Google to Launch Free Mail Service? 329
prostoalex writes "The New York Times article on Yahoo and Terry Semel's management (soul stealing form required) mentions Google preparing "to offer a free e-mail service, people close to the company said, in a bid for Yahoo's most important source of loyal customers"."
Certainly seems like they're planning for it... (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Certainly seems like they're planning for it... (Score:5, Informative)
If someone took googlemail.com and used it, they could lose their trade mark and cause confusion, with or without knowing it. Paying $200 for 5 or so years for a trademark'd domain is sure cheaper than keeping a lawyer in court.
Re:Certainly seems like they're planning for it... (Score:5, Informative)
Almost a dupe (Score:4, Informative)
Google Eyes New Email Service, Expansion [slashdot.org] on Monday January 19, @04:02PM
Posted by simoniker [mailto] on Monday January 19, @04:02PM
from the ultimate-internet-moogles dept.
GillBates0 writes "According to a CNN/Reuters story, Google is developing a service to attach its lucrative keyword-based advertising to email [cnn.com]: ''I'm sure Google is getting more and more concerned about locking in users. It wouldn't surprise me if they did something very sophisticated with e-mail,' said Danny Sullivan, editor of SearchEngineWatch.com [searchenginewatch.com], who tracks the industry.' Apparently, Google has purchased an e-mail management software maker and registered the domain name googlemail.com. The article also speculates that Google is slowly on the way to becoming a full-fledged portal, with the gradual addition of more and more portal-like features like Froogle [google.com]."
YahooPOPs! -- I'm LOVIN' it !!! (Score:4, Informative)
What is it? Well, YahooPOPs! is an open-source initiative to provide free POP3 and SMTP access to Yahoo! E-mail accounts. It works in both Windoze and Unix.
What it does is emulate a POP3/SMTP server and enables popular email clients like Outlook, Netscape, Eudora, Mozilla, IncrediMail, Calypso, etc., to DOWNLOAD AND SEND emails from Yahoo! accounts.
It's amazing, bro. I had NO idea it'd even work. I had to download it to believe it. There are also other similar programs out there for MSN, Lycos, etc.
No self-respecting webmail user should be WITHOUT it.
The irony... (Score:5, Informative)
Here ya go. [nytimes.com] (The same article is also available in The Ledger [theledger.com])
Re:I wish someone would... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Makes sense (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Next? Maybe Google Emacs... (Score:1, Informative)
You mean like Vi?
Try alltheweb.com (Score:5, Informative)
Alltheweb is a bit more international than google (I believe its hosted in Europe somewhere) and is owned by Overture who sells google lots of search info.
About us page here. [alltheweb.com]
They also seem to have a knack for lowering the importance of weblogs, which seems to be a big issue with some people nowadays.
Re:Google Portal? (Score:5, Informative)
Yahoo's search page [yahoo.com] is also pretty simple, but probably not what people generally think of using when searching with Yahoo.
Maybe that's just a question of priorities - which set of features gets on the 'front' page. So long as Google keeps its front page the simple one, that probably won't be an issue.
Re:Google MusicSearch? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I wish someone would... (Score:4, Informative)
Instead of typing:
K8NNXP motherboard reviews
(for example)
type:
"motherboard" +K8NNXP +review
You will be sure to get a result from that
Re:The question is... (Score:3, Informative)
That's totally false. The CEO you mention is Eric Schmidt, who has a PhD in computer science and is the author of Lex [google.com], the automatic scanner generator. The founders still hold controlling interest in the stock. Google is the most engineering-driven company you're likely to come across.
Re:True, but... (Score:1, Informative)
I still use it but if the search doesn't get a good hit within two pages I switch to Teoma which usually has the relevant information on the first page.
Everything you've stated above as being positive Google attributes also apply to Teoma.
Google has crossed the line when it's core service which is to provide relevant search results and it's need to sustain itself economically are at odds with one another.
I don't want a new Hundai every other year I want a new Porsche every year is the attitude I see displayed by Google and it shows in the search results. In their efforts to raise the bottom line they have lost site of the bottom line.
Re:I wish someone would... (Score:5, Informative)
Usability (Score:4, Informative)
By "easy" I mean that I should literally have to do nothing to use it. If I have to create a keypair it should be when I sign up, and I shouldn't have to ever need to think about it again. I should have a "send encrypted" button beside the "send" button or a preference. I shouldn't have to get my friends to mail me their public keys, the service/client should obtain them automatically somehow. Essentially I shouldn't have to do a single thing more difficult than today's webmail services.
I really don't have anything top secret enough to say to my friends that I would find value in encrypted mail. The huge inconvenience that is the current state of encrypted mail just isn't worth it to me... and it definitely won't be to my mum, or non-tech friends.
However, if someone can do encrypted mail without any added inconveniences, I will be the first to sign up.
Re:Google Portal? (Score:4, Informative)
If you don't want blogs in your results; HOW TO (Score:5, Informative)
Here's a simple way to get most blogs out of your results in google or any other search engine (personally I use Gigablast [gigablast.com] as my primary):
Type search query plus "-blog"
Et voila!
Of course it can't help it if some pages are ranked high because they are linked from blogs, but I don't think that anything from the user-side can change that.
Re:Internal link/redirect (Score:5, Informative)
That is how Yahoo! seems to work, but not Google. For example, if I search for "Slashdot" on Google, I get this as the first link (right-click, copy link location):
"http://slashdot.org/"
in Yahoo!, I get:
"http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=slashdot/
When Yahoo! started doing that is when I stopped using Yahoo.
From looking at these results, I don't think Google really has any idea what links I selected.
Re:Try alltheweb.com (Score:2, Informative)
Here's site stats from one of my sites - a very large site dedicated to clubbing - one interesting thing to note here is that MSN has very recently (this month only) aggresively scanned my site - but will they come back and re-scan alot of those pages? (last visit for microsoft was feb 11th..) - alltheweb hasn't even seen ~20% of the website in all of it's scanning, so how is it supposed to index me? In comparrison, Google comes back every few days (grabbing my main index pages almost nightly, a large percentage of the inner pages at least once/month)
MSIECrawler 22737
Googlebot (Google) 15518
Inktomi Slurp 3410
Jeeves 2306
Alexa (IA Archiver) 1731
Fast-Webcrawler (AllTheWeb) 907
Lycos 863
Turn It In 434
larbin 413
WISENutbot (Looksmart) 101
-mark
Re:Internal link/redirect (Score:4, Informative)
Taken from a search for Slashdot:
<a href=/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://slashdot.org/&e=7
Re:Actually, there already is a Google OS (Score:2, Informative)
How Google's email will work (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Actually, there already is a Google OS (Score:3, Informative)
Still, it would be pretty neat to see Google OS if you ask me.