Hobbit Hole + World Class Fallout Shelter 179
ChaosMt writes "Slashdot has covered buying missile silos before, along with buying old microwave bunkers to provide the ultimate level of data protection. Making your own Hobbit hole has been covered too. Now you can have it all in the best shelter I've ever seen (even beating the Subterranean Fortress) in an undisclosed location outside of Durango, Colorado. It may not be your cup of tea, but it is very impressive to see and compare to your own disaster planning."
Re:Paranoia (Score:5, Interesting)
Did you know you can get a stormproof room in your house?
We were recently building a new house and our contractor said for $3k he could make a "safe room" for us.
I let him do it...
So when the next hurricane/tornado comes, the only things left in the house will be my family and my servers.
AC
Paranoid to the extreme... (Score:3, Interesting)
the price... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I'm safer than that guy in his sad cave.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Ark2 School bus bunker (Score:3, Interesting)
This is a joke, right? (Score:1, Interesting)
Hmm...chimney disguised as white birch; good thing no one will just look for the smoke!
Great FUD though. Just when Slammin' Sammy-noia starts to fade, folks can begin worrying about ebola... in Colorado... in the winter!
Please tell me the owner's illness isn't caused by living cooped up in a semi-sealed environment with no sunlight to work its magic on nasty organizms.
You want to be absolutely secure? Take up permanent residence in a pine box, located about 6 feet under a headstone that reads "I'm over there -->....
Remove the cause, not the consequence (Score:4, Interesting)
But in US: act in the peace movement and youll probably be judged as a terrorist/communist or something antiamerican.
Re:Paranoid to the extreme... (Score:3, Interesting)
how about above ground (Score:4, Interesting)
I grew up north of Durango... (Score:5, Interesting)
Denver, CO is set up to be the next Washington, D.C., in case the latter ever gets wiped out. Norad is based in Colorado Springs. Both of these potential targets are quite far to the northeast of Durango. The closest strategic targets I can think of are really Denver, Colorado Springs, Kirkland AFB in Albuquerque, and Los Alamos, White Sands, etc. in NM, and maybe some proving grounds and bases in Utah and Nevada. Durango is NOT a target, but it's kind of in the middle of these other, good targets. You'd expect to get a bit of fallout there from a large-scale attack. Having a fallout shelter is GOOD, I suppose, if you're worried about that.
In addition, Durango is one of these "new Aspens", where college students hang out, there are a lot of older locals (ranchers, Navajo, people who showed up before the '70's, mainly), and so forth, but there are a LOT of VERY rich people around (WalMart heir rich; 4th richest in the US rich), who can afford these kind of eccentric houses (and seem to get off on living in this gorgeous place, and ruin the whole atmosphere at the same time because then no one else can afford to live there ).
Finally, a lot of people hunt in Durango (and all over the mountain West). It's the kind of thing where you get a few days off in the fall to bag an elk or bear. So the guy's comment about elk hindquarters, although strange to a lot of people, are very common to people from the Rockies.
it's a free country, or so I'm told (Score:3, Interesting)
It's *your* money, not the money of these socialist-wannabes. Screw them and the horse they rode in on.
Besides, the idea of a fortified home seems pretty neat, even if relatively useless. If I had the money I'd certain do something along these lines. Talk about the ultimate in toys....
Max
Re:Disguised Chimney (Score:2, Interesting)
Granted; but see next
> 2. Proper combustion doesn't lead to much smoke, but you still need to vent the exhaust, as you need to get rid of the CO2.
In the "normal" wood-burning world, you've got a couple cords of hardwood seasoning outside and a thermometer on your stack, and it's reasonable to expect 90% of your burns will be low-creosote, low-smoke. But the heat will still be visible (and not just during the day -- take a look around a cold-weather neighborhood during a full moon, and notice all the racoons that gather on rooftops on or near the chimneys
And the chimney itself means you're never going to be secure. Give me a gallon of ammonia, a couple of old towels, and a chimney -- I can drive you out of your semi-sealed house in no more than a few hours. It's even easier when the chimneytop is at ground level
Yeah, my reaction was broad...but I think people like this, who seem to genuinely think they're getting some kind of shelter against a breakdown-of-civilization by hiding away, are totally nuts. Security through obscurity DOES NOT WORK, right?
Mind you, I've never experienced the end of the world (except in a Freudian sense
> I'd be more worried about the access road.
Exactly. Chimney, road, solar grid, animal tracks, worn paths...these people will be lucky to last a month if it all does truly go to hell.
now in a disclosed location (Score:2, Interesting)