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Hobbit Hole + World Class Fallout Shelter 179

ChaosMt writes "Slashdot has covered buying missile silos before, along with buying old microwave bunkers to provide the ultimate level of data protection. Making your own Hobbit hole has been covered too. Now you can have it all in the best shelter I've ever seen (even beating the Subterranean Fortress) in an undisclosed location outside of Durango, Colorado. It may not be your cup of tea, but it is very impressive to see and compare to your own disaster planning."
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Hobbit Hole + World Class Fallout Shelter

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  • Re:Paranoia (Score:3, Informative)

    by toetagger1 ( 795806 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:24PM (#10228044)

    I just RTFA, and I agree:

    "The truth is, there is a smorgasbord of infectious agents and diseases out there waiting to be released, contracted, and spread - plague, tularemia, SARS, Ebola, Marburg, West Nile virus, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, to name just a few.

    Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is suspected to be passed to humans from cattle and other animals that have Mad Cow Disease. As far as I know, they aren't even sure yet if that is true. Nor is there proof that the diesaes spreads between humans.

  • Article text (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:30PM (#10228079)
    The Ultimate Secure Home

    Home front
    The artificial rock front blends in perfectly with the natural environment

    Some years ago, the owners of this property had a log hunting cabin in another part of Colorado. Beautiful, yes, but the wood construction posed numerous problems. Several "near-miss" incidents made the family realize how vulnerable the cabin was to any number of disasters and threats. A winter storm, which blew the front door open, might have caused the water pipes to freeze and break, flooding both the upper and lower levels, resulting in many thousands of dollars damage, had it not been discovered in time. A forest fire, which started when a tree fell on the above-ground power line leading to the cabin, came frighteningly close to the wood structure and to within just a few feet of the above-ground propane tanks. A hailstorm necessitated a new roof, a new paint job, and major repairs to the siding. The large front glass windows were spared from damage, but nevertheless were extremely vulnerable. And finally, when the cabin was broken into and many valuable antiques were stolen, the owners decided to look for a safer kind of structure for their retreat, and a better, more remote location.

    After spending 2 ½ years studying every kind of alternative home construction, everything from earthships made out of spare tires, to rammed-earth construction, to monolithic domes, they ultimately realized there was only one kind of construction that would afford them the kind of security they wanted: an earth home (made with Formwork's patented thin-shell concrete construction technique). The house they finally built is not just any earth home. It is what has come to be known in the industry as a "secure home." It is an unparalleled model of the ultimate secure home. Its many features will amaze you.

    While the term "secure home" is still relatively new to the general public, this unique segment of the home construction industry has, for the past decade, been growing steadily, albeit slowly. Presently, with the increased threat of major terrorist attacks, many more people than ever before are building secure homes. Also, more contractors and consultants have recently dedicated themselves to the concept of disaster-resistant and self-sufficient residences. It is only with a realistic understanding of the potential for terrorist attacks, and the magnitude of the problems they could cause, that one can truly recognize the value of a secure home.

    This patented steel-reinforced concrete earth sheltered structure, properly called a thin-shell dome, is built to withstand almost any natural or man-made disaster you can name. And that's not just an idle promise. These buildings have withstood tornadoes, hurricanes, and earthquakes - some measuring over 7.0 on the Richter scale - and in every case they have come away with no structural damage at all. Unlike monolithic domes, and all other types of home construction, only Formwork's concrete domes can be completely buried deep underground.

    The house has 2472 square feet, with an additional 800 square feet in the attached 24' x 36' underground garage. The main floor of the house consists of a large living room, two bedrooms, two baths, a kitchen, pantry, and laundry closet. Upstairs is a loft and two multi-purpose storage/sleeping rooms. The house currently has ten beds in seven different rooms. There is lots of additional space for other cots or bedrolls. A 22' long x 6' wide hallway leads to the garage. This hall is lined on one side with 18" deep shelf units, providing a considerable amount of quick-access storage. The other wall of this hall is a convenient place to store larger items, such as skis, bicycles, or a vacuum cleaner, that wouldn't fit on the shelves. Additionally, a large storage attic is found above the garage.

    The living room's high-domed ceiling gives the room an open, spacious feeling. A custom steel stairway leads from the loft to a cupola perched on top of the house. Light from the cupola gives the sa
  • Overboard... (Score:3, Informative)

    by mOoZik ( 698544 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:38PM (#10228120) Homepage
    I really pity these people. They make the Slashdot tinhat-wearing clique look like a group of upstanding, optimistic netizens. Then again, where would these anti-disaster companies be if there weren't such nutjobs running around and confining their families and lives to isolated hobbit-like crapholes? I can see the need for a storm shelter, or a tornado shelter - but those make sense for those who live in vulnerable areas, but sheesh!

  • Google cache (Score:5, Informative)

    by Peter_Pork ( 627313 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:41PM (#10228130)
    The "best shelter" site is already down. You can try Google cache [216.239.39.104]
  • Google Cache (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:42PM (#10228137)
    Google Cache here [64.233.161.104]
  • Re:Secure but ... (Score:5, Informative)

    by dejamatt ( 704418 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:43PM (#10228140)
    Obligatory...

    Coral Cache of Ultimate Secure Home [nyud.net]

  • Re:Paranoia (Score:3, Informative)

    by TheMeuge ( 645043 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @12:47PM (#10228154)
    Actually there is proof. A little while ago, I microepidemic of the Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease broke out when surgeons at a hospital (kill me, but I do not remember where exactly) operated on a person who had advanced neurological problems. They found damaged brain tissue, but the diagnosis was never made. Several years afterwards, patients with CJD started coming in. The final conslusion was that it was transmitted by the medical team who were re-using some of the equipment. The medical equipment was sterilized by autoclave, according to the procedure, but because prions (the objects responsible for CJD) are very stable proteins and contain no genetic material, sterilization at 120C couldn't destroy them. One thing you're right about though - CJD poses no real epidemiological threat at this point. I do agree with the general sentiment - there seems to be a lot of fear-mongering going on. Many people clearly want us to be afraid. The trouble is, they're not totally wrong! Many countries have developed bioweapons, since they are much cheaper and easier to hide than nuclear weapons, and certainly easier to develop. There are dozens of modified versions of the pneumonic plague with engineered resistances to many antibiotics. And let's remember that pneumonic plague is pretty much 100% lethal without adequate treatment. Furthermore, there is no real effective vaccine against it. No one was worried about the Russians using it against the US because the infection would likely spread worldwide before the epidemic would be recognized. But I doubt that the people we're facing now would care. So those who think that the threat of bioterrorism is a joke should probably re-evaluate their view of the world. With this in mind, everyone living in densely populated urban areas should have a plan that all the family members carry, with agreed-on meeting points in case communication is impossible, as well as detailed directions for getting out of the area by foot. This, along with a few gallons of water, some power bars, and a medical kit, are probably not a bad idea.
  • Re:Paranoia (Score:5, Informative)

    by Davak ( 526912 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:04PM (#10228218) Homepage
    I'm a doc but don't hold me to any details. :)

    I remember the story differently... I thought it was transplanted organs, but looking through the journals it looks like we are both right. Hmmm...

    Here is some quotes I can find:
    "Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease is one of the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSE) that has been transmitted between humans and chimpanzees by electroencephalogram electrodes, previously 'sterilized' using ethanol and formaldehyde." -- J Hosp Infect. 2004 Sep;58(1):78-80

    It can be spread through blood transfusions... [bmjjournals.com]

    Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease following corneal transplantation [nih.gov] Same article [corneajrnl.com]

    Davak
  • MIRROR (Score:1, Informative)

    by kmfdmk ( 577142 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @01:16PM (#10228270) Homepage Journal
    The site was down so I thought I'd post a mirror from February.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20040214234814/http://w ww.ultimatesecurehome.com/secure_home.htm [archive.org]
  • by phillymjs ( 234426 ) <slashdot AT stango DOT org> on Sunday September 12, 2004 @02:27PM (#10228625) Homepage Journal
    You're thinking of "The Shelter," [tvtome.com] from the 3rd season of the original Twilight Zone.

    The other poster apparently has in mind "Shelter Skelter," [tvtome.com] from the new Twilight Zone series that aired in the 80's.

    In "The Shelter," everyone knew about the guy's shelter. In "Shelter Skelter," only the guy's wife and small children knew, plus a friend he happened to tell the day the accident happened (who he locked in with him). His wife didn't tell anyone because the guy had become such a survivalist nut that she felt the children were better off growing up without him.

    Both were great episodes.

    ~Philly
  • Re:Paranoia (Score:5, Informative)

    by stienman ( 51024 ) <adavis&ubasics,com> on Sunday September 12, 2004 @02:32PM (#10228642) Homepage Journal
    Typical cheap safe rooms consist of simple 2x4 frame with a layer of 1/2 plywood, then a layer of 16 guage steel.

    A 2x4 at hurricane velocity might breach both the steel and plywood, but it would generally splinter and lose any and all useful energy by the time it gets through - and that's assuming it had enough energy to even make it to the room since it has to go throgh some regular walls/windows/siding/furniture/etc to get to the safe room.

    So yes, such a room can be built cheaply and still have more than adequate protection.

    See what FEMA has to say about safe room construction. [fema.gov] In particular safe rooms cost between $3,000 and $5,000 depending on the type you build and where it is situated. It's much cheaper to build it when the house is built than later, so I can easily see a cost of $3,000 for an average safe room.

    -Adam
  • by kndyer ( 521626 ) <kndyer@@@gmail...com> on Sunday September 12, 2004 @03:38PM (#10228979)
    Here's another pretty cool design. I used to live near things guy. He consistently comes up with weird and wonderful things.
    http://www.williamlishman.com/underground.htm

    He also happens to be the "real" person behind the Fly Away Home story.
    http://www.canoe.ca/JamMoviesToronto96/sep8_flyawa y.html

  • Woah :p (Score:2, Informative)

    by Southpaw018 ( 793465 ) on Sunday September 12, 2004 @06:15PM (#10229995) Journal
    Man, /. REALLY hammered this page. It's been completely taken offline. Check the Google cache by going to Google and entering "cache:www.ultimatesecurehome.com" in the search box, or go to The Internet Archive [archive.org] and use their Wayback Machine to pull up the page. Interesting stuff, though it takes some effort to pull up thanks to us geeks ^_^

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