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Hobbit Hole + World Class Fallout Shelter 179

ChaosMt writes "Slashdot has covered buying missile silos before, along with buying old microwave bunkers to provide the ultimate level of data protection. Making your own Hobbit hole has been covered too. Now you can have it all in the best shelter I've ever seen (even beating the Subterranean Fortress) in an undisclosed location outside of Durango, Colorado. It may not be your cup of tea, but it is very impressive to see and compare to your own disaster planning."
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Hobbit Hole + World Class Fallout Shelter

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  • Re:Paranoia (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BoldAC ( 735721 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:30PM (#10228081)
    On a related subject and much more practical...

    Did you know you can get a stormproof room in your house?

    We were recently building a new house and our contractor said for $3k he could make a "safe room" for us.

    I let him do it...

    So when the next hurricane/tornado comes, the only things left in the house will be my family and my servers. :)

    AC
  • by MacBorg ( 740087 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:33PM (#10228094)
    I mean, I've always liked the idea of having a bunker-house, but when it's this nuts, it's a little overboard. And the page-author is full of dung (vis. the follwing quote) "If the phone lines are ever down it will not be possible to get news via the internet." What century are they in?
  • the price... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by bbdd ( 733681 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:56PM (#10228191)
    frankly, i was surprised at the low price, currently offered at $ 495,000. maybe that's high for the area, but for everything you get, that seems like a pretty good deal.
  • by hawkeyeMI ( 412577 ) <brock&brocktice,com> on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:58PM (#10228199) Homepage
    Believe me, the last thing you want is us Americans fleeing to Finland. I'd like to get to northern europe myself, but we'd bring our problems with us.
  • by smartin ( 942 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:00PM (#10228206)
    oop, try this [survivalring.org]
  • by enilnomi ( 797821 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:08PM (#10228230)

    Hmm...chimney disguised as white birch; good thing no one will just look for the smoke!

    Great FUD though. Just when Slammin' Sammy-noia starts to fade, folks can begin worrying about ebola... in Colorado... in the winter!

    Please tell me the owner's illness isn't caused by living cooped up in a semi-sealed environment with no sunlight to work its magic on nasty organizms.

    You want to be absolutely secure? Take up permanent residence in a pine box, located about 6 feet under a headstone that reads "I'm over there -->....

  • by Mr Europe ( 657225 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:12PM (#10228249)
    I feel strongly that it would be more worthwhile to try to remove the cause for a nuclear holocaust than building shelters like this.

    But in US: act in the peace movement and youll probably be judged as a terrorist/communist or something antiamerican.
  • by Ba3r ( 720309 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:26PM (#10228320)
    I agree on the Bunker house, the only problem i ever had with it, though, is the lack of natural light. Every time i see an underground house description (albeit normally they are not as crazy-nutjob as this one), I always wonder if they could use mirrors and fiber-optics to give the underground section of the house alot of natural light...
  • by Riggs E. ( 628638 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:35PM (#10228362)
    For a truly awesome construction alternative, check out http://www.monolithic.com/gallery/homes/ [monolithic.com] Energy efficeint, structurely superior, and highly affordable. Not to mention one helluva conversation piece!
  • by gardyloo ( 512791 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:57PM (#10228450)
    What people have to remember is this:
    Denver, CO is set up to be the next Washington, D.C., in case the latter ever gets wiped out. Norad is based in Colorado Springs. Both of these potential targets are quite far to the northeast of Durango. The closest strategic targets I can think of are really Denver, Colorado Springs, Kirkland AFB in Albuquerque, and Los Alamos, White Sands, etc. in NM, and maybe some proving grounds and bases in Utah and Nevada. Durango is NOT a target, but it's kind of in the middle of these other, good targets. You'd expect to get a bit of fallout there from a large-scale attack. Having a fallout shelter is GOOD, I suppose, if you're worried about that.

    In addition, Durango is one of these "new Aspens", where college students hang out, there are a lot of older locals (ranchers, Navajo, people who showed up before the '70's, mainly), and so forth, but there are a LOT of VERY rich people around (WalMart heir rich; 4th richest in the US rich), who can afford these kind of eccentric houses (and seem to get off on living in this gorgeous place, and ruin the whole atmosphere at the same time because then no one else can afford to live there ).
    Finally, a lot of people hunt in Durango (and all over the mountain West). It's the kind of thing where you get a few days off in the fall to bag an elk or bear. So the guy's comment about elk hindquarters, although strange to a lot of people, are very common to people from the Rockies.
  • by maxpublic ( 450413 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @04:22PM (#10229213) Homepage
    And that means that if you want to buy an underground shelter you have every right to do so, and fuck the people who insist that you should do other things with your money.

    It's *your* money, not the money of these socialist-wannabes. Screw them and the horse they rode in on.

    Besides, the idea of a fortified home seems pretty neat, even if relatively useless. If I had the money I'd certain do something along these lines. Talk about the ultimate in toys....

    Max
  • Re:Disguised Chimney (Score:2, Interesting)

    by enilnomi ( 797821 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @10:36PM (#10231870)
    > 1. It won't be in operation all the time
    Granted; but see next
    > 2. Proper combustion doesn't lead to much smoke, but you still need to vent the exhaust, as you need to get rid of the CO2.
    In the "normal" wood-burning world, you've got a couple cords of hardwood seasoning outside and a thermometer on your stack, and it's reasonable to expect 90% of your burns will be low-creosote, low-smoke. But the heat will still be visible (and not just during the day -- take a look around a cold-weather neighborhood during a full moon, and notice all the racoons that gather on rooftops on or near the chimneys ;-). And there'll be a smoke trail on the snow; and there'll be the scent of combustion by-products in the air. And if they *ever* screw up and burn green wood or organic waste, they're gonna stand out like a tree in the desert. You're just not going to heat with wood and be anything close to secret.

    And the chimney itself means you're never going to be secure. Give me a gallon of ammonia, a couple of old towels, and a chimney -- I can drive you out of your semi-sealed house in no more than a few hours. It's even easier when the chimneytop is at ground level ;-) The possibilities are endless...grenade down the chimney; dynamite down the chimney; bio-agent down the chimney; John Tesh CDs beamed down the chimney; etc.

    Yeah, my reaction was broad...but I think people like this, who seem to genuinely think they're getting some kind of shelter against a breakdown-of-civilization by hiding away, are totally nuts. Security through obscurity DOES NOT WORK, right?

    Mind you, I've never experienced the end of the world (except in a Freudian sense ;-), but I've read enough science fiction to take a stab at this... if you want to survive, you'll band together with enough others to form a critical mass that can accomplish two basic tasks: food supply (by farming/hunting/gathering) and security (by defensive layering and communication and lottsa ammo). Your structures will be right out in plain sight, so that no one can approach them "by accident." You'll have big nasty signs telling any and all to stay away, and armed sentries/snipers to give the signs some teeth. Whatever electricity you can generate will be used for powering a telegraph, or HTs, or signal lights...any means of communicating that enable to outflank attackers and screw 'em good. Etc.

    > I'd be more worried about the access road.
    Exactly. Chimney, road, solar grid, animal tracks, worn paths...these people will be lucky to last a month if it all does truly go to hell.
  • by Thadddius_Brinks ( 655453 ) on Monday September 13, 2004 @12:15AM (#10232397)
    it is on highway 550 just north of the NM border. ironically, the guy bought it to weather Y2k ;-) it is fairly impressive though, has two diesel generators with enough battery to last a good week without sun... in case you are worried about the end of the world but think it won't reach DGO. BTW, it would be no good for flooding as it is right next to a river in the mouth of a canyon and wouldn't be safe from roving banditos as it is right next to a major highway that connects western CO to ABQ NM. but then again, maybe he knows something we don't. TB

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