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Through The Steve Ballmer Looking Glass 470

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Class Act Dynamo writes "I was browsing for a video clip I saw the other day, and I came across this clip from 15 years ago of Steve Ballmer pitching windows 1.0 in a television commercial. All I can say is WOW. Apparently, there was a big demand for integrating "LOTUS 1-2-3 with Miami Vice." You'll understand when you see the clip." Let it not be said that Microsoft has no sense of humor.
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Through The Steve Ballmer Looking Glass

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  • sheesh... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 23, 2005 @10:41PM (#11452092)
    its "stories" like this that keep me from becoming a paying subscriber. Mildly humorous but the blatant, useless MS bashing from a submission with no news quality whatsoever is juvenile and unbecoming for the business that is slashdot.
  • by Bs15 (762456) on Sunday January 23, 2005 @10:42PM (#11452095)
    According to this commercial, it was priced at $99, now if you want a vintage copy of M$ Windows 1.0, its $200+. Take a look on ebay.
  • What can I say? (Score:0, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 23, 2005 @10:43PM (#11452110)
    I actually felt sorry for him when I saw it.
  • by beacher (82033) on Sunday January 23, 2005 @10:51PM (#11452187) Homepage
    Considering that this is from Ebaum's World, I find it hard to believe it's not just a joke/fake.
    That's the point. It wasn't a joke then but it sure as hell is one now.... Now all we need to complete this whole trollish article is for someone to find the Windows XP with reboot Chimp pic and the troll will be complete.

    Fucking Hell... Is it such a slow weekend that this drivel is making it on? WTF. People used to call me a slashbot and I think I'm slowly realizing wtf they're talking about. I'm sure that plenty of articles are being rejected en masse for the same reposted old stale ass drivel.

    Someone start a goddamn poll on which editors need to be fired.

    B

  • by fm6 (162816) on Sunday January 23, 2005 @10:54PM (#11452214) Homepage Journal
    Careful what you record, it may come back to haunt you.

    I had a job where they just had to do a "Weakest Link" takeoff at all company meetings, just because they happened to have a female marketeer with a British accent. Made me dread the meetings. She was a lot more attractive than Anne Robinson, but her impersonation sucked.

  • Re:1.0? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by MaGGuN (630724) on Sunday January 23, 2005 @11:03PM (#11452267)
    What is that supposed to mean anyway?

    Seems like it got modded funny because it is negative towards microsoft and windows xp.

  • Newsworthy? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Fortress (763470) on Sunday January 23, 2005 @11:06PM (#11452287) Homepage

    I really fail to see how this is News for Nerds or Stuff that Matters. It's just as bad as Bill Gates in 1983 Teen Beat Magazine [slashdot.org].

    Editors, can we have a Childish Microsoft Bashing section so I can filter this crap from my frontpage?

  • Re:sheesh... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 23, 2005 @11:15PM (#11452359)
    Meh, they'd have to do a lot better to get me to subscribe. The play-school version of liberal politics and silly MS bashing are pretty much part of the ambience, but easily ignored. The constant dupes, IRC style spelling and grammar, self righteous bleating of Michael, and poor performance of the site itself are the things that make it not worth paying for.
  • Re:1.0? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Seumas (6865) on Sunday January 23, 2005 @11:26PM (#11452434)
    I know this is completely off topic, but here is my suggestion: Debian.

    I know, it has a reputation of being one of the most difficult to install and administer, because of the "guru" factor. I don't think that's accurate. If you're inexperienced when it comes to computers, I would suggest something with a stronger grounding in point and click. If you're well-experienced, then you might be more comfortable with Debian.

    I grew up on DOS (except for my first experience, which was with a VIC-20 in 1984). I barely used Windows. Even after Windows95 came out, I refused to use it. I didn't start using Windows until Windows98 - and only begrudgingly. Not long after, I started playing with Linux. A friend/coworker introduced everyone in the office to it and a lot of us grabbed onto it and have been die-hard ever since (back in about 1998).

    I played with Red Hat, mostly. I didn't like it. It didn't feel right and it was hard to figure out where things were for me. It felt kludgy. But then I got my hands on Debian. The only reason I bothered with Debian was that I knew Slashdot used it.

    I LOVED it! I don't know why, but the whole process made so much sense to me. Maybe it was because dselect was a lot like ANSI-based BBS interfaces I used back in 1989 to 1996, when I ran my own BBS. All I know is that everything fell into place at that point. Even to this day, I still don't use a GUI on linux (unless it's ncurses or something). No xwindows for me. :)

    A year and a half later, I was employed by the biggest UNIX company in the world, debugging their enterprise servers. All because Debian clicked and I latched onto it. It changed my life.

    Debian may not be your thing, but if you prefer a command line and knowing where things are located and don't just want magical things to happen behind the scenes when you click on a button, you will probably love Debian. You can apply the glossy coat, too - but you'll dig the undercarriage.

    My other preferred distro is Slackware. For exactly the same reason as Debian (except I'm a major fan of Debian's apt-get - I would hate to live without it).

    Otherwise, I might suggest Gentoo. I played with that a bit and like it. It is very configurable and can be just as light or detailed as you want it to be. Their site offers much information on how to configure it at whatever level you care for.

    Mandrake seems good, but I couldn't get it to work properly with my 23" HD Apple Cinedisplay LCD. It displayed the desktops at the prefered resolution (1920x), but only displayed in a *screen* resolution of 1024x768. That meant you had to mouse around the environment just to see the rest of the desktop. No amount of LineMode tweaking seemed to resolve it. Played with NVidia's custom linux drivers. Copied and tweaked configurations from a lot of resources on the net that used the same monitor (or in some cases had even successfully managed to do dual displays with such monitors!) . . . But I couldn't swing it in Mandrake. After a few days, I gave up - simply becuase I didn't have any more time to affort to that venture.

    Anyway, you probably don't care about that if you're just using a regular monitor. So don't let that detract from your consideration.

    I can't offer much in the way of Suse. I used Caldera back in the day, but not for long. A number of my colleagues use Suse and love it. I personally would not reccommend it to anyone as a first choice, but I have no solid justification for that.

    I'd also suggest playing with Knoppix if you are very uncertain of linux and want to get your feet wet first.

    I would also suggest checking out the various communities before commiting to a distro. That will play a large part in your experience with it. Mandrake, Gentoo and Debian all have magnificant communities and you will find ample assistance from people for all of them. Chances are that anything you run into, someone else has *and resolved*, too. Something to keep in mind.

    Good luck and welcome to the club! :)
  • Re:1.0? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by jbrader (697703) <stillnotpynchon@gmail.com> on Sunday January 23, 2005 @11:35PM (#11452480)
    Ubuntu its based on Debian so it's got all that apt goodness but the installer is way easier to use and the community (ubuntulinux.org) is really great. And as a good cherry on top they'll even ship you a pressed cd with the install disk and a live version.
  • Re:Newsworthy? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 23, 2005 @11:51PM (#11452561)
    Simply remove the "Funny" category from the frontpage in your options. It seems you already removed it from your sense of humour.
  • by The Cisco Kid (31490) * on Sunday January 23, 2005 @11:57PM (#11452592)
    Why not take their money selling them ads on a site where the users will never beleive their hype? OSDN gets money, MS gets nothing. Sounds like a good deal to me.
  • Re:Many years (Score:2, Insightful)

    by koko775 (617640) on Monday January 24, 2005 @12:03AM (#11452626)
    Uh, no. I don't believe Slashdot posts up a lot of original or complete stories. It's a *discussion forum* as evidenced by the fact that "stories" are posted with links to other stories and there's a HUGE amount of space for comments. Slashdot is for discussion. Discuss.
  • by dioscaido (541037) on Monday January 24, 2005 @12:46AM (#11452879)
    Do they expect their employees to laugh

    I laughed. At first I laughed because I wasn't at the company meeting, so I thought the commercial was real and quite ridiculous. After I found out the truth, I laughed because it was clever -- and hey, how many CEOs are willing to make fun of themselves like that. Now, I laugh because slashdot fell for it, like I did.

    Then again, being on the inside of a company that fulfills me intellectually with a dizzying variety of possible projects to work for, almost daily seminars on one topic or another, and the knowledge that my code will be run by millions of people, might make me a little more ready to have a good time and laugh.

    /if the parent isn't flamebait, then neither am I, right? :)
  • Ye gods... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by breakpoint8088 (793374) <breakpoint AT runbox DOT com> on Monday January 24, 2005 @01:48AM (#11453153)
    I take it all back. Whatever Ballmer's getting paid, he's earned it. Cripes. I wonder how many more pieces of embarrassing, early-career moments are out there, their stars secretly hoping they are lost forever, but in fact just waiting to surface on the vast expanse of the Internet... ...enough to support Compfused, et al, it seems.
  • by betelgeuse68 (230611) on Monday January 24, 2005 @02:19AM (#11453261)
    Sorry anonymous, it wasn't that. It was Lotus betting on OS/2. People's short memory forget that OS/2 was codeveloped by Microsoft alongside IBM. When OS/2 sales failed to materialize Microsoft persisted with its Windows development efforts. When Windows 3.s sales rocketed, so did Microsoft business apps because at that point in time, Lotus et al were way behind the curve. They had simply figured Windows 3.x was just another OS/2 from Microsoft and it wouldn't go anywhere. They were wrong. By the time Lotus and other companies like WordPefect released Windows (which had become wildly popular) products, they were seriously behind Microsoft. The rest as they say is history.

    -M
  • Re:It all fits... (Score:1, Insightful)

    by bonch (38532) on Monday January 24, 2005 @02:56AM (#11453384)
    That's because it's not really an ad. Just an internal company joke. This is the second time Slashdot has fallen for an anti-Microsoft joke from a submitter. First, the fake "Teen Beat" magazine story, and now this "ad."
  • by nathanh (1214) on Monday January 24, 2005 @03:25AM (#11453490) Homepage
    Then again, being on the inside of a company that fulfills me intellectually with a dizzying variety of possible projects to work for, almost daily seminars on one topic or another, and the knowledge that my code will be run by millions of people, might make me a little more ready to have a good time and laugh.

    Sure, but how does it feel to be on the inside of a company that is considered untrustworthy by IT experts the world over, that is reknowned for producing second-rate low quality software, that is famous for undermining competitors through illegal deals and threats rather than technical proficiency, and is without doubt the laughing stock of the industry?

    You know, for all the brains and money that Microsoft has at its command, it amazes me that you guys continue to produce such crap.

    /if the parent isn't flamebait, then neither am I, right? :)

    Amateur.

  • by seanadams.com (463190) * on Monday January 24, 2005 @03:30AM (#11453508) Homepage
    Do I miss those days? Not a chance. [...] If you thought dialup today is bad, try operating on the common standard of the day, 1200 baud modems, as in 120 characters per second, as in, yes it took several seconds to fill an 80x25 text screen which most people had in the form of MS-DOS (forget GUI desktops, they weren't common place for quite some time to come).

    Wow, technology must have been really boring for you back then.

    I remember thinking "HOLY CRAP a whole page a text sent across the country in less time than it takes to read it??? This is going to change everything!!!" and "wow it can draw stuff on the screen" and "wow it can make sounds" and "wow I can hook up a relay here and control the lights!".

    I'm glad you're finally content with the state of things.

    The rest of us are just as thrilled as ever and we're going to keep pushing ahead.
  • by cooldev (204270) on Monday January 24, 2005 @04:20AM (#11453686)

    That is only one more reason not to work for Microsoft. Do they expect their employees to laugh? Like the post just after this one, I felt sorry for him. It's embarassing.

    rbanffy, a while back you made the following statement. Have your forgotten?

    One should never take himself or the world too seriously. Fundamentalists do it and we can all see what the consequences are.

    Spoof videos are a tradition at Microsoft, both company-wide and within individual teams. Some are better than others, and they're all somewhat cheesy, but they're usually a good icebreaker and it's refreshing to see executives, management, and fellow employees willing to poke a little bit of fun at themselves. Quite often they involve inside jokes, and a better understanding of the personalities of the people in the video, so I guess it's not that surprising when they occasionally leak and people outside Microsoft don't get the joke.

    Regardless, it helps keep employees from taking themselves too seriously.

    Judging by a lot of /. comments, people here would be well advised to take your original advice. The religious ferocity that they defend open source and bash Microsoft and other entities that don't adhere to their world view -- even over silly things like spoof videos -- is rather... unhealthy.

  • by Zarhan (415465) on Monday January 24, 2005 @05:35AM (#11453878)
    What really makes it a great documentary is that it's as entertaining as it is interesting. Not an easy thing at all to do given the subject matter but Cringely pulls it off in spades.

    The only bad thing about is that there, IMHO, should be a chapter about "home computing", maybe alongside part 2 or as an additional notice. Now it only touches Apple I and II - but it really does not take note of the mad rush when *everyone* and his dog had their own home computer. Survivors were Commodore Vic-20 and C64, Amstrad, Spectrum and (in Japan and Finland :)) MSX. Last "home computers" before PC took over were Atari ST and Amiga, but Cringely missed them all.
  • by Hatta (162192) on Monday January 24, 2005 @05:48AM (#11453910) Journal
    You misunderstand my argument. I was not arguing that the guy from London and the guy from Liverpool must sound exactly the same. Far from it. My point was that even though there are clear and well defined distinctions, multiple accents (or fruits) may be justifiably lumped together based on their similarities.

    It is plainly not the case that these accents are "completely different". They are after all all speaking the same language. Even if your well trained ear finds the comparison ludicrous, an untrained ear won't pick up on those differences.

    For example. To a trained apple eater a Red Delicious is "completely different" from a Granny Smith. One's sweet, the other's tart. One's mealy, the other is firm. Yet any 5 year old can tell they're both apples.

    So yes, the OP was ignorant when he said "british accent", but there's nothing wrong with that. There's so much information in the world that everyone is ignorant about almost everything. Have you ever complained about a help-desker with an indian accent? Did it ever occur to you that in a country as big and as old as india there will be many different dialects and accents? Can you distinguish between a Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Colombian, and Chilean accents? Can you tell which borough a New Yorker is from just from his accent? No? Well, that's ignorance.

    But it's not stupidity. Stupidity is an inability to understand things. Like the fact that distinct things can have similarities.
  • Re:sheesh... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by X0563511 (793323) on Monday January 24, 2005 @05:51AM (#11453916) Homepage Journal
    This is why i believe "flamebait" moderation should be +/-0, rather than -1.

    Why?

    A very good point can be very controversial, or against the grain. Why should that be punished?

    What, are the geeks trying to conform to something?
  • by mattgreen (701203) on Monday January 24, 2005 @08:28AM (#11454288)
    Good call! Maybe someone will read this and realize there is more to this world than open source software.

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