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What You'll Wish You'd Known 798

sheck writes "Eminent computer scientist, author, painter, and dot-com millionaire, Paul Graham has written down the things he wishes somebody had told him when he was in high school in What You'll Wish You'd Known, suggesting, among other things, that students treat school like a day job, working on interesting projects to avoid what he has found to be the most common regret among adults of their high school days: wasting time."
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What You'll Wish You'd Known

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 21, 2005 @12:13PM (#11432530)
    Harvard tries to make up for it by giving away [chronicle.com] good grades to practically everyone [commondreams.org].
  • Re:Einstein (Score:3, Informative)

    by Henrik S. Hansen ( 775975 ) <hsh@member.fsf.org> on Friday January 21, 2005 @12:19PM (#11432600) Homepage
    I remember reading that Einstein was considered a "slow learner" back in school
    Urban legend. Einstein was an outstanding student.

    From Wikipedia:

    Though he built models and mechanical devices for fun, he was considered a slow learner, possibly due to dyslexia, simple shyness, or the significantly rare and unusual structure of his brain (as seen following his death). He later credited his development of the theory of relativity to this slowness, saying that by pondering space and time later than most children, he was able to apply a more developed intellect. Another, more recent, theory about his mental development is that he suffered from Asperger's syndrome, a disorder related to autism.
  • Paul G has a companion essay to this new one you've got to check out:

    Why Nerds Are Unpopular [paulgraham.com]

    His old essay explains why high school sucks. This new one explains what you can do about it.
  • by SoTuA ( 683507 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @12:26PM (#11432677)
    the self-taught have a better skillset at picking up new skillsets when the pressure is on, they're more willing to and capable of learning by experimentation, they tend to be far more flexible and diverse in their abilities and they're are often more motivated to try out new solutions.

    And they are the same ones who will leave you horrible code, because they learned from web examples instead of a solid base. (real life case: mantain legacy app created by self-taught genius: a few thousands of lines of java, in ONE CLASS, with scores of static fields and static methods)

    My point? The skills you say are the property of the self-taught can be taught. At my school, we get battered with two solid years of advanced math and physics (it's an engineering school, after a common base of math-physics-and-spices you go to your area of interest, be it CS or structural engineering or pure math or chemical engineering or whatever) that teach you how to approach problems. In this market, the alumni of my school are known for just the traits you describe (pick up things easily, not afraid of unorthodox solutions, etc.)

    Sorry, my experience with self-taught people isn't as good as yours :)

  • Re:get a Roth IRA (Score:3, Informative)

    by John Harrison ( 223649 ) <johnharrison@@@gmail...com> on Friday January 21, 2005 @12:44PM (#11432903) Homepage Journal
    The principle being start as early as you can and keep saving rather than start early and stop quickly. You are right in that at a 7% rate the person who invested $108,000 beats the person who invested $9,000.
  • by 91degrees ( 207121 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @01:17PM (#11433233) Journal
    Return On Investment. i.e. You will be well rewarded for it.
  • by Usquebaugh ( 230216 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @01:18PM (#11433248)
    Edison contributed very little, his staff however contributed hugely and have never been given the credit.
  • by Ubergrendle ( 531719 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @01:21PM (#11433289) Journal
    Assuming that you were married for an extended period of time (5-10-15 years?) after you first met her, I'd argue that you probably had the biggest influence over her character and personality during that timespan. So if she turned into a b*tch, you might want to look into the mirror. If she was nice before you met her, and she was a b*tch when you left her, what's the variable?

  • by Jherek Carnelian ( 831679 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @02:03PM (#11433713)
    Needless to say we all knew that the rich kids at the private school down the road were being taught how to hire losers, or how to stay rich, so there was never any real mystery as to why things were the way they were, but I still feel sorry for my classmates.

    I went to a rich-kid high-school on scholarship - the kind where parents from all across the country (and for that matter, the world) send their kids to and pay top dollar for the privilege. They weren't teaching anything like that and we did not have a high-school version of skull and bones either.

    But there was no "career counseling" - everyone was expected to go to college, we even had alums officially come back and tell us what to expect from college. The only real difference from the public schools (american-style "public" not british-style) was the much higher quality and intensity of academics (class on saturday, etc).
  • by LWATCDR ( 28044 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @03:39PM (#11434840) Homepage Journal
    The US peaking is not here or there. It is not even true. The US's standard of living is better now than in the 50s, 60s, or 70s. It is just that a lot of the rest of the world has caught up and improved so the US does not stand out as much.
    Take a look at some of the old TV shows from the 60s and you will see people talking about how they miss the simpler times. How things where better. And of course the We fought Hitler so these dang long haired kids can do this?
    Honestly in most towns you can still let your kids trick or treat by themselves. I had kids come to my house this year.
    If you think of all that we have today vs then, things are better. The environment is actually cleaner in the US. You do not hear about rivers catching fire anymore. Racism has decreased. You do not see the Army going in so African American children can go to school. BTW for the record that was a Republican president that sent in the army. Most people don't give Ike the credit for ending segregation he deserves. The fact that it is talked about and that some words have become words you just do not say in polite company is another good sign.
    Yes things are getting better. Just not fast enough and not soon enough.

  • Upwind (Score:2, Informative)

    by EduardoTheBastard ( 634008 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @03:55PM (#11435019) Journal
    Apparently basic aeronautics was not one of the things he has a curiosity about.

    Sailing into the wind is actually a way to increase altitude, since airplanes have a little thing I like to call "lift", which increases the faster the air moves over the wings.

    This is of course not really relevant to the point he was trying to make, but it is still better not to use an outright false statement for an analogy.

  • Re:Einstein (Score:3, Informative)

    by the eric conspiracy ( 20178 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @04:34PM (#11435465)
    From his biographers [audiblox2000.com]

    The popular image that men of eminence are learning disabled promotes an aura of romanticism around the learning disabilities (LD) field. Albert Einstein, arguably the greatest scientist of all time, is usually at the top of the list of famous dyslexics.

    According to LD lore Einstein failed to talk until the age of four, the result of a language disability. It is also claimed that Einstein could not read until the age of nine. To strengthen their case LD proponents point to such facts that Einstein failed his first attempt at entrance into college and lost three teaching positions in two years.

    While this makes a nice story, this widely believed notion is false, according to Ronald W. Clark's comprehensive biography of Einstein, and according to Subtle is the Lord: The Science and Life of Albert Einstein, a biography by Abraham Pais (Oxford University Press, 1982).

    Pais states that although his family had initial apprehensions that he might be backward because of the unusually long time before he began to talk, Einstein was speaking in whole sentences by some point between age two and three years. According to Clark, a far more plausible reason for his relatively late speech development is "the simpler situation suggested by Einstein's son Hans Albert, who says that his father was withdrawn from the world even as a boy." Whether one accepts this interpretation, other information helps us to judge Einstein's language abilities after he began to speak.

    Einstein entered school at the age of six, and against popular belief did very well. When he was seven his mother wrote, "Yesterday Albert received his grades, he was again number one, his report card was brilliant." At the age of twelve Einstein was reading physics books. At thirteen, after reading the Critique of Pure Reason and the work of other philosophers, Einstein adopted Kant as his favorite author. About this time he also read Darwin. Pais states, "the widespread belief that he was a poor student is unfounded."

    FAILING HIS COLLEGE ENTRANCE EXAMS

    True, Einstein did not pass the college exam the first time he took it. However, aside from being only sixteen, two years below the usual age, the plain fact was he did not study for it. His father wanted his son to follow a technical occupation, a decision Einstein found difficult to confront directly. Consequently, as he later admitted, he avoided following the "unbearable" path of a "practical profession" by not preparing himself for the test.

    It is also true that, after graduating from the university, Einstein had difficulty finding a post. This was mainly because his independent, intellectually rebellious nature made him, in his own words, "a pariah" in the academic community. One professor told him, "You have one fault; one can't tell you anything."

    Also true is that Einstein went through three jobs in a short time, but not because of a learning disability. His first job was as a temporary research assistant, the second as temporary replacement for a professor who had to serve a two-month term in the army. Clark remarks that it is "difficult to discover but easy to imagine" why Einstein held his third job, as a teacher in a boarding school, for only a few months: "Einstein's ideas of minimum routine and minimum discipline were very different from those of his employer."

  • by ModOut ( 628373 ) on Friday January 21, 2005 @09:12PM (#11438019) Journal
    hey did you read paul's book?...
    hackers and painters [paulgraham.com] goes over all the time management and drive and time/money and worth issues of small to large businesses

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