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GIMP 2.2 Splash Screen Competition 257

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the your-work-in-lights dept.
Lalakis writes "The GIMP 2.2 Splash Contest is now officially open! Competition entries should be attached to the live.gnome.org wiki before midnight next Sunday. Submit your work and get the glory (there may be a small prize sponsored, too)."
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GIMP 2.2 Splash Screen Competition

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  • by stecoop (759508) * on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @11:55AM (#10953076) Journal
    The only good Splash Screen is a dead one.

    How about having no splash screen as an option and let everyone else stare at the pretty picture for N seconds. I have so many windows open that I don't need to have something else occupying my desktop. To me, splash screens are annoying like browser popups - which I haven't seen in months thanks Mozzy that also has the alias & shortcut command option of nosplash.
    • How many windows? (Score:2, Insightful)

      by nurb432 (527695)
      How many windows can you have open when your desktop is just starting?
      • by cocoa moe (530541)
        I guess even hardcore artists wouldnt fire up GIMP when the windowmanager starts up. Emacs could have a splash screen though. Wait - It does!

        That's the proof! VI may be e(vi)l but Emacs is worse.
    • by Meostro (788797) * on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:00PM (#10953125) Homepage Journal
      As per the link in the mighty $ [slashdot.org]'s post below, start gimp with
      gimp -s
      to disable the spalsh screen completely.
      • by stecoop (759508) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:02PM (#10953158) Journal
        There should be a universal standard for all application in the development community where the command --nosplash will disable splash screens.
        • by shufler (262955) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:08PM (#10953212) Homepage
          An environment variable would be a better option, because really -- if you disable the splash screen on one program, don't you also want to disable it on all programs?
          • True... but the problem with trying to go with an environmental variable for such an option is at what point does it stop?

            There are plenty of application level settings that could be offloaded to the environment with envars permitting more uniform settings on a system... but the standardization of even a portion of such possibilities would be a nightmare. Better to leave each app alone as their own island.
            • Gee, its too bad Linux doesn't have a single, consolidated tree-based system for storing type-specific environment variables. It would be handy for registryng such things.

              j/k.

              One flat file per app is fine, thanks. Alternately, the Windows registry wouldn't be so bad if it was easy to find keys related to program X or Y (rather than its sluggish search) and the damn thing had some form of docstrings. If Python has tought me one thing, its that you can never have too many docstrings.
              • What do you have to search for? Keys related to any program will generally be stored in one of two places:

                HKLM\Software\(publisher)\(program name)
                or
                HKCU\Software\(publisher)\(program name)

                So my personal high scores for Hamsterball [miniclip.com] are stored in

                HKCU\Software\Raptisoft\Hamsterball

                Sometimes there are settings in both, one set is for LOCAL MACHINE (global) settings, the other is for CURRENT USER (custom) settings. If you have to search somewhere else to find your settings, the programmer screwed it up to
                • What about old type associations? Don't want to leave those pointing to an old location if you move the program.
                • Correction... keys to any program SHOULD be stored in those two places. Unfortunately, a lot of programmers (especially those who write malicious applications) love to hide those registry entries. I'm guessing you've never had to remove Norton Antivirus manually have you?
                  • I have tried to remove NAV / SAV manually. I removed all the files I could find, every registry key matching SAV, NAV, cc, norton, sym, etc. and still wound up with an un-installable and un-uninstallable setup of the software. This has happened to me on several machines.
                  • They're supposed to be there, but if they're not, it doesn't make a difference how they're organized. Would you rather search every key in the registry (mine's about 10MB), or search the contents of every file on the disk to find your hidden settings?

                    As far as malicious apps go, that's why I have AdAware and HijackThis, along with StartupList [spywareinfo.com]. I think it's ridiculous that there are something like 50 different places that you can inject a program on Windows startup (run StartupList /complete to list them)
          • Not necessarily. I don't want a splash screen for something like a web browser which loads quickly, but for something like Photoshop, I find it helpful to have the splash screen to let me know that the program is, in fact, launching. It's even better when it shows progress information.
    • by oexeo (816786) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:07PM (#10953203)
      > The only good Splash Screen is a dead one.

      They do have a purpose though, they hide the fact the program takes forever to initialize
      • A status bar or a progress window would serve better than any nice picture.

        Why not delegate splash screens to a special daemon which can be decorated with skins, docked into the KDE/GNOME panel or just deactivated?

        • You just need to start GIMP with the --no-splash command-line option to suppress the splash screen. Or better yet, edit gimp.desktop so it works when GIMP is started from the menu. Since GIMP supports startup notification [freedesktop.org], your desktop can do whatever it wants to do to inform you about the startup.
      • > The only good Splash Screen is a dead one.

        They do have a purpose though, they hide the fact the program takes forever to initialize

        Try using
        gimp --no-data --no-splash --no-fonts

        it is a whole lot faster but has some downsides

        Not preloading data (patterns gradients etc) will break some scripts
        Not preloading fonts will break some scripts.

        I have no idea why they think a slow startup is acceptable and do not wait to load thing on-demand when they are actually needed.

    • Actually, some splash screens are good for something. Think about Java programs that have to be runtime compiled, they usually take long times to load. In a case like that, a splash screen is extremely useful.
    • Splash screens were developed to show loading of application, and branding of application.

      I hate the M$ office splashscreens [haha been a looong time since I saw a M$ splashscreen!, the open officeone is required at the startup time (hopefully 1.5 will stop that) is exagerrated because all office startup dlls are precached.

      If you use the open office starter this helps too.

      Anyway, In Korea, only old people have so many windows open.
    • I think the splash screen should say.

      'Want this application to load faster?, click here to donate'
    • You must not start the GIMP much. Otherwise you would immediately know that the only reason the splash screen is there is to show you a progression as it starts up. It isn't there as a time waster, it doesn't keep you from working any longer than you would have to wait if it wasn't there. Having something pretty to see while it is telling you its startup progress is perfectly fine.
  • Hmm (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I wonder how many submissions of the Goatse guy they'll recieve.
    • by mirko (198274)
      I don't think the parent was off topic : this is Slashdot and there are trolls who may profit from this open Wiki page so, be sure there will be many flavoured submissions, including the goatse, tubgirl, lemon party, GNAA manifestoes...
      It's a serious question and even if it could be seen as either frightening or funny, I do NOT think it's off topic.
  • GIMP Splash Screens (Score:4, Informative)

    by the_mighty_$ (726261) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @11:56AM (#10953094)
    You can find out more about GIMP splash screens [gimp.org]
  • by hsmith (818216) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @11:57AM (#10953095)
    if i do it in Photoshop?
  • by Anonymous Coward
    The Gimp's asleep

    Well I guess you better wake him up then
  • Spash Archive (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Ford Prefect (8777) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:00PM (#10953130) Homepage
    Something I've liked in the past from compiling development versions of the Gimp are the development splash screens [gimp.org]. Frequently containing giant photos of bugs (for squashing, obviously), fake news report screengrabs or some other warped aspects of the programmers' humour, they often show that programmer art isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    Although a couple of them were astoundingly crude - but I think that was intentional. :-)
  • by CodeWanker (534624) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:00PM (#10953136) Journal
    Goatse! Goatse! Goatse!
  • by Xetrov (267777) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:02PM (#10953149)
    That animated topic icon sent me through a rollercoaster of emotions:

    1. I was scared - been playing Doom3 all day, I'm a bit jumpy
    2. Denial - I thought I imagined it
    3. Relief - I'm not crazy
    4. Disgust - I just wasted a few minutes of my life describing an emotional journey spawned by a few moving pixels on /.
  • by oexeo (816786) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:02PM (#10953152)
    This competition is great, but maybe a "design GIMP a decent fucking GUI" contest would be better?
    • GIMP Tutorial:
      1) Create image
      2) Right click on image to do anything with it, or use shortcut key (which is shown in the right click menu)

      Done!

      They don't need to emulate photoshop. Just because you're too retarded to learn two different GUIs doesn't mean Gimp's interface is broken. I get everything done with it that I need, with no problems. Granted, they could use a little help with getting their plugins to all be parameterized and provide previews. Other than that Gimp works very well.
    • by jejones (115979)
      Perhaps a good first step towards that would be if people sharing that opinion would post something more informative and detailed than "GIMP UI sux0rs" and "Photoshop UI rules."
  • how about... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by flacco (324089) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:03PM (#10953164)
    ...one that says "*Still* only 8-bit color!"
  • OpenOffice.org (Score:2, Informative)

    by Uukrul (835197)
    OpenOffice.org it's seeking a new Splash Screen too. (Splashscreen for OpenOffice.org 2.0 Wanted [slashdot.org]
    One Splash Screen, two opportunities to win.

    And remeber to make it really evil [slashdot.org].
  • by Anonymous Coward
    "Submit your work and get the glory (there may be a small prize sponsored, too)."

    A Wilbur (The GIMP Mascot) plushie.
  • The ASCII trolls can be on-topic for a change
  • by jejones (115979) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:13PM (#10953251) Journal
    ...could they also ditch the ghastly font the splash screen uses for "the gimp"?
    • I'm sure a good entry could adjust the font and still be accepted.

      Sadly, looking at the entries thus far there is a distincy lack of good entries... don't people realise that half the point of a splash screen image is to at least either represent or showcase the application in question?

      The current entries are all simply photographs slapped onto the template. What rubbish.

      I look forward to revisiting the wiki site in a few days when the real artists amongst the FOSS world have had a crack of the whip, ra
  • I'd prefer to be able to use it while it loads the bigger things like plugins in the background.

    Waiting (about 30 seconds?) is a pain when you only want to edit an 16 pixel icon especially.

    p.s. aren't message boxes also awful too, interrupting work and stealing focus... oh, I had typed more but lost it all after gimp loaded up and changed focus while I was typing and looking at keyboard.
  • by jasonbowen (683345) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:17PM (#10953281)
    first you get the splash screen... then you get the power... then you get the women
  • by scorpionsoft (590852) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:29PM (#10953395)
    Maybe the prize should be a free copy of the GIMP!!??
  • Shouldn't this be a Fark photoshop contest instead?

    [Photoshop] - Create these guys [slashdot.org] a new splash screen. Decent farking GUI to follow.
  • by SpamJunkie (557825) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @12:43PM (#10953554)
    ...is a new name.

    Few management types are going to approve of using a BDSM-themed program no matter how free it is.

    The attempt at making a cute raccoon-like animal the mascot doesn't help. We all know that he's wearing nothing but leather and pain below the neck.
  • When I think about contests and Gimp, I think about
    http://contest.gimp.org/. Was a lot of fun browsing through the entries and submitting work. To bad its now defunc since 1999. Even so its long gone I kind of still miss it, always makes me think of good old times, I guess I am just getting really old...
  • I mean really, what is that brown pointy haired beast anyway? Is it a rat, or some twisted BSD ripoff?
  • by ZackSchil (560462) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @01:42PM (#10954163)
    I made this submission but it was rejected outright.

    My Splash Screen [cthome.net]
  • The contest page [gnome.org] says that the entries must be available under a GPL license. I hope everyone remembers that the GPL requires source to be provided, and that "source" is defined as the preferred form form making modifications to the work. For GIMP-produced images, the source is clearly the .xcf file. That means that either the .xcf file has to always accompany the .png or .jpg version, or at least be on the same FTP or web site, or else there has to be an offer, good for three years, to give the .xcf fil
  • by SharpFang (651121) on Tuesday November 30, 2004 @03:18PM (#10955213) Homepage Journal

    Let me put it simply: Airbrush sucks. I need something better.
    The task is preparing gray-to-heightmap images from photos for later 3D engraving using a CNC engraving machine. I "spray" more white using airbrush where the image in the background is higher, leave dark where the bottom should stay deep. The effect is very neat for small details or simple shapes. But it really sucks when it comes to large areas. The fact that the output is slightly grainy is not that bad - a single pass of blur and the "grains" are gone. Much harder is achieving bigger smoothly curved surfaces - just try to spray a regular flat gray area (using white), it's just as hard as to get a smooth gradient - you get low-depth, several pixels wide depressions, bumps etc that are very hard to remove.
    Regular "gradient" is not an option either - I need shapes much more sophisticated than regular "spherical" or "shapeburst" - maybe something like Bezier curved gradients could help...?

    Any ideas, suggestions?

    (no, don't suggest Photoshop. It does exactly the same.)
  • My vote goes to this gem [gnome.org]

    All in favor? Say "eye"

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