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New Breed Of Web Accelerators Actually Work 323

axlrosen writes "Web accelerators first came around years ago, and they didn't live up to the hype. Now TV commercials are advertising accelerators that speed up your dial-up connection by up to 5 times, they say. AOL and EarthLink throw them in for free; some ISPs charge a monthly fee. Tests by PC World, PC Magazine and CNET show that they do speed up your surfing quite a bit. They work by using improved compression and caching. The downside is they don't help streaming video or audio." And they require non-Free software on the client's end, too.
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New Breed Of Web Accelerators Actually Work

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  • You mean... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by HungWeiLo ( 250320 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:40PM (#6925320)
    "Web accelerators"...You mean highly-advanced technology like mod-gzip?
  • Awwww boo hoo (Score:2, Insightful)

    by stratjakt ( 596332 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:41PM (#6925324) Journal
    They require non-Free software?

    Well, why don't you go ahead and write some Free software to accomplish the same thing?

    My GameCube requires non-Free software too.

    Wahhhh

  • by scosol ( 127202 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:41PM (#6925325) Homepage
    come on- how many of you are over dial-up *right now*?

    that's what i thought...
  • by Brahmastra ( 685988 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:41PM (#6925331)
    get broadband. This will definitely help places that still don't have broadband. But, if broadband is available, it's a no-brainer. I'd rather spend a few bucks more and get broadband, rather than be stuck with some kind of software that may or may not speed up the access depending on what it is.
  • Yeah, right! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:42PM (#6925345)
    And they require non-Free software on the client's end, too.

    And I'll just bet that none of that software includes any popups, spyware or intrusive monitoring!
  • Non-Free software? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by divisionbyzero ( 300681 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:43PM (#6925354)
    OMG, not that! I know this won't get much play here, but I don't care if it's free or not as long as it works. I use the Free software that I do because it is better than Fee software, not because it is free. Shame on me for not being an ideologue.
  • tradeoff (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nstrom ( 152310 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:44PM (#6925364)
    It's just the old tradeoff between CPU power (decompression time) and bandwidth usage (download time). Much easier (and more smartly) implemented on the server side with something like mod_gzip, like HungWeiLo said.

    And graphic compression's been done before too, since around AOL 3.0 or so. Most people turn it off because it makes pages look like crap.
  • by Jerk City Troll ( 661616 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:45PM (#6925368) Homepage

    My former company was checking out NetAccelerator [netaccelerator.net] recently to resell to our clients.

    These things are a joke. The primary performance increase comes from recompressing images into really nasty JPEGs. AOL was doing this years ago (and getting blasted for it). If you turn that off, the performance improvement is not even measurable.

    Furthermore, you tend to get a lot of stale caches on your machine. Most browsers don't even get this right, so they add yet another layer of potentially buggy cache abstraction.

    No, these things are junk. They act as proxy servers and their source is closed. How can you trust them to handle your data? Even with all their compression features turned on, the performance improvement is seriously overrated. Don't bother. You simply cannot get something for nothing in cases like these.

    Now, what would improve the download speed of the web is if web designers would start building standards compliant markup. Many web sites have as much as 700kb overhead in markup from tools that create loads of font tags and their ilk. Pure XHTML + CSS layout would do a hell of a lot more to speed up the web than these scams. Of course, don't take my word for it--read Zeldman [zeldman.com].

  • Re:Awwww boo hoo (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:45PM (#6925373)
    Apache/mod_gzip + Mozilla = free accelerated web content. Oh, and you can throw in squid if you want caching.
  • by yerricde ( 125198 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:52PM (#6925448) Homepage Journal

    You admit that a $200,000 setup fee [pineight.com] isn't "a few bucks more." Thank you; most people miss this.

    But what about people who are so mobile that they need to be able to jack in and access the Internet from any of several locations, and they can't afford the price of a broadband subscription for each location? I was in just that situation for four years. Dial-up has the advantage of a last mile in almost every home in the States, brought to you by the Universal Service Tax, meaning that no matter whose house I was visiting, I could always plug my laptop into the wall and dial my Verizon Online account.

  • Re:Awwww boo hoo (Score:5, Insightful)

    by stratjakt ( 596332 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:55PM (#6925478) Journal
    Nah, this is different altogether. Gzip is not the alpha and omega of compression.

    Different algorithms lend themselves better to different applications, so it seems to me a good accelerator would use a mix of algorithms based on MIME type.

    Ie; is the source data formatted in 24 byte words? 16 bit words? 8 bit words? If you have 8 bit data you don't want to look at 16 bit chunks, because then the string "abacadaeafag" doesnt compress for you. Dictionary sizes and blah blah blah... Even format conversion - turn all those BMPs that dingbats put on their pages into PNGs or lossless jpegs..

    And as for caching, it seems to me like more of a prefetch than a squid-type cache.. Ie, you request page, proxy at IP gets page, compresses it on the fly, then sends it. Caching it locally is more of an advantage WRT latency, not throughput.

    There's a lot of common sense tricks you could use. And according to these articles, they work.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @05:56PM (#6925484)
    knock knock.... hello??? reality calling....

    Over 50% on the net are not using nor even have available to them broadband access.

    Just because your tiny speck of the world has it doesn't mean the rest does.

  • Re:Faster porn? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by onecrazyfoo ( 183660 ) <onecrazyfoo@@@yahoo...com> on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @06:08PM (#6925608)
    Actually, how it was described to me, is that the requested page is retrieved by the ISP's server, cached and compressed, then sent along to the client. Which, with the compression they are able to get, is much faster for the dial-up user. At least that is how is supposed to work with Slipstream's product (what NetZero uses).
  • Re:Just remember (Score:4, Insightful)

    by MerlynEmrys67 ( 583469 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @06:11PM (#6925638)
    Yup... this is exactly what they are doing... Remember I have a local proxy cache - and multiple T-3 links to the internet - you have a 33kbit connection to this. If I can get a 100K file - spend time compressing it by 5x and get it to you in less time than it would take you to get the 100K file (24 seconds right) I have won. And guess what - the next sucker that asks for it, I get to give the recompressed data too for free.

    In many cases CPU power on the internet is free, bandwidth is expensive and worth spending free CPU cycles dealing with... Oh - how do YOU know that you are getting a degraded image anyway ? the average idiot going through an ISP that would do this only sees the internet this way.

  • by noahbagels ( 177540 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @06:20PM (#6925717)
    That's about all the article had to say:

    Tests by PC World, PC Magazine and CNET show

    These are the same magazines with full color, multi-page reviews of the new 0.025% faster hardware. They are the same magazines that review each micro$oft product and say that the TCO is lower than ever before. Take one look at any of their websites, and you will see:

    These magazines are Advertisements

    Taking anything from them seriously is like taking a presidential speech to be a serious economic discussion, or taking a realtor's web-site as gospel in the market.

    Funny - just went to CNET.com to research my post, and guess what? Over 50% of the page is advertising. The rest is 'reviews' of which 100% have links to affiliate programs to purchase said hard/software and give a kickback to CNET.

    They will try hard to sell anything, and get their commission. It's like they are the used car salesman of the internet - only everything is new and they don't look you in the eyes when lying to you.
  • by Micah ( 278 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @06:44PM (#6925907) Homepage Journal
    Of course, I should also add that both numbers would be a lot lower if the Slashcode theme remotely resembled web standards instead of horrendous amounts of nested tables and "spacer" graphics, but that's getting off-topic.....
  • by wishlish ( 581421 ) on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @10:17PM (#6927225) Homepage
    I have numerous relatives, older people, that had broadband but went back to dialup over the cost. In my apartment complex, DSL is not feasible due to the age of the phone lines, so we must use the Comcast monopoly- $50/month. Juno is around $10/month- even AOL is $23/month, half the cost of broadband.

    Obviously, using broadband makes sense at a certain point of usage. But if you're not using the Internet more than, say, 2 hours a week, the economics just doesn't make sense. So there is value in dialup web accelerators, especially software that's easy for those who are technically challenged.
  • by pr0ntab ( 632466 ) <pr0ntab AT gmail DOT com> on Wednesday September 10, 2003 @11:38PM (#6927640) Journal
    For the most part, gzip IS, in fact, the alpha and omega. gzip is king on byte-oriented data (it doesn't matter what size the words are, it's a nth-order entropy encoder, so they all turn into pseudo-symbols).

    The types of data that can be specialized are much fewer than you propose.
    For example, bzip: better suited for text as text has a lot of localized second order trends. However it is computationally intensive and may not do well on a server appliance over multiple connections.
    PNG is better on (many) raster images since it exploits 2-dimensional relationships recursively. But it requires the source image to be uncompressed first. JPEGs might already be compressed, and that would make them larger. But recompressing JPEGs (which is the big step these proxies take) is someone of a hack since we didn't really ask for it, and it may look like shit in the end.

    And forget video or audio. There's nothing you can do about it (in realtime anyway...).

    If and when SVG and other XML-based content formats become prevelant components of websites, then gzip/bzip on the fly will become very useful in making sites small, fast but content-rich.

    PDF and flash are already compressed heavily, so they don't need it. Java programs come in .jar files (pkzip)

    And mozilla has browse-ahead built in.

    So I don't really buy any of this. If I still had dialup, I'd rather them just be upfront, let me control MY upstream cache settings/content, and forget all the fancy software, because most of it is redundant. That part about the cache is the key thing, because that's what you're really paying for, and they should let you control how it's used.

  • by kinema ( 630983 ) on Thursday September 11, 2003 @02:58AM (#6928496)
    People keeps saying that this technology is pretty much moot as more and more people are getting broadband connections. Why should compression and caching technology only be applied to slower connections? Why waste any amount of bandwidth even when you have "tons" of it?

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