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Microsoft Behind SCO Cash Investment? 395

An anonymous reader writes "eWEEK has got a story up suggesting Microsoft may be behind yesterday's $50mil cash investment in SCO. 'As an investment firm, BayStar leads, creates and participates in a number of PIPEs (Private Investments in Public Equity). Many of these deals involve investment money from other companies, including Microsoft.'"
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Microsoft Behind SCO Cash Investment?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 17, 2003 @11:30PM (#7246391)
    Honey I give you $50 million so you
    can spread fud and make windoze look good.

    If you can confuse the market then I hope windoze 2003 will get some deployment.

    Let me do to you all nite long McBride.
  • Not likely MS (Score:3, Insightful)

    by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Friday October 17, 2003 @11:49PM (#7246481) Journal
    MS has been very open about what they are doing to Linux. The fund "reasearch" that is a total joke. But it always has MS's name attached. Likewise, when MS first funded SCO, they did it out in the open. They made a big deal about it. It is almost certain that MS did not fund this.
    Instead, it has to be some group that is trying hide their involvement. There is no way that Baystar simply invested into SCO. Instead, it is a group that is trying to pump/dump or needs to hide its' involvment due to probable repercussions.
    My guess is that it is either Canopy or Sun.
  • by A nonymous Coward ( 7548 ) * on Friday October 17, 2003 @11:53PM (#7246500)
    There are two investors; BayStar Capital is the other one, and they are an investment house. Even if you could get a list of BayStar's investors, no doubt those are also investment houses, and trying to track down any M$ investment would take a lot of poking. Especially if they are private, not public, companies ...

    Look at it this way. Anyone with a brain knows that this $50M is not an investment, because an investment expects a return on investment. You may be able to find a few nutso small time investors who believe every press release they see and buy stock just in case, but those people generally don't have $50M.

    The only other reason to spend $50M is to get product in return. All SCO has to offer is its lawsuits against Linux. Now think, who would have use for such a product? So far, two license buyers have shown up, Sun and Microsoft. Sun has already been certified as being immune to the SCO infringement claims. Microsoft just dumped another $8M into SCO for an enhanced license, which is just as useless to them as the previous license purchase.

    There may be no proof that Microsoft is behind the $50M, but it looks like a pretty good first approximation.
  • by roystgnr ( 4015 ) <roy&stogners,org> on Saturday October 18, 2003 @12:25AM (#7246637) Homepage
    I wonder what you'll say when SCOX goes up another 30% and these capitalists make out like crazy.

    That they found an even bigger bunch of idiots. And if those idiots can sell up 60%, then they'll have found an even bigger bunch of idiots. It would be great to be in one of the earlier groups, sure, but there's just too much of a risk that the stock will be in your hands when nobody else will want to play, and then you'll be stuck with a crashed stock in an insolvent company as your "Biggest Idiot" prize.

    If you want more details, I suggest researching a recent event known as the "dot com bust", which you appear to have managed to sleep through.
  • Re:I KNEW IT!! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by screenrc ( 670781 ) on Saturday October 18, 2003 @02:04AM (#7246941)
    I don't know if this one is a conspiracy,
    although in general, it makes much more sense
    to think that Microsoft has good reasons to
    attack Linux and the GPL.


    Life is full of conspiracies, even when it does
    not involve Billions of dollars. Look at your
    life, how many consipiracies have you attempted
    against others? I would say, we conspire
    against one another all the time. An infinite
    number of times.

  • by Penguinshit ( 591885 ) on Saturday October 18, 2003 @02:26AM (#7247003) Homepage Journal

    But BayStar's McGrath again stressed that Microsoft was not an investor in this deal. But he did point out that the fact that Microsoft had done business with SCO was seen as a positive when BayStar was looking at SCO as a potential good business and good investment.

    Let's see... zero sales revenue/growth/planning, an entire profit projection based SOLELY on a rather speculative lawsuit based itself on evidence the plaintiff refuses to divulge, but oh yeah, Microsoft immediately bought one of their licenses (and to date is one of only two or three who have) so it must be a good business investment. Never mind that Microsoft is one of the larger players in Baystar's portfolios.

    You may be Overly Critical Guy, but you are frequently more like Underly Logical Guy.

    Drug dealers and terrorists aren't the only people who "launder" money.. This certainly continues to smell like a Microsoft circus act.

  • by c_dog ( 219987 ) on Saturday October 18, 2003 @08:10AM (#7247655) Homepage
    As much as the penguin-lover in me would love to jump on the "Microsoft Did It" bandwagon, I think this deal has less to do with improving SCO's situation, and more to do with positioning to capitalize on the carnage as this mess continues to unfold. Afterall, PIPE deals are typically hedge fund investments...so we clearly cannot see the entire picture, but Microsoft's investment just doesn't make sense as a hedge. Whose would?

    I'm actually happy to see someone other than SCO's board and management stands to profit from their hyper-inflated stock price. If I only had $50 million, and had thought of it first.
  • by HiThere ( 15173 ) * <charleshixsn@@@earthlink...net> on Saturday October 18, 2003 @11:14AM (#7248283)
    Conspiracy theories flourish when information is scant. (Well, also when they are proven to exist...)

    This is an instance where a seemingly stupid move is made by people who would be expected to know better. And it's important for us to understand what's going on. And the information is scant, but the hints are disturbing. So of *course* conspiracy theories are going to flourish. In similar cases it has often turned out to be true that one of the theories was correct. You use theories to direct your search for more specific information. They ony become dangerous when you start believing in them before getting the "convincing information". Unfortunately, things that are repeated often enough easily become convincing. (Think of thinking as being similar to a Google search.)

    But we probably need to resign ourselves to not getting hard information about the reasons here. It seems reasonable to assume "enemy action", but being more specific is probably premature certainty. For now, however, spinning theories to direct research is probably reasonable...

  • Occam's Razor (Score:3, Insightful)

    by RiffRafff ( 234408 ) on Saturday October 18, 2003 @11:18AM (#7248295) Homepage
    Who stands to gain the most from this?

    There's your answer.

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