and check it out.

      -Ted
  • Cool (Score:5, Funny)

    by Neil Blender (555885) <neilblender@gmail.com> on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:40PM (#12105484)
    Now if only someone would hack it into a photoshop do-alike.
  • by chrispl (189217) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:41PM (#12105493) Homepage
    from Adobe lawyers in three, two, one....
  • YAY! (Score:5, Funny)

    by jefedesign (869140) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:42PM (#12105497) Homepage
    Gimp: New and improved. I love the photoshop look and feel. Now I can enjoy the look of photoshop with the functionality of Gimp.
  • I am happy for this (Score:3, Informative)

    by bogaboga (793279) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:42PM (#12105499)
    I am happy for this, but for sure, his site is gonna get the [slashdot] effect. The native GIMP interface was no good in my opinion. I pay no penny for the previledge to use it so I do not complain. I hope he's got enough bandwidth and backed up by a nicely configured Linux System.
  • Torrent perhaps? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by cjsnell (5825) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:42PM (#12105501) Journal

    It might be a good idea to seed a torrent for this before the 40Mb downloads crush his server.
  • Finally... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by geneing (756949) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:43PM (#12105502)
    For those who don't follow gimp development, I think this has been one of the often requested "features" for many years. Gimp developers usually say if you want it - do it yourself. Finally someone did.
    • by Rahga (13479) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:48PM (#12105555) Homepage Journal
      Actually, for this particular one, they tend to say "NOTABUG" or "WONTFIX".
  • by ubiquitin (28396) * on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:43PM (#12105504) Homepage Journal
    The MacGIMP [macgimp.org] web site has the download link for the MacOSX disk image here [macgimp.org].
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:43PM (#12105509)
    Yeah, but too bad that The Gimp does not support 16bpp (no, CinePaint does not do what I want) and it doesn't support "Crop and Rotate" the way Photoshop does (very convenient trick to implement both in a single keystroke). These two features are what keeping me back from using Gimp for my photography.

    Until that day comes, Photoshop it is.
    • The Gimp does not support 16bpp

      16bpp is nice, but for most of its life, Photoshop didn't support 16bpp either, and yet professionals were using it widely.

      it doesn't support "Crop and Rotate" the way Photoshop does (very convenient trick to implement both in a single keystroke)

      You can implement features like that in a couple of lines of scripting. Or you can just turn on "dynamic menu shortcuts" and pick more convenient shortcuts.
  • Fanstistic (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:44PM (#12105516)
    This is really fantastic. A windows port is an obvious need.

    Actually totally copying photoshop is taking things pretty far! I'd have settled for a simple normal window model for each platform. Cool though.

    This WILL reduce barriers to entry very dramatically. Always was curious that GIMP put together a nice package, but made it so awakward to use.
  • by soupdevil (587476) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:45PM (#12105529)
    is cmyk. My boss is ready to buy 5 licenses for Adobe CS2, and I'd love to save him a few grand.
    • by G-funk (22712) <josh@gfunk007.com> on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:12PM (#12105755) Homepage Journal
      My boss is ready to buy 5 licenses for Adobe CS2, and I'd love to save him a few grand.

      This my friends, is how you get your ass beaten by every beret-wearing latte drinking graphic designer in the building.
      • No graphic designers here. Small company, and we all cover many tasks. I personally am the IT department, inhouse sales, PR hack, and general office lackey. Occasionally they even let me in the warehouse, but I'm not allowed on the forklift. So none of us are 18-hour-a-day Photoshop worshippers.
      • Known quite a few artists. None of them wore berets, they were mostly a t-shirt and jeans crowd. Most couldn't afford to drink anything but Maxwell House. No kidding.

        The people you see in front of the Starbucks dressed in fashionable black with the berets cocked on their brows are probably art dealers or self-styled critics, not artists.
    • "is cmyk. My boss is ready to buy 5 licenses for Adobe CS2, and I'd love to save him a few grand."

      Just remember that his saving a few grand is going to cost YOU. The good news, though, is that what it costs you depends on what you do with the app. Me, personally, I create textures with Photoshop, and GIMP is sorely missing out on the transfer modes that I need. Hopefully with that example, you'll understand how my math works.
  • Impressive (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Auckerman (223266) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:47PM (#12105545)
    Certainly a step in the right direction, only in the sense from what the page says, it's a vast improvement in the interface over gimp. That being said, it does fall into the same trap as other OSS project like to be in, mimicking. If a developer wants his/her project to be noticed not only does it have to do what the competition does, it has to have some added value over the competition. Price isn't necessarily a good way to standout, people are more than willing to pay for something they perceive as better. It would be nice if there were more publicly done research into interface design, OSS projects would benefit greatly from it.

    As a OS X user, I would also say anything that requires X11 is not a native OS X application. With no core OS X technology support (little things like colorsync, quicktime, etc), Gimp will really never take off on OS X. I personally will stick to using photoshop.
    • Re:Impressive (Score:3, Informative)

      by Compenguin (175952)
      Hub of abiword fame is workign on an X-less Gtk+ for MacOS. [figuiere.net]
    • by solios (53048)
      .... I WANT A GODDAMNED FOSS PHOTOSHOP CLONE. >:|

      It's the only piece of pay software I use, and it's been UNuseable for my needs since v.6 came out- and it keeps getting more bloated, slower, and less useable as time goes by. It really burns my ass that they changed a lot of the key bindings (FOR NO REASON) with v.6 and give the user NO way to actually edit a key config for themselves. Games have been doing this for years and MS Office is extensively customizeable... you'd think Adobe would get on boa
      • by barfy (256323) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @09:13PM (#12106222)
        Yeah I understand hating a piece of software that makes you more money than it costs. That does things that no other piece of software does...

        But anyways. Under the Edit menu you can change your keyboard shortcuts to whatever the "F" you want. And you could always change the keyboard shortcuts if you put as much research into it as you do into bitching about it.

        And oh yeah, there was that whole Illustrator/Indesign rationalization for making the same type of keyboard shortcuts the same in all of the apps. So that the learning impaired would only have to learn them one last time.

        So young to not be able to learn... Maybe we should start a foundation...
      • by cei (107343) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @09:19PM (#12106249) Homepage Journal
        Repeat after me:
        1. Open Adobe Photoshop CS
        2. Select "Keyboard Shortcuts" from the Edit menu
        3. Shut the fuck up about not being able to change keybindings
        If you're still using Photoshop 5.5 on a Mac OS X box, no wonder you're not happy.
    • Re:Impressive (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Nailer (69468)

      As a OS X user, I would also say anything that requires X11 is not a native OS X application. With no core OS X technology support (little things like colorsync, quicktime, etc), Gimp will really never take off on OS X. I personally will stick to using photoshop.


      After playing with OSS a while you realize that more than one person usually wants what you want, provided its a reasonably common problem you're addressing.

      GTK2 is being ported to OSX (without needing X11 [figuiere.net].
  • For better or worse (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Frumious Wombat (845680) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:51PM (#12105586)
    This should help the GIMP gain greater acceptance. Rather than getting a Photoshop-oriented book, and then translating the lessons into Gimpese, users can go directly. Hopefully this will encourage more people to try, use, and promote The GIMP, while producing better photos in the process.

    Ob. Disclaimer: I've used the GIMP since 0.54 on SGI, and think it hit a peak of usability somewhere around 1.1. The newer features are nice, but I'm glad someone took a stand and wrote an alternative. With this interface, it's a great alternative to Elements, and will hopefully cause Free Software to be used in more environments than before.
  • The old interface (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Compenguin (175952) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:51PM (#12105589)
    I kind of miss the old gimp interface (the one without the menubar on the images). but I know most people don't agree. It felt very object oriented to me.
  • Windows? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Jozer99 (693146) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:52PM (#12105597)
    What about us poor Windows users? There are quite a lot of us, and I'm sure you would want to educate us heathens to the benifits of open source software. Somebody please port it!
  • by winkydink (650484) * <sv.dude@gmail.com> on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:56PM (#12105624) Homepage Journal
    Here [igtc.com]
  • Fedora Core 2 RPM (Score:4, Interesting)

    by SuperficialRhyme (731757) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @07:56PM (#12105626) Homepage
    There's a Fedora Core 2 RPM here:

    Code Mills [codemills.com]

    Good luck with anything else (the site with the source is slashdotted now :-/).
  • Mirror (Score:5, Informative)

    by LogicX (8327) * <slashdot AT logicx DOT us> on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:06PM (#12105709) Homepage Journal
    Feel free to snag the files from me (can handle a few hundred GBs)

    GIMPshop.dmg.tbz [logicx.net]
    GIMPshop-source-2.2.4.tbz [logicx.net]
  • Hello negativity (Score:5, Insightful)

    by pherthyl (445706) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:12PM (#12105753)
    It's really quite amazing how negative many people are.

    User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't look like photoshop!"

    Dev: "Here, we recreated the photoshop interface for Gimp. You may be more comfortable with it now"

    User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't act like photoshop!"

    Holy shit people. The Gimp rocks, be thankful for that. Yes it doesn't have some of photoshop's features, but most people don't need those features anyway. You can't tell me most people are professional graphic artists or work in a print shop. For those people, get Photoshop, for everyone else, get the Gimp. Would you rather spend 700 bucks, or an extra 5 minutes figuring soemthing out?

    Unless of course, you have no ethical problem with illegaly copying software, in which case you might as well get Photoshop for your l33t h4x0r graphics.
    • by dasunt (249686) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:45PM (#12106030)
      User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't look like photoshop!"

      Dev: "Here, we recreated the photoshop interface for Gimp. You may be more comfortable with it now"

      User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't act like photoshop!"

      Dev: "Here's a version of GIMP that acts like photoshop."

      User: "Wahhhh! Why can't the Open Source community ever do anything innovative instead of just copying commercial software!"

    • by ThousandStars (556222) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @10:25PM (#12106662) Homepage
      Holy shit people. The Gimp rocks, be thankful for that. Yes it doesn't have some of photoshop's features, but most people don't need those features anyway. You can't tell me most people are professional graphic artists or work in a print shop. For those people, get Photoshop, for everyone else, get the Gimp. Would you rather spend 700 bucks, or an extra 5 minutes figuring soemthing out?

      I think the important thing to remember is that, even though the GIMP is an excellent resouce for its price, it's far from the be-all, end-all of photo manipulation. Therefore it makes sense for users to offer constructive criticism, and I think it important to distinguish between that and whining. The former helps form a direction for the GIMP developers, and not everyone has the hacking skills or time to make a direct contribution. This is the sort of situations where, while users should be thankful for what they have, they should also look ahead at what they need. Without that second part, there cannot be progress.

  • Adobe's interface (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MenTaLguY (5483) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:24PM (#12105861) Homepage
    Adobe's interfaces tend to be pretty bad, actually, but they are an improvement on the GIMP's in some respects. I wonder if GimpShop really manages to incorporate the subtle things that give Photoshop an advantage, though...

    Also, can we PLEASE get a name that doesn't contain the world "GIMP"? Pretty please? Pleeeease?
  • Whew! (Score:3, Funny)

    by LesPaul75 (571752) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:30PM (#12105910) Journal
    ...Photoshop for OSX. However, if you're not running that operating system, fret not, because there is a version for Linux too.
    Whew! For a minute, I thought they weren't going to have all of the operating systems covered, but that blurb reassured me.
  • by eno2001 (527078) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:33PM (#12105950) Homepage Journal
    Collision imminent! Collision imminent!

    Methinks this is an April Fool's Day joke.

    1. Don't you think Adobe would sue the pants off of anyone who did this?
    2. For those of us used to GIMP, redoing the look and feel to be like Photoshop won't do much good.
  • by merlyn (9918) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:39PM (#12105991) Homepage Journal
    I realize that the GIMP is free, and all that, and that Photoshop is evil because it comes as a locked-up restricted binary...

    But having said that, The Gimp is great if you need only the features of Photoshop 4 or 5. Photoshop has come a long way since then. Anyone who compares the two as "comparable" has not spent more than a few hours with the latest releases of Photoshop. There are definitely some cool things about process and detailed editing that The Gimp doesn't even come close for.

    And I suspect this will continue to be the case. I'm willing to pay $800 to get today's tools, even though tools from five years ago are available for free.

  • by Sark666 (756464) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @08:40PM (#12106002)
    This is seems pretty much like a button relabeling/shuffling. What really erks me with gimp is every tool having it's own window. I like having a parent window with everything else being a sub window with all tools staying 'above' the opened images. And tab was always handy to hide everything but the window of the image so you could just work on the image at hand with the current tool selected without being encumbered with all the clutter of the tool/layers windows etc.

    I've tried to have a somewhat similar environment with having all the gimp tools in one workspace and the image in another but it's just not the same.

    And I've seen this mentioned before with stating why an MDI interface is inferior. Well, it's hard to swallow something you know you don't like after multiple attempts at getting used to it, no matter who tells you 'no what you've liked all this time, no no, that way is no good, this is the way.'

    But, from what I understand, this functionality is beyond most (all?) current window managers for X.
  • Jokes aside... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DaveJay (133437) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @09:26PM (#12106287)
    Jokes aside, if you've invested years of effort into Photoshop at work, this is a nice way to carry that deeply-ingrained UI comfort into a tool that is free in both senses of the word. I use GIMP once and a while, but the UI differences between it and Photoshop (which I must use for work) are too jarring, so I end up booting my work laptop instead.
  • Subject (Score:3, Funny)

    by Legion303 (97901) on Thursday March 31, 2005 @11:10PM (#12106906) Homepage
    Who's running the "How long until Adobe sues Scott?" pool? I have $10 on a week.
  • Also see (Score:4, Funny)

    by mkro (644055) on Friday April 01, 2005 @01:36AM (#12107824)
    this hack [luxuriousity.com], that turns Gimp into money.

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