Nordic Countries to Promote Open Source 203
Nordic Avenger writes "The Nordic countries have launched a website to promote open source software to consumers and small businesses. People can submit open source software links as well as exchange information in the forums section. As the website states: 'Nordicos.org is a project of the Nordic Ministerial Council, and addresses the need for a comprehensive overview of open source software available for consumers'. Now, anybody eager to make good suggestions about software that normal people could find useful and live happily ever after in the open source world?"
Be nice to their forums, damnit. (Score:2, Insightful)
-jim
Re:Be nice to their forums, damnit. (Score:2)
Yeah it might freeze...
Re:No way, Jose, I'm an American. (Score:1)
Re: I'm not. (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re: I'm not. (Score:1)
However, there isn't polar bears in any region of Norden exept of a remote island group north of Norway and on Greenland.
Where I live we have ordinary brown bears, not white. The bears is also smaller than the North American grissly bear. Actually, they are quite harmless since they are very shy - I have never seen one live in nature.
The most dangerous large animal in most of Norden is actually ordinary elks since they have a
Re:Polar bears. Oh please. (Score:1, Offtopic)
A friend of mine is teaching this fall in the Bronx through one of those industry to school programs, she was just telling me about how busy she's been this week. She has not been drawing up her lesson plans, she has been drawing up her discipline plan.
Still I think if you have ever run across a polar bear, outside of an enclosure, you might change your opinion. They
Re: No polar bears here... (Score:4, Funny)
Finland is only partially covered by glaciers, and polar bears and penguins are uncommon in the southern part of the country. The arctic region is called Lapland, the home of lap dancing. Natives travel by wolf or husky-dragged sleds, even though one guy persistently uses reindeers. Natives are on alert from the flesh-eating reindeer that hunt the penguins nesting in the arctic coconut palmtrees. Pohjanmaa ("the Northern Land", ridiculously flat plains of Northwestern Coast in the central Finland) are under water for three months at every spring when the damns broke, killing thounsands. Local houses are built on top of poles, and all the families still alive own boats.
Polar bears have excellent sight and sense of smell. They are also very curious and always trying to find more food. Surprisingly, there is no record of a polar bear attacking a living human in Finland in the last 35 weeks. Loud noise, firecrackers and fire are commonly used to scare polar bears away, and a mere $699 for an official ABP (anti-bear-pack) including a multitude of bear intervention measures. Polar bears can be differentiated from the gray and black bears by their subtle color differencies. The easiest to differenciate is the local polar bear variant, the finbear, from its blue striping on otherwise white fur (ed. most laps still think it is white stripes on blue, even though a Swedish scientist has genetically proven the striping, giving an indication of the stubborn nature of the Finns).
Tornados, blizzards, snowstorms, and earthquakes are more common in the spring (up to June or even early July), glacierquakes a bit less frequent at that time, but a couple feet snowfall in a few days is not uncommon even on other times of the year. Spring blizzards typically last for a week or so, during which time it is impossible to travel anywhere. Snowfall records for a single day is 3.14 metres, but about 1.41 meter is usual.
The English word finish is originated by James Cook meaning the end of the Finnish winter, which usually comes a bit late, but in some years well before the start of the next winter. All the Finns, including young children and hospitalized (ed. if there was a hospital in Finland) elderly, drink plenty of potato-vodka poisoned with ammonium chloride as an anti-freeze measure, surprisingly inaffecting their marvelous, most definatly world-class sled-driving skills. Helsinki, hosting the only school, shopping mall, and museum in Finland, is also the Capital city hosting the King of Finland, Urho. Only noblemen and their huskies can vote.
The phone system is based on mobile phones, since the native people steal any copper wiring and use it for snow shoes repair and jewelry for the huskies. The national computer is running Microsoft Windows 3.11 for workgroups, making the country only of its kind in being a 100% Microsoft market.
Please consider, that there is absolutely no sunlight during the long winters. The natives navigate using ever-light bon-fires, which are now considered to be banned by the EU due to the planned cut in CO2 pollution - possibly leaving Finland completely dark during the winters.
Beautiful (Score:3, Insightful)
Open source does not have enough a coordinated information (and marketing) websites that have enough clout. This effort, as long it is kept up and improved with time, would be a precious resource for the average citizen and consumer.
It's all there! (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean, Under M$ WIndows, I had to find:
An Office Suite (replaced by Open-office)
A Programming Environment (Replaced by QT Designer)
and about 30 small shareware/freeware managers for Zipfiles, PDF files, MP3's, Instant Messaging, IRC, Decent FTP Client, and A News reader.
Everything was Included in the ISO's for Mandrake I burned. The only problem people switching over will have is trying to understand that whatever it is they need, it's (Usually) already installed!
Re:It's all there! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
But seriously, this is another move in the right direction, especially considering the current environment produced by latest worm rounds. More opportunity people get to find about alternatives to MS - the better. I have no doubt that there is more and more demand after each virus breakout.
Re:It's all there! (Score:1)
Re:It's all there! (Score:1)
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
http://www.lut.fi/~medvedev/misc/winnt.jpg [www.lut.fi]
As you can see, most of it is code in system DLLs. Of course, it has been shown in the past that MS code is bloat. We can safely assume that 90-95% of the typical DLL is never used. Some useless resources, uncompressed bitmaps and crap like that. A lot of space is occupied by dll cache, a completely stupid feature made to solve a completely
Re:It's all there! (Score:5, Interesting)
wordpad, calc and outlook express =P
i dont have an office suite installed and i dont need it. im not an accountant, i dont use spreadsheets and wordpad or even write are more than i'll ever need in terms of text formatting.
>A Programming Environment (Replaced by QT Designer)
notepad
>Zipfiles
builtin to windows xp
>PDF files
isnt the acrobat reader plugin instamagically downloaded when you first browse to a pdf?
>MP3's
WMplayer
>Instant Messaging
MSN messenger
>IRC
telnet =P
>Decent FTP Client
ftp.exe IS a decent ftp client. i thought we linux freaks enjoyed working with the console?
>and A News reader.
Outlook express?
I know what you mean but you went about it the wrong way. With mandrake, i slap on the cd, press a couple buttons and it Just Works.
With windows, I need to either rummage through my thousands of CDs in a vain attempt to locate my drivers, or download them from a working puter.
Why on earth arent most drivers included with windows anyway? All builtin windows drivers are always really old and crappy. Unless you have a severely outdated computer, windows will be a 16 color, soundless, webless hell upon first boot. Except for XP which finally seems to get that no one sane uses 16 colors anymore, or even 640x480.
I was using 1024x768 at 256 colors 10 years ago on my 486 under windows 3.1!
With Linux, you instantly get sound and pretty true colour graphics, unless you have some really weird incompatible hardware.
Re:It's all there! (Score:5, Interesting)
When a major MS release debuts, it is like that. When 98 first came out, chances were there would be a driver for every device in a then current PC. After about 6 months, it starts getting time to trawl through vendor websites for drivers. Pretty much the same thing happened when 2000 then XP came out.
Remember, most people just go with OEM installs on their new PCs which will have all the drivers. Its the likes of us that set up systems with full install CDs and the latest drivers from the vendors. MS doesn't really have to cater self-installers on their full install media. Anyone using it probably has enough clue to go find drivers.
Linux distros on the other hand attempt to provide you with everything you need. However, the trick there is to use a current distro CD. The same thing happens with distro CDs that happens with new major MS releases. They just occur more frequently.
Re:It's all there! (Score:1)
Like one of those very uncommon and not ordinarily encountered CD-RW drives.
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
They aren't? I guess I'd better go and find some drivers then, because when I installed Windows 2000 I just accepted the drivers Windows already had.
Now, Windows does have the minor problem of not coming with drivers for hardware which hasn't been released yet; but I think you'll find the same problem with any operating system. (And with Windows, you can usually download drivers from Windows Update -- no need to search through piles of CDs.)
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
I can understand that most people are intimidated by such a naming scheme, but if they'd just offer the generics and incorporate them into plug-and-play, it would future-proof a lot better.
Of course, then people wouldn't need to upgrade as much.
Re:It's all there! (Score:2, Informative)
I do hope you're kidding. FTP.EXE (still) does not support passive mode. The rest of the world's had that since before Windows had a TCP/IP stack.
Re:It's all there! (Score:1)
try lftp [lftp.yar.ru].
a bash-style command line with history,
and much more. THIS is a real cli ftp client.
snap back to reality oh there goes gravity.... (Score:4, Funny)
Is this the same outlook that gets targeted by dozens of viruses, that takes someones list and sends out copies of the same virus?
>Zipfiles builtin to windows xp
I wonder does zip have better compression then say bzip, or gzip? Last I checked I saved more space using bzip than windows zip.
>PDF files isnt the acrobat reader plugin instamagically downloaded when you first browse to a pdf?
Good old Adobe PDF. I love the way it jacks up my processor in Windows, I guess this could be your reason to like it too, I mean who the hell needs free ram space?
>MP3's WMplayer
Oh man oh man, I loooove WMplayer spyware. I like the way it decides to just check up on album information when I'm playing it. I mean its not like the server that it's connecting to is snooping my information. Checking what I'm listening to maybe even putting together a massive list for the RIAA that says "Hey look at user foo, he's listened to 10,000 albums this month.
>Instant Messaging MSN messenger
How did you know another one of my favorites. I love getting a zillion 'Stop this Pop-up' ads from MSN. Yay "MS: Who do you want to spam today?"
>IRC telnet =P
Oh boy you're the best I mean why not use telnet and let everyone using a sniffer see my information coming down the pipes. Can I have your rocket science knowledge?>Decent FTP Client ftp.exe IS a decent ftp client. i thought we linux freaks enjoyed working with the console?
FTP on any OS is rather dumb nowadays considering sftp is freely available under both OS'.
>and A News reader. Outlook express?
See above.
Re:snap back to reality oh there goes gravity.... (Score:2, Insightful)
> Oh boy you're the best I mean why not use telnet and let everyone using a sniffer see my
> information coming down the pipes. Can I have your rocket science knowledge?
Ah, I think I also need some of that rocket science knowledge to understand how using telnet to connect to an IRC server would somehow be more sniffable than using a real IRC client.
Does Windows' telnet.exe send a copy of all transmitted data to Microsoft, or do you just have a problem seeing the difference betw
Re:snap back to reality oh there goes gravity.... (Score:2)
Re:snap back to reality oh there goes gravity.... (Score:2)
Probably not, given that zip and gzip use the exact same compression algorithm. In fact, the code used for gzip and the
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
Yes, I know the situation isn't exactly analagous, but it still seems rather hypocritical to me.
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
Microsoft did NOT get in trouble for simply bundling software. The specific issue was IE vs NETSCAPE. Netscape was at an unfair disadvantage not simply because IE came with Windows, but because it was INSEPARABLE from Windows. Parts of IE buried in the OS code meant that you were loading most of IE every time you booted, and then to use Netscape you were using up tons of memory on top of that. This made Netscape far less convenient to use, even i
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
Re:It's all there! (Score:2)
Except that RedHat bundles KDE along with Gnome, MySQL along with Postgresql, and I'm sure a bunch more.
Now if Microsoft bundled Netscape along with IE, AOL along with MSN, etc., you'd have a point about hypocrisy.
Isn't Linus a Nord ? (Score:4, Funny)
Re: A Finn. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: A Finn. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Isn't Linus a Nord ? (Score:1)
Re:Isn't Linus a Nord ? (Score:1)
Linux was honoured some years past by the Royal Technical Institute in Stockholm - I believe he received an honorary doctorate, but I might be wrong. It was at any rate the same body that gave GATES that doctor's hat the year
Re:Isn't Linus a Nord ? (Score:2)
Yup, Linus and Bill has honorary doctorates at KTH. So does Richard M. Stallman. Quite a crew, huh? I hope they get together once in a while and discuss important matters!
Re:Isn't Linus a Nord ? (Score:1)
Title, people, title! (Score:3, Insightful)
"Nordicos.org - Nordic open source software", or if you have to, "Welcome to Nordicos.org - Nordic open source software" is the title to have. Why? Well, not only because it makes for much better tabs, and better bookmarks, but because this is what you see in a search engine.
And search engines also pay quite some attention to the title, especially when it comes to comparing to content and meta tags. Consistency.
Please, ffs, do the world a favour and use informative titles! How hard can it be... sigh.
Won't change anything (Score:5, Interesting)
like this... (Score:5, Informative)
We're about to distribute a collection like this, called the Windows Toolbox: http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/windows/ [thegoldenear.org]
Re:GnuWin? (Score:2)
Well...... (Score:3, Informative)
I think that we can thank SCO for all that.
It's spelled "KNOPPIX" (Score:1)
Some almost 10 years old, and the latest laptops...
It's virtually the "AOL Users" linux distro.
It's also likely the easiest way to get Debian installed. (knx-hdinstall)
Re:Won't change anything (Score:1)
Maybe not, but IT-staff at hospitals, government agencies etc may think that this feels more "official" then all other sites out there. Also, the site had a very clean and professional look, didn't look "hackerish" in some way (not that that is negative in my optinion).
My 50 ore...
Re:Won't change anything (Score:2)
Visit Knoppix webbsite [knoppix.de] for more info!
Props to the North... (Score:5, Interesting)
Sweden in particular is one of the most wired nations on the planet, and has been actively involved in open-source... anyone ever heard of MySQL?
Skal till Norden!
- Barry
Re:Props to the North... (Score:1)
Re:Props to the North... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Props to the North... (Score:2)
(6% of the finnish population..)
Re:Props to the North... (Score:1)
I miss Sweden as well, the most beautiful country in the world.
Re:Props to the North... (Score:2)
Please read the parent. He was implying that the fact that Mysql comes from Sweden, being cutting edge RDBMS technology, underlines how advanced Sweden is.
Well, Sweden is quite advance
BSDs anyone? (Score:2, Interesting)
Why?
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:1)
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:1)
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:3, Interesting)
Seriously though..
I have noticed that most people who run freebsd came from linux. For some reason or another they got pissed off at linux and switched to BSD. I don't know anybody who started with BSD.
Maybe that's because there is not a comprehensive BSD distro like RedHat or Mandrake. One where you put in a CD and it autodetects everything, sets up your video and sound and gives you a slick desktop.
Lets face it BSD is not for newbies.
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:1)
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:3, Interesting)
Near as I can remember, the last BSD distro for the PC I tried was probally Freebsd, which has exactly what you described, nice hardware detection and somewhat slick desktop. It even detected my Linksys netcard where redhat failed (circa 2000).
The only thing I really miss from FreeBSD is the ftp client has a n
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:1)
And then, today, most Unix apps are being written for Linux. Of course, it's quite easy to port them or run them in a Linux compatibility environment, but if 90% of the visible apps you run are for Linux to begin with, then why run anything else? This is btw a reason I don't understand the excitement about Win
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:1)
compared to redhat7, neat quick startup, bsd style, other linux distros have it too, i know.
small neat system, excellent and stable for kde / x, unlike redhat, no scary process like rpcThis and nfsThat. (slackware's good too)
not really THAT difficult, if you can manage linux, it's not going to show you anything you can't handle, wusss,
but above all else, the _kernel_compilation_worked_.
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:1)
This is the point. You bring up a few "sort-of-nice and besides, m
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:2)
...
it's just, i use unix, you don't.
Haven't you realized yet that SCO owns *all* Unixes, and derivatives.
Seriously though, I don't really mind not using Unix. After the SCO dust has settled, I don't even think I ever want to even *hear* the word Unix. The sooner "Unix" is dead, the better. Posix will live on, through Linux. BSD may be more "real" Unix than Linux, but that is hardly a compliment these days.
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:2)
I used to love unix, too, but that was before all the SCO stuff started. The good name of Unix has been soiled for good, and it no longer represents freedom and openness for me. At least *that* part of MSFT/SCO fud campaign has worked.
really, i'm just like you
Usually FreeBSD people like to emphasize how much more 31337 than Linux people they are. Linux is after all starting to be
Re:BSDs anyone? (Score:2)
It didn't kill my love for the tradition, the way of doing things, etc. (which live on in Linux), but rather showed how necessary it is to sever the ties to ancient Unix (the ties of which BSD people seem to be so proud). It's a phoenix & ashes thing.
but i found it a much better learning tool than linux, this has more to do with how i feel about it than who 'owns' it.
Perhaps because it's slightly simpl
The Windows Toolbox is similar (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Non-proprietary alternative (Score:2)
In November we'll be giving it away on 3000 copies of a magazine, and that costs money to be able to do.
As for tainting it with non-Free software, we're trying to provide everything people might need to use their computer with a wealth of the different media floating around, so
Re:Non-proprietary alternative (Score:2)
All the applications' web sites are linked to from http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/windows/software. h tml [thegoldenear.org]
from where people can download the applications
All our documentation on configuring Windows and applications is available on the CD and the web site, GPLd. same with software we've written ourselves (http://thegoldenear.org/tweak/ [thegoldenear.org].
There is nothing on the CD that isn't available for free on the web
We h
Admirable (Score:1)
From the site (Score:5, Funny)
Finally, a site that will pronounce "Linux" the way it was intended.
WARNING OFFTOPIC (Score:2, Interesting)
This seems to be more and more common. And why not? It's a hell of a lot cheaper than paying M$ liscenses (as long as you aren't stupid enought to pay SCO).
Anyway, I started thinking, why doesn't the US do this? We have a $4.5 * 10^11 deficit; M$ liscense payments can't help that. Well, there are many reasons the US gub'ment doesn't go Open Source, but foremost is a pow
Re:WARNING OFFTOPIC (Score:1)
Outsourcing and open source == EVIL (Score:1, Interesting)
"Be unpatriotic. Increase unemployment! Avoid all-American software and use OSS!"
Governments should all mandate OSS... Why? (Score:1)
The main cost of software is SUPPORT.
Linux will require support.
The money simply would not go to Redmond, but would be spread far and wide across the US.
As it is for the US government, offshore support would be a no no... Strictly home grown support staff would be mandatory.
If you buy the BS that "Linux costs MORE to support" from Redmond, even better to help support the economy, right?
(Everyone knows that's BS, but stay with me)
I use Linux, have used Ne
OS apps direly needed. (Score:1)
- A Mediaplayer that runs it all.
- Video Capture and recording software that just blows away the freebies from Pinnacle, hauppage like winttv etc. That should be easy.
Re:OS apps direly needed. (Score:1)
Suggestions for open source software... (Score:3, Insightful)
Then, why not a serious financial management package for my money (the $232 that I've managed to save since the dot-com boom, and which has not yet been converted into gin)?
The list goes on. Even "huge" packages like SAP are basically just dumb data-entry applications with lots, lots, and lots of options. It used to be that the entry point for building something like this was huge. You needed:
- serious hardware
- licenses for the OS, for tools,...
- Oracle or something similar
- dozens of developers
- huge management structures
I know, I've worked in many companies that produced this kind of software.
Now, today, almost all of these costs have been eliminated, even the huge management structures, as developers have learned how to use tools like CVS, wiki, and even simple email.
It's now feasible (and has been for several years) to foresee a possible next step for OSS, namely to provide domestic/personal/small-business versions of software applications that until today have been considered only "big business".
I'm thinking of stuff like accounting systems, stock-control systems, ERP systems, financial planning systems, currency management, and so on. I'm sure you can add your own favourites: content management.
I'm not quite sure whether I want my fridge to be equipped with a "supply chain management system", but that might be the best tool for the job.
OK, I _know_ that one day, maybe ten years from now, Siebel Systems, or SAP, or PeopleSoft will decide to donate their source code to OSS, much as Sun donated StarOffice. Maybe it's simplest to wait.
But this seems to me to be one of the greatest gaps in today's OSS offering, and one that it should be relatively easy to fill, given modest state support.
Re:Suggestions for open source software... (Score:1)
I'm thinking of stuff like accounting systems, stock-control systems, ERP systems, financial planning systems, currency management, and so on.
Compiere [sourceforge.net]? It's not native and it still needs Orrible, I think, but it's getting somewhere.
Compiere... (Score:2)
But needs lots and lots of work. I would guess that the only way a decent OSS ERP system will come into being is if it is (a) subsidised by the state and (b) actively used by many businesses. If I had the political power I'd definitely find this a good investment of money. Damn, it's a great idea: how much would a small country like Belgium or Sweden save per year if they could find a workable alternative to SAP, for instance? The mind boggles... Perhaps one day we will see govern
Re:Compiere... (Score:1)
Damn, it's a great idea: how much would a small country like Belgium or Sweden save per year if they could find a workable alternative to SAP, for instance?
Having been there and done that, I can attest that the major cost is not the software licensing, it's:
a) Hardware (acquisition + maintenance)
b) Training
c) Support
None of these would really disappear under an OSS solution since you'd anyway have to pay $$$ to some consultant to set it up, train your employees and handle support when things go wro
Re:Compiere... (Score:2)
Yes indeed. I was thinking that a few thousand blockading farmers are enough to leverage France into forcing the EU to keep spending something like 50% of its budget on agricultural support.
What would happen in several thousand IT'ers went on strike...? Hehe. We don't need to drive tractors onto the motorways, simply refuse to answer our emails for a week.
Hang on... we'd all be sacked and replaced within 3 hours. OK, silly idea. But certainly IT staff withi
OSS and small languages (Score:3, Informative)
Open-source programmes for small language areas have the advantage over license-based programmes that the users are allowed to adapt the source code. This means that the programmes can be translated and play an important role in the struggle by small countries to maintain their linguistic and national identities.
And boy do we need that up here in Ultima Thule. Lets count shall we? On the surface, we have swedish, danish, norwegian, icelandic and finnish to take into account - thats five major launguages (allthought norwegians, danes and swedes can understand eachother - we just choose not to).However....
In sweden, sami is an offical second language. In Norway, we have bokmal (mainstream 'wegian), nynorsk ('new norwegian', based on the dialects) and sami as official launguages. In Finland, you have both finnish and 'finlandssvenska' (finlandswedish) to cope with. The danes and icelanders are easily the best off, with just one launguge each. So that gives us a total of nine launguage-variants that the writer of software ought to cater for... in a region with just over 25 million inhabitants. Can we seriously expect the big corps to cater to this marked? Not really, and that makes OSS the best alternative in order to make sure we get software in our own language.
Forgot a language (Score:2)
I think that makes at least 10!
Re:OSS and small languages (Score:2)
10 languages. Is that right?
Just what the hell is a Nordic country? (Score:5, Informative)
Apparently according to their page, it's the Scandinavian countries, Denmark, Iceland and Groenland. So that's okay. But please mention it, because I'm European and I only just found out about this Nordic Council of Ministers.
It's really irritating when people use mindlessly generic terms like that. "Other countries like Europe--" GRR!
Re:Just what the hell is a Nordic country? (Score:1, Informative)
Nordic is scandinavia + Fin, Ice and Groenland.
Re:Just what the hell is a Nordic country? (Score:2, Informative)
Nordic countries consists of five countries (Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland ) and three autonomous territories: (Gronland, Faroe Islands, Aland).
Re:Just what the hell is a Nordic country? (Score:2, Insightful)
Not a generic term (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Just what the hell is a Nordic country? (Score:2)
This raises some interresting problems and questions, as Sweden, Denmark and Finland are all members of EU/Schengen, and Norway is not, but all of them are members of the Nordic Cooperation, so norweigians are allowed to move to the other of these counttries f
MOD PARENT DOWN (Score:2)
Scandinavia is Denmark, Sweden and Norway and sometimes Iceland (the ancient lands of the Norsemen), while the Nordic countries are Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland and Finland.
See here [lysator.liu.se] for more info.
Huh, Swedish domination? (Score:2)
Last time I checked the Danes dominated the Viking era. Cutting 'n' pasting from the execelent resource that is state.gov:
During the Viking period (9th-11th centuries), Denmark was a great power based on the Jutland Peninsula, the Island of Zealand, and the southern part of what is now Sweden. In the early 11th century, King Canute united Denmark and England for almost 30 years.
Danis
Similar Dutch initiative (Score:2)
Hey, I guess it's easier... (Score:2, Informative)
Germans are also considered "Nordic", so this is probably a misnomer. Scandinavian indicates non-German Nordic peoples who speak northern/western germanic languages with the exception of the Brittish Isles.
Yet another example of sacrificing accuracy for the sake of brevity.
Now the Italians will want to be called Romans.
Re: JOBS (Score:5, Funny)
It looks like you are infected with the Programmer.NoJob.FUD32 virus. Please apply this patch [opensource.org] immediately.
Regards,
admin@trollingfud.com
Re:JOBS (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:JOBS (Score:5, Insightful)
And why would people in the nordic countries even bother careing about that? It is not the responsibility of the nordic goverments to make sure you has a job - it is the responsibility of your goverment. Despite how much you may wish for it, it the world isn't here to provide the softwaregiants of the US with a ready marked for their badly translated programs.
Re:JOBS (Score:1)
You missed the point (Score:2)
I never said capitalism is a great system. It seems to work better than most others, but it does allow for plenty of
Re:JOBS (Score:1)
How could that be possible?
A quick whip around finds [google.com] him here [apple.com] and here [pixar.com].
Re:Open source gone too far. (Score:1)
Re:Open source gone too far. (Score:2)
For those who don't know: the Quebec Nordiques were the "other" Quebec hockey club, before they were *sob* sold.
Sad to see you've been moderated a troll...
a secret (Score:2)