Trillian 3.0 Released 392
Octagon Most writes "Cerulean Studios has released Trillian Pro 3.0 which is still interacting with AIM, Yahoo, MSN instant messagers with impunity. It has a cool new Instant Lookup feature which links to Wikipedia, and a serverless messaging mode using Rendezvous. The free version is now Trillian Basic 3.0. Trillian is still Windows only, and if you don't like the FAQ response regarding Linux and Mac support let 'em know."
Trillian is nice, but gaim has cross platform supp (Score:3, Informative)
Hmmm... (Score:1, Informative)
GAIM (Score:2, Informative)
Is there a point to free Trillian anymore? I'm not knocking it (much..), I did use it once upon a time and tbh it was very good, nice eye candy too, but since finding GAIM I haven't looked back.
nbiar
Missing from the FAQ (Score:1, Informative)
"No."
Missing text is:
"Is there a better option than Trillian for this support?"
"Yes, it's called GAIM -- http://gaim.sourceforge.net"
No need for Trillian on Mac OS X (Score:2, Informative)
Trillian user for life (Score:2, Informative)
I've been using Trillian Pro for a few months, and Pro 3 since the alpha version was released, and I absolutly love it. The tabs are much better than GAIM's, and I can have multipul tabs, for my friends, family, IRC, or just one huge one if thats what I want.
The one thing that trillian totaly owns gaim in, is it's plugins. They are so awesome, and offered free by Trillian. The spellchecker is something i've needed for so long (as i'm sure you can tell).:-P
Anyways, before you go and bash Trillian because it costs money, look at all the features you are getting.
Re:Ill come back... (Score:1, Informative)
Ever try typing Japanese? (Score:3, Informative)
[end rant]
miranda! (Score:3, Informative)
- Windows/wine only
but it is:
- GPLed software
- its also free as infree beer
and it is even more powerful than trillian
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Re:Trillian is nice, but gaim has cross platform s (Score:3, Informative)
Trillian 3.0 includes a Basic (free) and Pro (not free) version. The basic version feels very much like 1.0 Pro, with the odd feature from 2.0 Pro. They're done a fair amount of updating with useful little features, and they run from the same codebase now.
Re:Gaim (Score:3, Informative)
1. Its simple.
2. It auto-updates now with 3.0
3. Very customizeable
4. Great plugin support
5. Feature rich
6. Fast/Efficient
7. Well known
I can go on and on. I use trillian for the above reasons and the superb support and almost up to the minute fixes for bugs/network changes and such.
There is a reason you pay for software or use the free variants thereof. The service trillian offers ontop of a great IM client is worth the cause.
Use Miranda. (Score:2, Informative)
Miranda is open source.
Miranda seamlessly imports contact lists from Y!,ICQ and MSN.
Miranda can use Y!,MSN,ICQ,IRC,AIM,Jabber and loads more.
Miranda can run it all in a single nice window.
Miranda has fully customisable skins and icons.
Miranda has no adverts, ever.
Miranda has plug-ins galore...
Some of my favourite plugins are -
CAPS_LOCK flasher - incoming message? Your keyboard lights flash.
'WUMF' -Who is using my files? - Popup saying who accesses your files on a network and when, and will log all of this information.
Postit notes and reminders.
There are many more plugins.
Miranda is totally free, is open source, and simply is better than Trillian, and even Gaim.
Download it, no spyware, no ad-ware from http://www.miranda-im.org/ [miranda-im.org]
Re:But it's not Open Source... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:But it's not Open Source... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Use Miranda. (Score:5, Informative)
So does Trillian
Miranda can run it all in a single nice window.
So does Trillian
Miranda has fully customisable skins and icons.
So does Trillian.
Miranda has no adverts, ever.
Neither does Trillian (both free and pro)
Miranda has plug-ins galore...
Trillian has plenty of plugins, and most of them are actually useful. The whole list of Miranda's plugins is not only scary, but a vast majority of them are completely mundane.
Miranda is totally free, is open source, and simply is better than Trillian, and even Gaim.
Trillian also has a totally free version. Granted it's not open source, but why should we hold that against them? They've also been known to help out: when the folks at Trillian figured out a bug with the Yahoo! IM connection stuff, they sent the fix to the folks at gaim.
If you really want to compare things, the 'out of the box' experience in Trillian is far superior to that of Miranda. I recall spending an hour on Miranda a couple of months ago to get it to look/work just right, and it still ended up looking ugly as sin. On the other hand, all I need to do is install Trillian, and a vast majority of these 'plugins' that Miranda needs are already built in.
Just Upgraded (Score:2, Informative)
First of all, the skin support is absolutely horrible. The last updated skin is from January 2004. My trillian 2.0 skin works fine although the some of the new options really ruin its look.
After a bit of fiddling around, I got it back to to the good ol' look that I really liked (minimalistic).
By default, ALL the IM protocols are disabled. This means you have to go in and enable them, which I found to be a little annoying for an expert user. Although a beginner would not find it a lot more complex.
One of the great features of defining the size in pixels has been disabled which i really enjoyed. The main reason is because with that feature, you can just define a size and all your windows will be the same size.
The tabbed windows are a great addition, but i'm more of a fan of individual windows.
Overall, a quick looks shows great addition and bugfixes. I'll try using it for now, but I may revert to 2.0 in the future if things dont go smoothly.
Re:No Mac/Linux Support (Score:5, Informative)
I develop Mac OS X software in my spare time, and I can tell you flat out that Trillian would violate the Aqua Design Guidelines six ways from Sunday unless completely reworked, just for starters. (Of course, a depressing number of Macintosh applications also do, but still.) And for a small development team, trying to keep a single code tree in sync across multiple platforms without making it suffer overall, would be hard; that's something far easier for an OSS project. We
Honestly, Trillian's designed not for the power-users who want to get down and dirty with every little aspect of an IM protocol, or for OSS activists. It's designed, as has been noted, more for Joe Average; this is why Trillian 3.0 is made to look and feel more like a Windows XP application in the preferences system and whatnot. And to some extent, that userbase tends to be more prominent on Windows.
For those who are really into OSS or are on Linux, Sean and the others who work on it have made a great app in Gaim. And for those who are on Mac OS X, Adium X is pretty kickass. Heck, even the new iChat in Tiger is pretty straightforward for Joe Average Mac User.
It's not like there's some Highlander-esque 'there can be only one!' situation with instant messaging clients. You'll even notice we at Cerulean are on good terms with the Gaim team; when Yahoo locked everyone out last time, we deciphered the new login protocol and donated it to Gaim (and to Adium as a result). You can find other instances in the Gaim changelog of code donated from Trillian; it's certainly not like we're out to kill open source and crush all opposition or something. ("I am Trillian MacLeod of the clan MacLeod, and I've come to take your head developer!")
Gaim and Trillian are made to fill a different niches. If one's right for you, great! Doesn't mean the other one isn't right for other people.
Re: Trillian is nice, but gaim has cross platform (Score:3, Informative)
Re:But it's not Open Source... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:But it's not Open Source... (Score:3, Informative)
Did you try Miranda?
I can tell you that Miranda serves me 3 years already... No single glitch. Well.. not really
Go Miranda.
GAIM rules too
Re:No Mac/Linux Support (Score:3, Informative)
Like I said, periodically we re-examine the possibility of ports, but in all honesty, it's not that likely to happen. Even starting from scratch wouldn't help that much; it's still a small team, and maintaining a Mac OS X tree, a Linux tree and a Windows tree would be a huge headache.
It's likely that one or all would suffer; you'll notice most cross-platform projects tend to aim for a common denominator. Take, for instance, Thunderbird; Thunderbird is a great app (and under Windows, my first choice in mail clients), but most Mac users I know don't use Thunderbird. Why? Because Thunderbird doesn't do things Mac-ishly. Thunderbird doesn't integrate with the system spellchecker framework. It doesn't integrate with the system Address Book framework.
It's really hard to design a cross-platform product of any kind and have it actually feel
Of course, there already
Seriously, if you're really stuck right now for a multi-network option under OS X, I strongly recommend checking out Adium; Adam Iser and his team have built a really good client that integrates well with OS X, and it's worth at least looking at.