Gimp Hits 2.0

jf writes "Gimp 2.0 released! From gimp.org: "This release is a major event, marking the end of a three year development cycle by a group of volunteers and enthusiasts who have made this the most professional release of the GIMP ever. It is the first stable release that is officially supported not only on Unix-based operating systems, but also on Microsoft Windows and Macintosh OS X." Get it from ftp.gimp.org or from the mirror sites."

Newsforge Article

[amigoro]

Here [newsforge.com] is the Newsforge Article about the new GIMP that appeared a couple of weeks ago.

The screenshots look simply awsome.

Going to install that now.

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mac binary...

[millahtime]

the mac binary gimp.app is still prerelease 3. it isn't updated yet.

Since the mirror list will be slashdotted...

[Troy]

Here is a formatting-free, cut-and-paste, hack job.

mmmmm.....karma...

Africa
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/applications/gimp/
Australia
ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/
http://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://gimp.zeta.org.au/
Austria
ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/gimp/
Denmark
ftp://ftp.jaquet.dk/pub/gimp/
Finland
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/graphics/packages/gimp/
France
ftp://ftp.minet.net/pub/gimp/
http://ftp.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr/pub/gimp/ (web access)
Germany
ftp://ftp.fh-heilbronn.de/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org /
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ (web access)
Greece
ftp://sunsite.ics.forth.gr/sunsite/pub/gimp/
Irel and
ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/
http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ (web access)
Japan
ftp://SunSITE.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/packages/gimp /
ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/graphics/tools/gimp/
ftp://ftp.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/
http://www.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ (web access)
http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/
Korea
ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/ftp.gimp.org /
Netherlands
ftp://gnu.kookel.org/pub/gimp/
http://gnu.kookel.org/ftp/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/gimp/gimp/
http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/gimp/gimp/ (web access)
Norway
ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/gimp/
Poland
ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/gimp/
ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/graphics/gimp/
Roman ia
ftp://ftp.kappa.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/
ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/
http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ (web access)
Russia
ftp://ftp.sai.msu.su/pub/unix/graphics/gimp/mirror /
http://gimp.tsuren.net/mirror/gimp/ (web access)
Spain
http://sunsite.rediris.es/mirror/gimp/ (web access)
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/gimp/
Sweden
ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp/
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ (web access)
Turkey
ftp://ftp.hun.edu.tr/pub/linux/gimp/
United Kingdom
ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/X/gimp/gimp/
ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gi mp/
United States
ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/gimp/

Re:Gentoo

[S. Traaken]

mkdir -p /etc/portage && echo '=media-gfx/gimp*' >> /etc/portage/package.unmask

and never edit profiles/package.mask again.

Re:What about simple drawing functionality ?

[FooAtWFU]

You could always draw straight lines [gimp.org] with a minimum of trouble.

Installer for Windows

[yivi]

http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/development.ht ml [arnes.si]

Re:What about simple drawing functionality ?

[prockcore]

is it, at last, possible to simply draw lines or arcs ? It is pretty useful, so why do they snub such functionalities ?

This has always been possible. To draw a line, select a paintbrush or a pencil. Click on the start of the line, shift-click on the end of the line.

To draw a circle, use the circle selection tool, and then go to edit->stroke. To draw an arc, just draw the circle on a new layer, and erase the part you don't want.

Re:Photoshop!

[gilesjuk]

CinePaint (formerly known as FilmGimp) has been used in quite a few well known films and was forked from Gimp 1.x.

Link to CinePaint [sourceforge.net]

Re:What about simple drawing functionality ?

[Anonymous Coward]

You've always been able to draw archs by using the path tool to make two points, bend the line and then stroke it - why does that sound so perverted?....

Re:Since the mirror list will be slashdotted...

[FrostedWheat]

Most of these mirrors don't have it yet, but the Australian one (Planet Mirror) and the UK one (flirble.org) have it.

Re:Got CMYK?

[Anonymous Coward]

Alpha was fixed a long time ago, in PS 7.0.1. The patch is free from Adobe.

CMYK separation is patented up the wazoo. No one but Adobe can do it, as far as I can tell.

Here, for windows

[ospirata]

Here [arnes.si] is the Windows version.
Unfortunatly only Gimp 1.2 aviable yet.

Re:Got CMYK?

[Lalakis]

BTW, if you really need CMYK support in gimp now, you may look at http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml . It is a really nice plugin and gimp won't match its functionality for a long time (full CMYK support in gimp is planned to be complete sometime in spring 2005...).

Re:EXIF.

[mrgreen4242]

According to page 7 of this [gimp.org] release document,

Data stored in EXIF tags by digital cameras are now handled in read and write mode for JPEG files.

Re:Fantastic!

[SuperBanana]

Photoshop is great for printing based people, but has some major miss-features for computer graphics use.

You obviously haven't used a recent version. Photoshop CS(8.0) works very nicely for computer graphics, including stuff Gimp doesn't do, like channel/layer based JPEG compression control, which is invaluable for web designers. Adobe has been improving the integration between all their apps, and I'm a big fan; I've posted about it before.

Photoshop also supports color management through and through- GIMP never has out of the box and never will, because there's no such thing as color management under linux; it's not builtin to X, there are zero calibration devices for linux, etc. Even gamma is something of a mess under Linux.

Last but not least, Photoshop CS includes a RAW decoder for most of the pro digital cameras and many prosumer units. It is nothing short of amazing and almost worth the price tag alone; you gain quite a bit more color depth with RAW images(depends on the camera- without getting into digital medium/large format backs, the best you can get right now is 12 bit per channel) and the plugin lets you tweak many, many parameters- with nearly instant preview. Nothing compares, even on the Macintosh or PC side...only Capture One could be considered better. dcraw is a joke...

Re:Windows?

[Chupa]

Here [arnes.si] are windows binaries in a nice installer. 2.0pre4 is the newest release available at the moment, but it is working fine for me right now.

Gimp for Windows (version 2.0pre4)

[lent]

From: http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/development.ht ml [arnes.si]
[gimp.org] [gimp.org] GIMP for Windows [arnes.si]
FAQ [slashdot.org] | Stable version [slashdot.org] | Development version [slashdot.org] | Source code [slashdot.org] | ] Installers for GIMP for Windows Development version download

This is the development version of The Gimp. It will open a console (MS-DOS) window when it's run to display debugging messages. Do not close this window.

It is highly recommended to update GTK2 to the newest version before installing Gimp 2.0pre4, as some bugs have been fixed since the last release.

Note: The Gimp binary available from this page was compiled for Pentium MMX or better CPUs.

GTK+ 2 for Windows (version 2.2.4-20040124) 3619 kB GTK+ 2 runtime environment. This package is required by The Gimp 2.0.
MirrorFTPHTTPProvided by ftp.arnes.si Download [arnes.si] - Academic and research network Of Slovenia [arnes.si] ftp.flamingtext.com Download [flamingtext.com] - FlamingText [flamingtext.com] --> files.akl.lt Download [files.akl.lt] Download [files.akl.lt] Atviras kodas Lietuvai [www.akl.lt] ftp.freenet.de Download [freenet.de] Download [freenet.de] freenet.de [freenet.de] --> The Gimp for Windows (version 2.0pre4) 6807 kB Gimp 2.0pre4 for Windows.
MirrorFTPHTTPProvided by ftp.arnes.si Download [arnes.si] - Academic and research network Of Slovenia [arnes.si] ftp.flamingtext.com Download [flamingtext.com] - FlamingText [flamingtext.com] * [slashdot.org] --> files.akl.lt Download [files.akl.lt] Download [files.akl.lt] Atviras kodas Lietuvai [www.akl.lt] ftp.freenet.de Download [freenet.de] Download [freenet.de] freenet.de [freenet.de] --> Additional plug-ins for The Gimp 742 kB This package contains Gimp-FreeType (CVS 20040202) and Gimp Animation Package (1.3.25) plug-ins for Gimp 2.0pre2.
Warning: both these plug-ins are considered unstable.
Note: Due to a problem with the GTK+ installer, the FreeType plug-in will not work, unless you copy the file freetype-6.dll to freetype6.dll in C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\bin\ folder.
MirrorFTPHTTPProvided by ftp.arnes.si Download [arnes.si] - Academic and research network Of Slovenia [arnes.si] -->

If you wish to compile plug-ins for use with this Gimp version, you can get the development files here [arnes.si].

Development version download This is the development v

Re:Got CMYK?

[stubear]

CMYK isn't patented but Pantone colors, including the Pantone to CMYK (spot to process) color conversions. GIMP will likely never do spot colors or spot to process as they would need to license them from Pantone. I haven't really looked all that closely at GIMP though (Photoshop CS user and quite happy with it) so I could be wrong.

Re:isn't this what bittorrent was created for?

[lart2150]

ya and that's why I made a torrent :-) now let's watch my tracker/web server die http://engert.us/gimp-2.0.0.tar.bz2.torrent

Re:Sweet!

[Deusy]

Now maybe I can figure out how to use the thing.

It's not difficult - you can find some good tutorials at gug.sunsite.dk [sunsite.dk].

Re:It's pretty good!

[BigSven]

Try the Small theme from the GIMP preferences dialog then. You will certainly find it useful with your screen resolution.

Re:It's pretty good!

[pbox]

I managed to cram all palettes into the main window. It is actully as intuitive as Photoshop's way of handling it, without the Duck/Undock menu entries. Just grab the palette title (might look like folder tabs if placed on top of ach other) and drop it where you want it. When you drag the last one out the window disappears. If you drop it in the middle of nothing it creates a window. Thos funny little widgets in the main winows allow you to partition the window into sections, which serve as separate drop targets. You can create new partitions and get rid of them. All simple as a pie.

Re:Windows?

[pmsyyz]

I use the GIMP to take screenshots in Windows.

File > Aquire > Screenshot

Much better PNG saving options.

Re:Mac OS X IS a Unix-based operating system...

[fdobbie]

Yeah, except that the GIMP runs in Mac OS X's X11 environment [apple.com]. This is basically XFree86, so it has exactly the same API as it does on every other platform.

re: dcraw is a joke?

[Anonymous Coward]

adobe raw coverter is based upon dcraw:

http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/

Re:Excellent

[vandan]

I've been using a pre-release version ( compiled via Gentoo's portage system ) and I'm very impressed with it indeed.

The text tool has undergone a MAJOR overhaul and is far more powerful than in the old Gimp-1.3. When you add text, it creates a layer of it's own instead of being dumped onto the current layer, and you can go back and edit the text and font etc after you've added it. This saves me a lot of time, because I often add text, add some effects, do something else, adn then come back and think ... 'maybe I should have done *this* with the text instead'. The text tool is cool try it out.

Also there are a lot of scripts and plugins ( at least in the Gentoo build ) that do some powerful stuff - bevelling & 3d outlining and all sorts of things.

While the addition of the menus at the top are merely cosmetic, it will at least shut up all the users who can't get the hang of the right-click menu system.

Win32 support is also interesting, as it means that GTK2 under Windows shouldn't be too far off. Personally, I'd LOVE to be able to write Perl / GTK2 apps that run under Windows, and it looks like I might be able to soon :)

Re:Photoshop still rocks it

[deadsaijinx*]

automated red-eye removal is a fart in the wind. don't be such a poon and just airbrush it in

Re:Sweet

[Aliencow]

http://beepmp.sourceforge.net/

Re:Sweet

[Anonymous Coward]

Flac (and musepack, and some other plugins) are in the bmp extra plugins package. http://freshmeat.net/projects/bmp-extra-plugins

Re:Fantastic!

[DVega]

"Photoshop also supports color management through and through- GIMP never has out of the box and never will, because there's no such thing as color management under linux; it's not builtin to X, there are zero calibration devices for linux, etc. Even gamma is something of a mess under Linux."

You mean color managemnt like this [littlecms.com] ?

Re:Since the mirror list will be slashdotted...

[BigSven]

This one (in Sweden) has the tarballs mirrored as well: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp/gimp/v2.0/

web designers...siiigh.

[SuperBanana]

Um, I'm a web designer. How is that invaluable?

You're wasting your time when you could be doing more productive things which would help you create your websites more quickly instead of worrying about 1k or so in a jpeg

Variable compression(controlled by a mask) allows you to crank up the compression on low detail areas and use much finer compression at important parts, such as the edges of UI elements where compression artifacts would be noticed immediately. It can yield enormous savings, much greater than 1kB, and solves the #1 problem with JPEG- it's not dynamic and does NOT handle edges well.

Furthermore, even 1kB can have substantial cost savings for a client. If they get 1 million hits a day, they most certainly care about 1kB, because that's roughly $2-3/day in bandwidth charges. That's a thousand bucks a year, which pays for a whole lot of time for a graphics designer to squeek every last kilobyte out of an entire site's worth of images. Why do you think people install mod_gzip on servers to compress HTML? Why do you think many sites strip down the headers Apache sends in requests?

It's ok, we have broadband (or 56k modems at the very worst).

a)most people do NOT have broadband, b)56k modems typically get around 33.6kbps at best(22kbps is not uncommon for some folks out in the middle of nowhere), which works out to around 4.2kB/sec. If I knock 5kB off an image, you'll see it a second faster.

Re:Windows?

[13Echo]

You can just hit "Prt Scr" (Print Screen) and paste it into GIMP as a new image.

Re:This sounds like a good time for you

[Anonymous Coward]

(I'm the parent graphic artist again)

Any good artist knows that quality rendering is usually done with multiple tools. I haven't used "just photoshop" or "just painter" since my first year at art school. Each program has something unique to offer, even if it seems like they have the same tools. Honestly, I don't use gimp because I'm supporting some sort of movement, I use it because I like what I can achieve with it.

Re:Excellent

[Seraphim_72]

Filters--->Render---->Gfig

Its actually in the help file - and a google [google.com] turns up more help.

Sera

Re:Photoshop still rocks it

[Anonymous Coward]

> Actually, I noticed the gimp can read .psd files, so it should be able to read in photoshop elements files. that's pretty cool.

I can tell you right now that the GIMP 2.0 cannot correctly open all the example PSD files that are included with Photoshope Elements 2.0 and with the sampel TIFf files you will get error message but the images will still load.

The omission in Photoshop elements that annoys me most is that it does not support grouped layers. When someone expects you to work with Photoshop document containing 40 small layers that were actually nicely grouped into 4 categories but then you have to deal with all the individual layers agian it is really really annoying.

The GIMP 2.0 doesn't do grouped layers either.

Re:It's pretty good!

[Anonymous Coward]

here is a link [gimp.org]

Re:isn't this what bittorrent was created for?

[Bob9113]

now let's watch my tracker/web server die http://engert.us/gimp-2.0.0.tar.bz2.torrent

:) That was fun. Here's another one we can try to kill: http://www.pfloss.com/tmp/gimp-2.0.0.tar.bz2.torre nt [pfloss.com]

Re:Windows?

[Trolling4Dollars]

Anyone who admits to using MS Paint for screenshots is a moron. If you are trapped in the MS world, at least use the "Print Screen" key and paste into GIMP. It's a hell of a lot more useful than MS Paint. This is assuming that you don't have the money to buy Photoshop or the unscrupulous nature to pirate it. I can't waste $600 on something just for screenshots and I will NEVER pirate software. Of course, I don't need to worry about that since I use Linux.

Re:Excellent

[lunartech]

I've been using the beta version of 2.0 for a few weeks now and I think the user interface is a vast improvement. I've used The Gimp on a regular basis previously because it's great for the majority of graphics stuff. But I used to get a bit sick of right-clicking the image to get a menu in the old version. Simply adding a menu bar above the image has made a huge difference for me, not to mention the new docking features to reduce onscreen clutter etc. Top work guys !

Got Math?

[LFS.Morpheus]

Or, bandwidth doesn't cost that much, at least not where I will likely buy my next server.

1,000,000 hits/day = 365,000,000 hits/year @ 1kb/ea =
365 GB.

I can transfer 365 GB for as little as $25.19 [servermatrix.com]. Alternately, this is $0.07 a day.

So yes, you are probably wasting your time.

Re:Windows?

[houseofmore]

If you can't figure out how to run a batch file, you probably shouldn't be running photoshop or gimp.

Re:Who's unix-based?

[mattjb0010]

Then why does OSX do so poorly on UnixBench?

Source? My 667MHz G4 powerbook (OS X 10.3.3) gets a higher score than my 2.4GHz P4 desktop (Redhat 7.3). And this has nothing to do with whether or not a system is Unix-based, let alone the Gimp! The parent post should be troll or OT, not interesting.

Re:Windows?

[houseofmore]

Dear no... I would never suggest a windows user compile anything!!!

http://www.gimp.org/windows/

"This site, www.gimp.org, only distributes the source code to the GIMP (the building blocks). You can however download executable versions from the following sites:

Jernej Simoncic provides an installer program that automates the installation process. This is the most convenient way to install the GIMP for Windows.

http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/

Re:Excellent

[JoeBuck]

You're confusing vector programs (Sodipodi, Illustrator) with bitmap programs (GIMP, Photoshop). If you want to draw diagrams, you want one of the former, not one of the latter.

However, the simplest way to draw a rectangle in GIMP is:

• Choose the rectangle select tool, drag out a rectangle.
• Using the right mouse button, execute "Stroke" from the Edit menu. This will draw a rectangle, using the current brush tool, following the selection you just made.

To get an ellipse, use the ellipse select tool. Or use the Bezier curve tool to draw Bezier curves.

If you want to do this a lot, you can attach the keyboard accelerator of your choice to the Stroke function (it doesn't have one by default).

Re:torrent for gimp 2.0.0

[Anonymous Coward]

I think you ment to do this: Gimp 2.0.0 Torrent [downloadanime.org]

Gimp.app for OS X

[ttjervaag]

Efforts are also being made in providing a stable application bundle of the Gimp for OS X.

It is still being tested, but works fine for me:
http://gimp-app.sourceforge.net

It requires only Apple's X11 to be installed.

Re:Windows?

[Anonymous Coward]

... Which has only gimp version 1.2.5 stable and 2.0pre4 unstable.

Click and learn how to use gimp...

[lent]

OK, click and learn :-)

Note: Number 9 below is especially cool if you have an investment in Photoshop-plugins.

From:http://members.home.nl/m.weisbeek/gimp/ [members.home.nl]

Annoyances about The GIMP

While The GIMP is such a powerful application, doesn't it have any drawbacks ?!? - Oh, yes, it has...

I [Martijn Weisbeek] am writing this article just to show you some of these. I hope that it will make you're life with The GIMP more easy. This article is the result of about one year of experience with using the Windows-version of The GIMP (almost on a daily basis). Just remember that The GIMP clearly focuses on functionality (which is good) instead of user-friendlyness. Therefore some things just aren't that obvious, just until you get the hang of it... So just take your time to read through this article and you'll make yourself an immediate GIMP-crack.

[...snip...]

For your convenience I created a list with pointers to the items in this article:

1. How do I edit an image ? [members.home.nl]

2. I hate going through this rightclick-menu each time !!! [members.home.nl]

3. Doesn't The GIMP support GIF's ?!? [members.home.nl]

4. Lots of GIMP-functions do not seem to be available !!! [members.home.nl]

5. But how do I know on what type of image a plugin works ? [members.home.nl]

6. How do I make parts of the image transparent ? [members.home.nl]

7. How do I remove the Alpha-channel (transparency-information) afterwards ? [members.home.nl]

8. How do I change the size of my image ? [members.home.nl]

9. Extend The GIMP's functionality with Photoshop-plugins [members.home.nl]

[...snip...]

The new GIMP is great

[DarkDust]

Especially its path tool is really, really useful.

I'm using the 2.0pre4 version for two weeks now. I wanted to have a unique background image and my image drew me a "grim reaper tux" which I'm now coloring with the GIMP. The path tool makes this a whole lot easier, especially when deciding that some details of the form are not as I'd like them to be: you can then just throw away the layer with the outline and with the filling, tweak the path a bit and redraw the two thrown away layers in a few seconds.

The path tool now allows you to specify which tool to use when "stroking" the path, so I used a fuzzy brush... you could even use an elliptical brush or pen here. And you can get a selection from the path, which you can even combine/intersect which other paths.

The picture I'm working on is not completed yet but I've made preview [darkdust.net] available.

Getting the GIMP to compile correctly is a really hard though... I'm not going to repeat that loooong list of dependencies here, but you have to watch out sometimes. I guess it was the GTK+ 2.3.5 where I had to explicitly enable XInput to get my Wacom tablet to get recognized by the GIMP, and somewhere else I had to explicitly enable Xft or something like that...

But the new GIMP is a heavy improvement to the 1.3.x series, mainly from a GUI point of view, as the GIMP's drawing qualities where already quite good, IMHO (but then, I'm a programmer, not an artist ;-).

Re:It's all swell and shit, but

[cdyson37]

Why on Earth would you want to do work on photographs in 16 bit mode?

You've misinterpreted him. He means more than 8 bits per pixel per colour (the 24bit you talk about is 8 bits per colour per pixel, not including alpha). For instance my camera can produce pictures with 12 bits per pixel per colour = 36bits per pixel excluding the alpha channel (no, my camera cannot take photos with an alpha channel:). It is annoying that I can't use all the of the information in my photographs in gimp, and the grand-parent post makes a good point, but maybe someone will include this feature - it is apparently on the wish list. This is the one single feature that is holding gimp back in my opinion.

Re:Digital Photo tutorials

[Anonymous Coward]

Could anyone recommend a good tutorial for photo touch-up using the GIMP?

Try gimpguru [gimpguru.org] and the gimp.org tutorials [gimp.org].

Re:Windows?

[xveg]

You need to install expat:
http://www.jclark.com/xml/expat.html

Download the file, and copy contents of expat/bin to /program files/GIMP-2.0/bin/

I am gimping now!