States Push for Net Sales Taxes 512
Marnhinn writes "Lawmakers in several states are asking Congress for the right to begin collecting sales tax on interstate internet purchases. CNN has the scoop."
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Inevitable (Score:3, Insightful)
How about... (Score:3, Insightful)
STOP SPENDING SO MUCH FSCKING MONEY.
Just look at the budget for you state and see how much money they waste.
Exactly (Score:3, Informative)
On the way to work, I saw state-contracted workers pressure washing the center divider.
That's just one example that is repeated throughout government, as it becomes more and more of a jobs program.
Re:Exactly (Score:2)
Oregon is one example of why voting is a joke. On a regular basis, the state elects to overturn what the voters tell it to do. There is no responsibility these people have to answer to. If you ever watch the
Re:Exactly (Score:3, Insightful)
Sometimes I just wanna shout "Hail Skroob!"
Re:How about... (Score:3, Insightful)
And they have a gun?
KFG
Re:Tell Bush to stop spending please. (Score:2)
You better hope Dean doesn't win the primary of your party, or there won't be any chance the Dems can't beat Bush. It's scary how many people are hoping Dean wins, when every poll shows him trailing Bush in a general election.
BTW, I may not like this tax but I don't see how we can justify not collecting taxes for internet transactions. Is that fair to a local business, having to compete with that?
Re:Inevitable (Score:2)
Inevitable but for key reasons... (Score:5, Insightful)
Sales taxes are one of the primary means of state government fundraising. In such a crunch time, they justifiably fear losing much of "their" income to retailers and possibly looking at struggling brick-and-mortar businesses disappear because someone can sell the same product for less while still making a profit because they can avoid sales tax. Thus the revenue lost is two-fold: tax from the item itself and from property, purchase, and income from any and all businesses that fail as a result of interstate competitors. In a free market this is just how life works, but this country is a regulated capitalist system, hence why MS can be prosecuted on anti-trust charges and slowed from trying to monopolize multiple Internet markets. How can we solve the problem?
The logical solution IMO would be to have the sales tax of the state in which the vendor is located applied to the item if purchased domestically and the sales tax of the state of the recipient applied if the items was purchased internationally. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to actually implement a (potentially) workable sales tax on internet items?
Re:Inevitable but for key reasons... (Score:2)
Re:Inevitable but for key reasons... (Score:3, Insightful)
I am not from Kentucky, but I'm willing to bet that Kentucky is releasing prisoners as opposed to cutting pork is because pork gets you votes, while actually running the state properly does not.
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:2)
Look at it this way. By cutting Federal taxes then the states have more room to raise theirs.
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:2)
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:2)
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:2)
How did the tax cut hurt the economy?
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:2)
deficit, debt and interest. when you spend more than you tax you have to borrow at interest. if you accumulate enough debt, then just paying the interest on it becomes a major budget expense - which you have to meet by either a) raising taxes or b) borrowing more.
simple math, really.
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:2, Insightful)
you are not taking money out of the budget when you cut next year's taxs, you are reducing the money available FROM INCOME TAX. but you end up gaining money from better economic growth, the problem here is that we were headed into a recession at the tail end of Clinton's years (growth was falling and hit the negative side a few months after Bush took office...BEFORE the tax cuts)
anyway, the size of the money taken out of the budget for the
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:4, Insightful)
The long term economic stimulation from tax cuts is negligible, if it even occurs at all. Notice the latest spin from the Bush team: the tax cuts helped shallow the recession.
The Bush tax cuts went to the rich. Unlike a lot of poor people, the rich don't piss away every extra dollar they make. They lock their dollars away in banks or stocks or real estate.
Look, Bush probably doesn't even know why he's cutting taxes. Go read about Grover Norquist and see the real reasons taxes are going down. The extreme right wingers are trying to starve the federal goverment as a way to cut "social" spending programs. Y'know, all that good stuff from the New Deal and other social reforms of the last 50 years.
Re:Will people please stop making excuses for Bush (Score:2)
Some 3rd world country can just ignore their debt, and nobody really cares much (except those who have lent them the money of course), since that's peanuts, and their impact to world economy is barely noticeable, and really who cares (I mean *cares* for real, not only in speeches) if a few million in that country st
Re:Thats exactly my point. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Inevitable (Score:2, Insightful)
Like you wouldn't believe. Well, maybe you'd believe it. But we have them. Plus, our 7% goods and services tax. Woo.
However, we don't have to worry about Internet taxation. So you should move up here. Unless you're an undesirable, in which case, I doubt Costa Rica has Internet taxes.
Re:Inevitable (Score:2)
Matter of time (Score:4, Informative)
CB
And what about mail-order? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:And what about mail-order? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:And what about mail-order? (Score:4, Insightful)
I personally don't give a shit if it's by email, web, phone, mail, smoke signals, shortwave radio, or whatnot. As long as it's interstate, it shouldn't be taxed by a state.
Re:And what about mail-order? (Score:5, Informative)
He said his Mom always paid the taxes, just to avoid a scandal because it was her husband's job to enforce that law. In the end, they end up collecting what is given to them, but the prospect of collecting that money is more expensive most of the time, then the total value of the money collected.
I've got not issues with the gov't collecting taxes. No real issues with the gov't collecting taxes on Internet sales. I've got some issues with them attempting to regulate VoIP. I think that's wrong on so many levels (if you are going to do that, tax by the byte/packet, it's just data at that point VoIP isn't special on the internet, however, that's for a different rant).
When money moves around, the gov't wants a piece of it (they figure if you are spending money, you can afford to give some of it to the gov't, and generally they try and not tax neccessities, hence no taxes on food). The gov't has to aquire revenue to provide the services it does. The gov't doesn't need to provide a lot of things it does. So I don't think they truly need the revenue. However, if they decided to tax it, I've got no problem with that in particular. I do have a problem with them never cutting back services during lean years, and never saving money during the boom years. When they expand gov't services during the boom years, and then try continue will all the same services during the lean years, that's a problem. They needed to be either, returning the money to the citizens, or they needed to be saving it away.
I'm curious to see what will happen if the real estate market ever collapses, that'll directly affect revenue of the state gov't, in property taxes. That'll be a serious problem around here.
Kirby
Re:And what about mail-order? (Score:2)
Re:And what about mail-order? (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, that changes on a state-to-state basis. And also depends on whether or not the purchasee is in the same state as the purchaser. If your business has a physical presence in WA, and you sell something to a customer who receives it (shipped to, or picked up in-store) in WA, then you as the company are responsible for collecting and paying the sales tax on that item. Thus, when I order from Amazon (located about 15
Re:Matter of time (Score:2)
Even my friend who plays middleman on ebay selling Dells and cell phones at horribly inflated prices charges sales tax and does, in fact, report it and pass it along to the state to avoid any trouble should he be audited (he owns a fair amount of business property, etc so it's a definite possiblity for him)
Sales tax will kill ecommerce (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes, I know one is supposed to declare those purchases on your state's income tax form but I prefer to chuckle and enjoy the thought of screwing the state even if only a little. I am tired of taxes, taxes, taxes and more taxes on everything and anything. Pretty soon they will tax the fact one exhales CO2.
It is no secret state budgest have been in the hole for a number of years. But guess what? That is the fault of the states for being irresponsible. Now they want to dip further into the wallets of their citizens because they were spending money in the 90s as if the Roaring 20s were back in style. Here is a simple solution for all those states who want to put a tax on everything: Spend less money. Yep, you heard me right. If I go into debt, I don't go to my employer and demand more money -- I cut back on my expenses. No matter the rhetoric of the tax and spend supporters, its clear that most people want to keep their money instead of having the state spend it for them. We've seen this everywhere from the most conservative backward regions in the South to the mythically liberal Californians.
Amazon is probably (Score:2)
Re:Sales tax will kill ecommerce (Score:2)
From the Beatles' song Taxman
Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman
If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.
Don't ask me what I want it for
If you don't want to
Way to go! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Way to go! (Score:2)
Oh, and from my communications to veries Oregon reps., there will be a sales taxs. the only real question is what should the 9% state income tax be lowered to?
Re:Way to go! (Score:2)
Re:Way to go! (Score:4, Interesting)
Oregon is going to have to raise more money somehow. Already they've had to resort to closing schools three weeks early, and I suspect that the amount of dererred maintainance of critical infrastructure has reached dangerous levels.
Also, Oregon has relatively high property and income taxes, which any companies moving there will have to pay. Of course, there's the trick of living in Washington State (no state income tax) and shopping in Oregon, thus freeloading on the other citizens of two states.
Re:Way to go! (Score:2)
Unfair (Score:4, Insightful)
No, I just believe it isn't time for internet sales taxes. Our economy is hurt enough, we don't need extra taxes on one of the best performing markets. State taxes are bad enough (and I say this hailing from Kentucky.. 6% isn't that bad.. but being a college student, every penny counts.....)
Re:Unfair (Score:2)
Re:Unfair (Score:2)
The problem that they're trying to deal with here is that they have no way to force internet retailers to collect those taxes unless they are based in that state.
So if a MA resident buys something online from a company based in WA, the company in WA is required to collect taxes, but MA cannot do anything if they do not.
Re:Unfair (Score:2)
hm.... (Score:2)
Bad idea but... (Score:4, Interesting)
But I wonder if this could be good for Oregon if we decide not to do it. We don't have sales tax in Oregon. I don't know of any other state that doesn't have sales tax and whenever someone stops by to visit they are always surprised to get 1 cent back when they pay a dollar for something that costs 99 cents. Every time some politician tries to start up a sales tax it gets defeated. (so far). I don't know if we are one of the 45 states that require taxes on internet sales but hasn't been enforcing it that are mentioned in the article.
There are other things that could come of internet sales tax if its not enforced uniformly by all states. Encouraging on-line business to open up shops in their states could be done by lowering or removing state internet sales taxes for those companies.
Amazon is located in Washington State. However when someone orders a book from them its often shipped from Eugene Oregon. Does that mean they could avoid the internet sales tax through some loophole if Oregon doesn't start an internet sales tax?
Re:Bad idea but... (Score:2)
I've always been in favor of killing the sales tax altogether and just implement an income tax. Or for those states that have income tax, increase it a little. Then you don't have this problem and it's not a regressive tax like the sales tax is. Here in Washington we have no income tax but our sales tax is at or above 8.8% (dpending on where you live exactly). Tax a
Re:Bad idea but... (Score:2)
awww, come to Los Angeles where you pay ~8.5% and they take ~5% out of every pay check
Re:Bad idea but... (Score:2)
Great, KILL our economy (Score:5, Insightful)
If I pay tax for selling stuff online, i'll try to sell from another country, such as Canadia.
it's that simple, nobody likes useless taxes, look at the german tax system, everybody hates that, and they have taxes on drinks, cigarettes, damn near everything.
The key to keeping taxes low and within reason, is to not spend so much on other unnecessary things! *cough*war, welfare, politicians paychecks */cough*
Re:Great, KILL our economy (Score:2)
Say a product (DVD set, books, whatever) is the same price in the US and here in Saskatchewan. If the cost of the product is over $60-70 CAD (can't remember right now), and shipping's free, it's actually cheaper to order it from the states than it is to go to
Re:Great, KILL our economy (Score:2)
Based in Ontairo, free next day shipping on 10 discs or more.
I've bought all the Stargate, B5, DS9 series from them, and the Star Trek special edition movie collections from them. They arrived in 2 days, normal ground delivery.
Highly reccommended by me. No, I don't work for them.
Re:Great, KILL our economy (Score:2)
MS accounts for about 1/5 of all sites and about 1/2 of https sites. They have nearly 100% of all the credit card thefts. I would guess from what I have seen, that most americans do not even check that.
In addition, I would guess that few really do massive searches for the lowest prices while on the web. They tend to be impulse buyers with a kind of a range of what they are willing to buy. The proof for this is the fact that so many sites are actually higher priced on
yeah, great idea (Score:2)
State arguments (Score:5, Informative)
I find it interesting that when a business experiences tight finances, they must improve efficiency and trim costs in order to stay afloat. Heaven forbid a government entity have to do the same thing! Cut one penny from a bloated government program (or even cut the rate of growth!), and suddenly the headlines scream about no school lunches and seniors losing social security.
Sickening.
Unfair? (Score:2)
I do however think that paying income tax to one or two governments (depending on your state laws), then having to pay sales tax on top of previously taxed money is ridiculous. When I only get to kee
just ignore the recession, folks (Score:2)
Sales Tax Bad, Period (Score:5, Insightful)
Sales tax is inherently regressive. A loaf of bred (or book from Amazon) costs the same regardless of whether I make 10k a year or 500k a year. Put simply, the cost of living does not scale with income.
Increasing the cost of the bread/book via sales tax increases it for everyone, but that's not equal taxation. A difference of $1 extra in taxes is a larger percentage of the disposable income of a person making 10k per year than it is for someone making 500k a year. So in fact, a sales tax hurts the poor and middle class MORE than it hurts the rich.
No wonder so many rich people like it.
Conversely, even a flat income tax scales the burden with income, so that higher income brackets also pay for increases in taxes. A progressive income tax is better still because then it scales the rate so that the burden of taxation is felt equally by everyone, but that's another discussion.
So no, don't put a sales tax on the Internet. Don't put a sales tax on traditional stores, either. STOP CUTTING MY INCOME TAXES AND CUT MY SALES TAX INSTEAD!!!
With an all-income-tax system, everyone bears the burden of taxation equally. Sales tax makes the poor bear the burden more than the rich.
(And by "burden of taxation", I mean whatever the tax rate happens to be and whatever it's used for. Those are separate issues.)
Actually (Score:2)
Income tax, by the way, is NOT equal in this country. The rich bear a much large percentage burden than the poor. Not saying that is a problem, but do not that is how it is. If you work a minimum wage job, your income tax liability is very small, under 10%. If y
Nope (Score:3, Interesting)
I'd like to see some numbers on that before you claim it as simple fact. Because, quite frankly, I haven't even heard this claim broadcast by even the most tax-averse think-tanks in the country. If it were at all supportable, I think we would have heard it shouted from the rooftops by now.
And yes, food is taxed-- heavily. You might live in one of the states where it isn't, but the majority of us pay taxes at t
Re:Sales Tax Bad, Period (Score:2)
Plus, if you really want income tax instead of sales tax... you need to have your head examined.
With income tax, you are
sales taxes affect everyone (Score:2)
I think you're wrong.
If I'm making $500,000 per year, I'm not spending the bare minimum on life essentials and stuffing the rest into a savings account or my mattress. I'm spending a lot more money too.
So I buy a a new $10,000 bedroom set. I end up paying about $700 in taxes (or more, depending on locality). You got your hand-me-down set from your parents for about $0
Constitution (Score:5, Interesting)
This is the price we must pay for the mess the Iraqi war caused budget-wise. Otherwise there would be the possibility that the federal government could assist the states, and businesses would not have to be so conservative because of the uncertainty lurking over the horizon. Instead we must bend the rules to work around this serious lack of funds.
Re:Constitution (Score:3, Informative)
I don't know but $400 billion for prescription drugs for seniors (who statistically have more disposable income than any other age group in the country) seems like a bigger waste of my money.
Re:Constitution (Score:2)
Re:Constitution (Score:2)
But wasn't it worth it?
Re:Constitution (Score:4, Informative)
"As I recall, States were not allowed to levy tariffs and such against each other."
"No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state." (Article I, Section 9.5)
I have not really heard the proponents of such taxes try to justify their scheme in Constitutional terms. I suppose they would try to make some argument that this was originally intended to keep the exporter of the articles from having to pay taxes to the originating state as the goods go out, and now the exporter is collecting taxes to send to the destination state to make up for the revenue they supposedly lost because the goods weren't purchased locally. But this is really questionable logic, whether I buy something from California and get hit by taxes that wind up in the coffers of California or of my own state, someone is placing a questionable tax on the export of goods, and some state is infringing into the Federal purview of interstate commerce.
Re:Constitution (Score:3, Informative)
"No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress."
On second though, go ahead and forget it - the people arguing i
Is this really possible? (Score:4, Interesting)
How will this be enforced? If I buy something from Dealware, and the company ships it to me...how would California collect the tax? How would they even know?
Is every vendor going to have to start keeping tax records for every state they do business with?
And if Vendor X in Delaware decides to tell California 'screw you' - what can California do? (realistically I mean). Issue a warrant? File a civil suit?
You're going to get more of the same (Score:2, Insightful)
Welcome to the police state, pay your taxes and do as you're told. The constitution has long been obsolete.
States Push for Net Sales Taxes (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:States Push for Net Sales Taxes (Score:2)
Unworkable... (Score:5, Interesting)
With the state tax systems being the way they are, it would be impossible for a small seller on the internet to comply with the laws. Forty-seven states have sales taxes (or is it 48?) and each one is different. A seller on eBay would need to compute that tax for the buyer (state, county, city, in most cases) and then file quarterly with that state. Oh, and to file, you need to apply for a tax id number in that state which may require a business license depending on local laws. Say goodbye to all the small businesses who sell anything on the web.
Or, you could always have a store on the web and have an order form printed that needs to be faxed. That would make you a mail order business which no one seems to be talking about taxing.
I'm sorry to come over all English (Score:2)
Next question:
how will it be regulated?
*Argh* Why not make a simple tax? (Score:2)
And speaking of sales tax, try paying 25% sales tax instead. 6.5% would be great.
And since I have been without internet for a few days, I'm cranky, so why not show prices including the taxes in the states. It's a bugger adding the tax...
And this a surprise? (Score:2)
SPEND LESS MONEY AND STOP TRYING TO JUST STEAL MORE MONEY FROM ME YOU GODS DAMMNED GREEDY BASTARDS
Naw to damned easy
Use Tax (Score:2)
If you want to read more about SSTP (Score:2)
If you would like to know more about SSTP, NetChoice has just released a report on the effect it will have on eCommerce.
Sales Tax Simplification: Not So Fast -- It's Not That Simple [netchoice.org]
As the dot-com bubble burst, the US economy entered recession, and states faced huge revenue shortfalls, the debate over imposing sales taxes on remote Internet sales has quickly heated up. States forecast an aggregate revenue gap between $40 and $70 billion annually and they cite taxes lost to e-commerce as a primary rea
What is wrong with this picture? (Score:2)
Natural extension (Score:3, Insightful)
These burdens currently rest on the consumer, who must report the gross amount of goods purchased on their year-end taxes to be assessed accordingly.
An additional thought is that mail-order and catalogue goods still count for several times more business than internet sales, though this obviously won't remain the case. I can't see this as too "unfair" if the regulatory bodies are adapting to the new methods of business transactions just as those businesses are.
I have a better idea... (Score:2)
Here's my idea of the century:
STOP SPENDING SO MUCH FUCKING MONEY!
Hear that Congress? Hear that fucking State of Maryland? The budget problems are YOUR FAULT. Not mine. If it wasn't for me and all the other taxpayers, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO SPEND.
FUCK YOU ALL!
"Pushing" my ass! This is a HUGE problem. (Score:4, Insightful)
Just wait until States get the brass balls to audit Amazon.com, to get the purchasing history of State residents.
Not only is everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, going to pay fines and taxes out the ass - their purchasing histories will also likely be disclosed.
Not only is there potential to charge EVERYONE with tax evasion, there is also the same privacy concern as in monitoring people's liberary activities.
Why is everyone blaming the states? (Score:3, Insightful)
You know how we all snickered when the Terrorist Rainbo-meter kept going up and down like a Yo-Yo? Every time it went into Orange, that was millions more spent by the state every day in complying with the Federal demands. (depending a lot, obviously, on the size of the state. Here in Texas we got borked by this but hard since we have loads of cities, the 3rd biggest Int'l Airport in the country, and a HUGE foreign border)
So, at the same time Bush was making such a big deal about Tax Cuts! Tax Cuts! WHEEEE!, he was virtually guaranteeing that the States would be forced to raise THEIR taxes to compensate. And, needless to say, of all that money he's asked for lately to send over to Iraq, not a penny goes to the states, where the ACTUAL Homeland Security is being performed.
And, of course, failure to comply with a Federal Mandate, even unfunded, means risking losing even more Federal money. (for things like highway repair)
So, intentional or not, the situation has been set up where the States are the ones getting screwed at both ends. Either they let themselves go completely bankrupt, or they are forced to implement policies which any rational economist would find horrifying in a recession. (and all of y'all complaining about government being a "work program," full of jobs that can be cut, please explain to me how laying off more workers when there's already rising unemployment is a good idea)
Maybe this will get passed, maybe not. The states are utterly screwed either way. But if you want to get angry, get angry at the Feds.
buy a car without taxes over the net? (Score:2)
Re:Oh my! (Score:2)
Re:Last post!! (Score:2)
I just suck.
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:2)
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:2)
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:2)
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:3, Insightful)
Personally, I'd like to see the states look less for new taxes and new revenue and more for ways to cut their bloated budgets. Enumerate all the programs that were added since 1995, cut them all out of the budget, and then see how far into the hole you are!
Love, your reps (Score:2)
Now another Bush is in power, and the economy is doing poorly. WE JUST PASSED ANOTHER GIGANTIC TAX CUT! (and we'll do it again if we have to!)
Re:Love, your reps (Score:2)
Re:Love, your reps (Score:2)
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:5, Insightful)
You could see that Mr. Bush is trying to stop the $pending $pree that states are on. Don't blame him for 'forcing' states to do anything. States have been relying on the federal tit for way too long.
States are refusing to accept that they must cut fat in their budgets in order to meet them. This means auditing the books and eliminating unnecessary services. Every penny of the 'surplus', i.e. the excess cash from federal/state taxes that happened during the internet bubble, should not have been spent. When you plan your budget on an economy that was continuously warned as overvalued, then shit your pants and refuse to roll back the increases when the economy finally re-balances itself, well, you have no right to complain.
Mr. Bush is not responsible for the economy. The economy is the results of millions of business transactions every day by businesses, individuals, and groups. It *generally* increases in the long run, with ebbs and flows in between. Planning on a good three or eight years of economy is just plain stupid. And that's what the states and governments did, and now their paying for it. Or not paying for it, as the case may be.
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:2)
"Relying on the federal tit"... Interesting way of looking at it.
Tell me, proportionately, how much of your yearly taxes go to the federal government, compared with how much goes to your home state?
For me, I recall a figure somewhere around 10:1 for my last filing.
So, the federal government gets 10 times as much as the individual states, yet what do they do? Almost nothing. The military (how does that benefit me?), occasional distaster r
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:2)
And why are Europe and Asia experiencing bad economy as well?
Wrong... (Score:2)
Instead of maintaining a sane level of spending, the states went nuts and blew their surpluses to buy votes from special interest groups of each wing. If you look at states like Colorado, you will see that they do not have this problem. The reason? They have a constitutional amendment that
Re:Wrong... (Score:2)
How many of those 3 million jobs were coding web pages for BS web based companies in the 90s? How many of them were from corporations that were corrupt as sin during the 90s? How many of those jobs relate to the tech industry? I lost jobs during Clinton's administration but I have never lost one under Bush.
Re:Please thank Mr. George W Bush! (Score:2)
My mortgage went up $70 a month this year... I adjust by reducing my discretionary spending since I know I only have a certain amount of income per month. Gasp! The government should have to pay for the critical stuff before they waste money on entitlements and pork? There's no fluff spendin
Re:I would gladly pay the taxes... (Score:2)
What I'd really love to see: a new, non-profit organization ran
Re:Wrong (Score:2)
They are not the only ones... the federal government is even worse.
Bezos supports sales tax (Score:2)