OpenOffice 1.1 RC 1 Released 554
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xooo (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:xooo (Score:3, Informative)
Missing features still... (Score:4, Informative)
Less bloat, like Gnumeric (which yet scores over Excel)
Performance - It's a lot slower than MS Office, specially on Linux.
Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Funny)
You've run MS-Office on Linux? It was faster? Have you tried it with one of the newer 2.5.x kernels, you may notice a speed increase.
Cheers,
_GP_
Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Informative)
About 80% of my clients use Windows to run Office, mail and a bit of browsing. The speeds I measured were on the same system:
MS Office (Word) on MS Windoze : 100
Open Office on Windoze : 134
Open Office on Linux : 176
AbiWord on Linux : 27
MS Office (Excel) on MS Windoze: 100
Open Office on Windoze : 110
Open Office on Linux : 140
Gnumeric on Linux : 33
Both AbiWord and Gnumeric support the Windoze MS Office formats quite well. In short, I can't think of any reason to run OpenOffice on Linux systems - except for hyper-sensitive users.
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Re:Missing features still... (Score:2)
Re:Missing features still... (Score:3, Insightful)
But what's the task? Considering that AbiWord (good though it is) has only a subset of the features of Word and Open Office, you must just be comparing features that they share, which is never going to give the whole picture.
If you really have performed some benchmarks you should publish them properly but I suspect that your numbers are meanin
Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Informative)
All speeds are in seconds - MS Office speeds are pegged at 100 for scaling. For Word, I measured 'file- open speed' for 10-page files (there's little point in measuring 'editing' speeds). For Excel I opened 6 page spreadsheets with a bit of formulae. Again 'updating' and 'editing' speeds were not measured.
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Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Insightful)
Ah, scaling. I do believe that was Chapter 2 of How To Lie With Statistics. [amazon.com] (And thank you, Dr. Schlossnagel, for making that book required reading in your Statistics class.) How about some raw numbers? For all we know, the unscaled difference between MSO and OOo is as marginal as a Q3A benchmark between a GF FX 5900 Ultra and a Radeon 9800 Pro.
And were both MSO and OOo "quick loaders" used on Windows? (And do please note the spelling. You do want to be cited as a credible source, don't you?)
Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Funny)
Open Office on Linux : 176
For this to be really fair, you should be comparing Windoze to Linsux.
Re:Missing features still... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Missing features still... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Missing features still... (Score:2)
Refer reply [slashdot.org] to similar query. Thanks.
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Re:Missing features still... (Score:2, Informative)
It's slower than MS Office running on wine on linux. It starts up more slowly, it responds more slowly, it uses more memory. Is that clear enough for you?
Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Interesting)
AbiWord - It has the simplicity of Works. While that his not a bad thing, it is not the same as comparing to office.
Bloat - Integrated packages will always suffer from this more than stand alone products (Wordpad versus Office). And Gnumeric is limited in it does not support all the similar functions of Excel.
Performance - This is an old complaint that beyond opening I don't see. The MS Word application opens about twice as fast (I just tested it on Windows at 4 seconds versus 9 seconds), but once it is open the speed is not any different. As for the open, MS has the advantage of being able to give priority to their own applications at the base code level or taking advantage of "undocumented features."
Re:Missing features still... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Missing features still... (Score:3, Insightful)
Linus is working on it ? (Score:5, Interesting)
"For example, the latest patch that I worked on myself (as opposed to working on merging other people's stuff) was to get X11 and Mozilla to load faster by improving the read-ahead heuristics for page faulting in the executable images"
I hope this could also improve OO startup perf.
Re:Missing features still... (Score:2)
Re:Missing features still... (Score:4, Informative)
That said, I've been using 1.1b1 and 1.1b2 for some time now and have been quite pleased with the progress. With OOo 1.1, I finally moved my wife's computer from Win2K to Linux. No regrets.
Re:Missing features still... (Score:4, Insightful)
OpenOffice IS relatively new, even though its code is based on StarOffice. Give it some time and I'm sure they'll work out the speed issues. As for simplicity, well, if Abiword already fills the niche for a simple word processor, why do you want another? Why have yet another simple word processor when the world lacks one that is compatible with Microsoft Word, which has become the defacto standard?
Re:Missing features still... (Score:4, Funny)
> it is set to autoreplace the word lepton with leprechaun which is proving most annoying as I write my paper on particle physics.
Well, changing the dictionary or turning off auto-replace isn't exactly, er, rocket science.
Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Funny)
Well duh. If it was rocket science he'd have no problem.
-Adam
Re:Missing features still... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Missing features still... (Score:5, Insightful)
This raises an important issue. The main reason Microsoft is able to keep such a good grip on office-suites, is the file formats. Everything is kept in Microsoft Word og Excel-formats. It's all well and good that the alternatives can read and write these formats (though they're not perfect), but what we need, is an alternetive. We need an open format common to all word processors. The only format I know of that Word will read, is RTF. But RTF is rather limited. When I send a document from OO, I want to do it in an open format, readable by all (including Microsoft Word). These days, KOffice won't even read OO-documents.
Re:Missing features still... (Score:2)
if you need to print a paragraph, then abi might work
Is a 64-page proposal with snaked-columns and pictures and graphs, a paragraph???
if you need a simple spreadsheet, then sure try out gnumeric.
For your info., Gnumeric supports the same size as MS Excel - it in fact gives you a simple way to extend beyond 65536 elements - it's Excel which locks out users from this.
if you'd like something cross platform that's supported by a major hardware and software vendor, then go for
Great! (Score:5, Interesting)
That is what stops my household from using 1.0.x Instead we're still using Corel 7
Re:Great! (Score:4, Informative)
Dom
Re:Great! (Score:5, Insightful)
The only reason he'll even use openoffice at all is if he gets a file in email that corel won't open.
The technical ability do do something does not mean that your wetware will be compatible, especially if your method is tedious and painful. You learn that stuff after college.
Re:Great! (Score:3, Insightful)
new and improved! (Score:4, Funny)
So now it filters out MS Office documents better?
*drum hit*
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week
BitTorrent (Score:2, Insightful)
MS Office document filters? (Score:5, Funny)
So, how well do the MS Office document filters work with procmail and spamassassin?
Nice (Score:5, Insightful)
What I would like to read is a review of OpenOffice from some non-techie end user from a company that has switched to OO. Did the migration work seemlessly? Did the $ saved in software license measure up to the manhours the IT department had to use for support? Basically, a cost-benefit analysis, because a positive analysis like that is what it takes for the suits to recognize OO.
Re:Nice (Score:5, Interesting)
IT support manhours: Zero.
Re:Nice (Score:3, Informative)
Others (still in french): http://bureautiquelibre.org/ [bureautiquelibre.org]
Re:Nice (Score:2)
I've just started doing a monthly column for LinuxUser & Developer magazine in the UK. I think this would make a fantastic case study.
I'll speak to some clients who've done this and see if we can put one together...
Thanks!
btw - the short answer is yes, migration works and £s saved in licenses DO measure up.
Re:Nice (Score:5, Interesting)
We're using it to train people in basic computer usage and word processing, and to display a powerpoint XP presentation for the course, because we don't have the funds to buy new Office licenses for the latest batch of laptops we got for off-site courses.
MS Office "likeness" can be easily implemented by customising the toolbars (~1 hour to get it right), and is close enough that we've had few complaints from the people who (having looked terrified at the prospect of using a computer) started on OOo, and then moved to using Office XP at our main centre (where we already have licenses).
Speed wise, it's a little sluggish starting up on the salvaged P233/64mb laptops we use, but once it's started (15-30 seconds), there's no noticeable speed difference.
As ever there's the odd niggle, clipart works differently to MS Office (it would be nice to have a compatibility mode... I prefer the OOo way of using folders. Clients disagree, and prefer clear categories, and search function), and a few of the keys need re-mapping to work the same as the MS offerings, but overall, it's been a very successful trial, and saved us a couple of thousand in new Office licenses (even at charitable rates).
Re:Nice (Score:3, Insightful)
Talkback (Score:3, Interesting)
My experience (Score:5, Interesting)
Secondly its annoying that it naggs you if you save in
Finaly That lightbulb has got to go. It's a horrible paperclip clone. Other than that, it's great, and that PDF export is REALLY helpful.
Re:My experience (Score:2)
It's not proprietary AFAIK.
Re:My experience (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing can read them because nobody has written software to do this yet! Not because they can't! OOo has such a small market share right now, there's no point in anyone creating coversion filters yet. If it ever had a larger market share than MS Office, MS would be forced to support the format, in order to increase market share. Or they'd be silly not to.
Re:My experience (Score:3, Insightful)
If I have to hire a programmer to write a reader, then I may as well just stay with MS office.
I know this isn't the point you're making and that you don't want to hire a programmer to write a reader (and you're right that you should be able to get plug-ins from the OpenOffice website), but I just want to say that it an open format is better for human society than a closed format. The fact that you could hire a programmer to do what you want to do, thus retaining the exercise of your free will, is import
Re:My experience (Score:3)
Re:My experience (Score:2)
Adobe PDF writer (4): 9.8k
Adobe Distiller (4): 9.4k
Open Office 1.1: 95k
Obviously it had major issues. I mean the open office document it self is only around 8k (but zipped obviously). Aside from that I've b
Re:My experience (Score:5, Informative)
own proprietary format
Surely you mean it's own open format?
Re:My experience (Score:3, Informative)
No, it's own proprietary format, as in "designed by them, and only used by them".
Showstopper #1820 still open. (Score:5, Informative)
For the few unaware of this bug, in Calc, if your locale uses "," (comma) as a decimal separator, your numeric pad is worthless because the num pad "." (dot) is interepreted as something else than a decimal separator. You imagine how difficult it is to convert people using Excel when you must explain that they cannot use their num pad anymore. And before you suggest remapping keys, please read the bug report. Many non english locales are affected by this bug.
For enterprise deployment... (Score:5, Insightful)
That is the problem... (Score:5, Insightful)
Business Guy: I'd love to if you just has [feature] which MS has and makes my life a lot easier.
OSS Community: Create it yourself, lamer.
Business Guy: Hello, Microsoft, I would like to order a 1000 computer site license for MS Office. Thanks.
Re:That is the problem... (Score:3, Troll)
There's a certain arrogance (moral and technical) in the Open Source communitity that means MS will be around for some time to come just yet.
Yes, things like "My Documents" may be stupid to *you*, but my mum knows where to find everything.
I just installed Mandrake 9.1 to play around with. Shutdown the PC? Sure, go to a Terminal session and type shutdown -now.
Mum, stick with windows. I don't need the support calls
Re: on the other side... (Score:5, Insightful)
What exactly do you expect to happen, perhaps something like this:
Business Guy: I'd love to if you just has [feature] which MS has and makes my life a lot easier.
OSS Community: oh yes, no problem, we just spent the last 6 months working in our free time to make this software, let me just take a few days off work to do that for you.
You are missing the entire point of OSS. If enough people wanted that feature then it would already be there. If just that company wants that feature then they can hire a coder to add it. They don't have some mystical right to demand features/upgrades just beacuse the software is open. What if they want a feature that ms office doesnt have?
Re:That is the problem... (Score:3, Insightful)
But if you turn it around things are no better.
Microsoft: We produce stable enterprise quality solutions for business. Buy our stuff.
Business Guy: I'd love to if you just had [feature] which [some other software that may or may not be open source] has and makes my life a lot easie
Did they fix the spell check (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Did they fix the spell check (Score:2, Informative)
The support for anything other than United Statesian English is pretty bad.
Actually, I've been using the Greek spellchecking and autocomplete features since the betas and they beat MS Office out of the water as far as my native language goes...
Manos
OpenOffice for Palm? (Score:4, Funny)
As more mobile devices appear in business markets (particularly new growth in the medical and industrial markets) I believe it is sound to include a strategy for atleast view if not edit capabilities for these smaller than life devices.
Get an Apple and enjoy computing again
scripting (Score:4, Interesting)
I wonder if ooo.org will work in perl or some other handy dandy scripting tool. For what I do at home, it's good enough now, though.
-t
Re:scripting (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:scripting (Score:2)
Besides, since when did an upgrade from, say, Office 95 to Office 97 not kill off a few macros and have to be rewritten!
A migration is a migration is a migration. All that matters is how you sell it to Management/Bean Counters
Re:scripting (Score:3, Interesting)
Changes since 1.1 beta 2 (Score:5, Informative)
# a "talkback" style crash reporter to collect stacktrace and error information
# new command line parameter -start to automatically start a presentation after the document is loaded
# ability to update existing OpenOffice.org 1.0.x single user installations
# support for drawing objects in headers and footers
# an example XSLT filter for Office 2003 XML format
# support for MS Excel 95 and older form controls
# UNO python bridge - python is now a first class language for creating UNO components for OpenOffice.org
# built in spell checking dictionaries for English (UK) and Italian
# built in hyphenation support for Danish, English (UK), German and Russian
# integrated Bitstream Vera fonts
# improved spelling suggestions using n-gram scoring
UNO (Score:3, Funny)
Skip You. Reverse. Draw Two. Draw Four. Skip You. UNO!
Big vs little improvements (Score:3, Insightful)
Programmers take note. The media (this includes Slashdot) will report the Big Features. But the users will love it for the little features. For a successfull release you need both Big Features (so that word of the release gets out) and little features (so that users will like it).
OpenOffice 1.0.3 behavior hopefully changed (Score:4, Informative)
For example, if I choose to open a tab-delimited
I noticed there's a setting in OO that let you select the default program to use. But I don't want to open any document in a "default" program, I want to open a document in the program I'm opening it with!
So right now, I have to go through the looong path of starting Calc stand-alone, File->Open, select the
I really hope I'm missing something here, or this behavior will be fixed in OO 1.1, because I really despise programs that think, no... assumes, they know more than you do. I was also shocked to once again have to disable the paper clip feature in OO! Only difference was that the current incarnation was now a light bulb and not a paper clip. What progress the world is making.
Re:OpenOffice 1.0.3 behavior hopefully changed (Score:2)
Hope this has saved you some time!
Re:OpenOffice 1.0.3 behavior hopefully changed (Score:3, Informative)
Normally a spreadsheet is exported as a list of common separated values. Even Excel can do this, but it has trouble exporting the data in the proper format with the right delimiters for importing into my CGI scripts. For converting *.xls to a comma delimited text file Open Office is the best thing I've ever us
Great for us, not yet for wide deployment... (Score:5, Interesting)
OO is *perfect* for a large range of users, it handles all the bases and it's interoperability with the rest of the world (i.e. MS Office) is 'good enough'.
A significant proportion of users like it better than "the real thing" - heh, heh
When a user comes down to the IT department asking for a copy of 'Office' for home it is the perfect opportunity for evangelism ("We can't let you have office, it's £500, but you can have this for free - it's almost as good, so you won't even see much difference").
Management/Bean Counters *love* it - if you can lose £200-£500 *per desktop* every 3 years they'll think you can walk on water - especially if you've just lost them a few £100k off the cost of their back-end systems
HOWEVER...
Much a I have unbridled enthusiasm for OO, and I believe it is an essential part of Open Source's killer nature, it is *not yet* a no brainer for the enterprise.
Try giving it to a secretary. Worse yet, give it to a whole department of them. You will not get our ALIVE.
OO needs much stronger mailmerge capabilities. Then it will be awesome from the secretarial point of view. Until then they would rather die than give up MS Office.
OO, or a seperate project also needs a replacement for 'Access'. Yes I know we should be moving them to LAMP (and in fact we do a lot of this ourselves), but the honest truth is there are sh*t loads of companies out there with hundreds of little access applications. This is our market too.
Anyway, as I said, YMMV
Re:Great for us, not yet for wide deployment... (Score:3, Interesting)
In the early 80s the secretaries were certain that should they type a document it could just "disappear." And backups? They did not need to backup the typewriter, so why do I have to do something on the computer I did
Re:Great for us, not yet for wide deployment... (Score:2)
This is why that 'management mandate' is the key that unlocks the next phase of Open Source deployment. We must learn how to speak in ways that convince 'management'.
Re:Great for us, not yet for wide deployment... (Score:2, Informative)
There is one it's called mysql, check out the trail of tears [linuxworld.com] article at linuxworld. I find it funny that all his problems are attributable to RedHat's piss-poor package management system (or any Linux distro for that matter). I did it using FreeBSD as the server with no hassles, on a mixed FreeBSD and windows network.
Re:Great for us, not yet for wide deployment... (Score:2)
As you say, the OO tool is great, I use it plenty myself. It's just that it's not *yet* as simple/easy to use as Access. The day will come however, the day will come...
Re:Great for us, not yet for wide deployment... (Score:3, Informative)
Secretaries are a *real* conservative bunch and likely to p*ss themselves if you so much as mention csv files. For you and me this is a great thing. For them, if it deviates too far from the current (read MS) way, it's a no-no.
Thanks again for the tip, I'll look into it.
Customization (Score:2)
So, what kind of developmet does Open Office allow? And does it support database intergration and intergration with Exchange?
Re:Customization (Score:4, Informative)
Read all about it. api.openoffice.org [openoffice.org] udk.openoffice.org [openoffice.org]
Go over to OOoForum.org [oooforum.org] , go into the Macros and API section and read what people are doing.
Go over to OOoDocs.org [ooodocs.org] , they also have a Macros and devlopment section.
You can write StarBasic code directly into OOo documents. You can write programs in Java to drive a running OOo, even on a different computer. (For example, a Java program on, say, Windows, telling an OOo running on Linux what to do.) You can write components in C++ or Java or Python.
The Python UNO bridge is new. I haven't tried it yet. I believe you can do anything with Python that you could do with Java or C++ in OOo. StarBasic is limited in that you cannot create new components, it lacks sophisticated data structures, and you can only embed it within documents. The other languages cannot be embedded within documents (yet). I'm hoping to someday be able to embed Java classes or Python within an OOo document, just like I can with StarBasic macros.
Be sure to download the SDK. Read the documentation, especially the developer's guide. The first big learning curve is to understand UNO. This is pretty much a prerequisite for everything else. Once you do though, you're on your way.
Oh yeah, on languages that can access OOo. If you're on Windows, you can use Windows Automation. This means you can access it from, say, Visual Basic. I have seen OpenOffice.org programmed from Visual FoxPro.
One of the more worrying new features... (Score:3, Interesting)
...is the addition of a progress bar to the splash screen. (See this page [openoffice.org], under "Other Enhancements", near the bottom.) This would normally be a sign that your code is getting a wee bit bloated.
That said, I use OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 a lot at home, and am very pleased with it. It is slow to start, but is quite fast afterwards, and normally I have it running all the time. (This is on a 1.3GHz Athlon with 512Mb, running Mandrake 9.1.) I use mostly the wordprocessor, with a bit of the spreadsheet, and for my relatively simple needs, I've yet to find anything it can't do.
I've never owned a copy of MS Office, so the improvements in compatability with it will pass me by. Occasionally, lusers send me Word documents, and OOo already does a good job of getting the gist across. Most of the time, they're not saying anything that couldn't be said just as effectively in plain text. If the formatting is too complicated for OOo to unmangle, well... the document probably wasn't worth reading anyway :-p
PDF support? (Score:2)
Truth from the Wife is PC Illiterate Dimension (Score:4, Interesting)
Just tried it... (Score:3, Interesting)
So far, she has been able to do whatever she needed in OO, and has not come across any limitations in terms of it's capabilities.
My first impression of it was that it seems to be up to the task, but I didn't like how it started to prompt for Data sources when I first started it.
Cool feature, maybe.. but let me find that stuff when I want it, not when I want to play with the tool and see what it does.
Other than that small gripe, it's probably gonna go on any new boxes I build, unless a customer asks otherwise
Come on guys, it's free! (Score:4, Insightful)
-Scott
Re:Come on guys, it's free! (Score:5, Insightful)
If your attitude is "It's free so it's OK for it to suck" then do you not think there's any reason to make open source software that's as good or better than commercial stuff?
It's fine that it's good enough for small companies and schools. But it'll be even better when, one day, it's good enough to displace MS Office in really large enterprises! It won't get there if everyone is just saying "It's good enough for gramma to write letters, let's stop working on it."
Re:Come on guys, it's free! (Score:3, Insightful)
Perhaps nerds aren't used to expressing gratitude for near-perfect systems, as they tend to continue to work on a program until it is perfect in their eyes.
Installed last night (Score:4, Informative)
OpenOffice.org 1.0.3 crashed upon trying to open it. This is a Word doc that was exported from OO.org 1.0.3... how sad is that? I installed 1.1RC1 and it was just fine though. So I'd guess the import is improved.
Installing RC1 on her system was rather more difficult... since the installer kept bombing about a UNICOWS.DLL error. Yes, the solution was easy to find on the website, but why not have a more useful error message than that in the first place? If it's a FAQ, it should be reasonable to integrate the error message into the installer rather than confuse the user. Most people will get an error like that and say screw it and go back to Word/Works/whatever.
And while they're tweaking... (Score:5, Insightful)
They are still ignoring a really big, important feature: BIBLIOGRAPHY. The built-in bibliography "manager" SUCKS large rocks through capillary tubes. It is NOT useful in any way, shape, or form.
If you are a high school or college student, or a professional who actually gives proper attribution rather than flat-out plaigerizes, or write scientific papers (biology, for instance - physics and math people use latex/lyx, end of story) you MUST provide references in your papers Research papers for class, papers for submission to professional journals, publications for dissemination online...all require references and a properly formatted reference list.
I am a biochemist. I recently gave an Impress presentation to my colleagues on my research. Afterwards, a few had questions on what I was using...they noted that I was using linux on my laptop. I told them about OO/StarOffice. They were interested but ultimately I had to disabuse them of the idea of using it to replace Office because OO/SO cannot do references properly. These people use Office with EndNote so they can create a properly formatted and REFERENCED document for publication. Without reference management (ala EndNote-like capability) OO/SO is useless to them. A non-starter. I myself never use OO/SO for writing. I use Lyx plus pybliographer because between the two, I can relatively easily create a proper document with properly formatted references with ease. Can OO/SO do this? Not. Even. Close.
OO/SO is nifty for doing "powerpoint-like" presentations and the Calc function is minimally useful (for real work I have to use gnumeric because it has some nice, handy scientifically relevant functions and capabilities that Calc lacks). For writing a letter or some similarly low-power document, OO/SO is fine. For real writing, Lyx/latex...because it is the only thing in the linux world up to the task.
For god's sake! SOMEONE in the wordprocessing world (Textmaker, Gobe, OO/SO, etc) add the ability to manage references! This includes a SIMPLE means of inserting a citation or citations into a doc AND auto-generate configurable reference pages to go with it - not all journals or departments, etc, use the same citation and reference page formatting. Quit with the crap like adding a progress bar during startup (what the fuh?!) and do something worthwhile and actually useful. Add a real functional improvement rather than just more window dressing.
Re:And while they're tweaking... (Score:3, Insightful)
Are you as dense as you seem? Yes, there was a day when there were only typewriters and everything was done by hand. Before that, it was all done by hand, for real, with pen and paper. Do you really suggest that this is an answer? With windoze and office/endnote, you have a simple, fast means of collecting, organizing, and utilizing references for writing researched documents. Such is the whole point of computers, to make such tasks (and others) EASIER. What planet are you on?
Write a thesis in a sci
Filters have definitely improved, but fonts... (Score:3, Interesting)
Opening the same sheet with Oo.o 1.1beta1 & 2, tood a few seconds (didn't time it), and the cells were parsed correctly.
But, my adobe type1 fonts are now missing from the selection pulldown!
Download links, features list (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.binarycode.org/openoffice/s table/1.1rc/ OOo_1.1rc_Win32Intel_install.zip
http://www.ibibl io.org/pub/packages/openoffice/sta ble/1.1rc/OOo_1.1rc_Win32Intel_install.zip
ftp:// ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/openoffice/stable/1.1rc/ OOo_1.1rc_Win32Intel_install.zip
http://openoffic e.mirrors.pair.com/stable/1.1rc/OO o_1.1rc_Win32Intel_install.zip
ftp://openofficeor g.secsup.org/pub/software/openof fice/stable/1.1rc/OOo_1.1rc_Win32Intel_install.zip
ftp://mirrors.umbc.edu/pub/editors/openoffice/st ab le/1.1rc/OOo_1.1rc_Win32Intel_install.zip
Linux Downloads:
http://www.binarycode.org/openoffice/s table/1.1rc/ OOo_1.1rc_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz
http://www.ib iblio.org/pub/packages/openoffice/sta ble/1.1rc/OOo_1.1rc_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz
ftp
http://openof fice.mirrors.pair.com/stable/1.1rc/OO o_1.1rc_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz
ftp://openoffic eorg.secsup.org/pub/software/openof fice/stable/1.1rc/OOo_1.1rc_LinuxIntel_install.tar
ftp://mirrors.umbc.edu/pub/editors/openoffice
MacOSX Downloads:
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo- osx_download s.html#download
New features in OpenOffice.org 1.1rc over OpenOffice.org beta2 release
* a "talkback" style crash reporter to collect stacktrace and error information
* new command line parameter -start to automatically start a presentation after the document is loaded
* ability to update existing OpenOffice.org 1.0.x single user installations
* support for drawing objects in headers and footers
* an example XSLT filter for Office 2003 XML format
* support for MS Excel 95 and older form controls
* UNO python bridge - python is now a first class language for creating UNO components for OpenOffice.org
* built in spell checking dictionaries for English (UK) and Italian
* built in hyphenation support for Danish, English (UK), German and Russian
* integrated Bitstream Vera fonts
* improved spelling suggestions using n-gram scoring
OpenOffice.org 1.1 RC Features
2003-07-11
Enhanced file format support
* PDF (Portable Document Format) export
* Support for mailing a document as PDF.
* DocBook/XML import/export.
* XHTML export.
* Support for exporting as a flat XML file.
* Support for Macromedia Flash (SWF) export.
* Support for mobile device formats like AportisDoc (Palm), Pocket Word and Pocket Excel.
* Example xslt based filter for Office 2003 XML documents
Accessibility
* Support for full keyboard navigation and control
* Support for tracking system colour scheme and theme settings
* Support for accessibility in the help system and documents
* Initial support for Assistive Technologies via Java accessibility APIs
Internationalization
CTL, vertical and bidirectional writing
* Support for vertical writing within text documents, text frames and graphic objects
* Support for vertical writing in spreadsheet cells (the direction is individualy selectable)
* Support for input, display and editing of scripts using Complex Text Layout (CTL)
* Support for RTL layout and text in the OpenOffice.org GUI
* Support for BiDi-writing in OpenOffice.org documents
* Support for using either Arabic or Hindi numerals
* The RTL vs. LTR default text direction is automaticly selected based on locale
Other Internationalization enhancements
* Support for various 8-bit Arabic and Hebrew text encodings / code pages.
* Support for the KOI8_U encoding.
* New CTL options tab in language options dialog.
* Rescue mode support for BiDi/CTL with X11 fonts.
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Needed features (Score:3, Interesting)
2) A Mail and calendar application that is integrated. Yes Mozilla is partially integrated - but the Mozilla Calendar doesn't work properly.
Currently it is crippled and needs some work. It should support ITIP, read emailed Outlook events, and ftp for calendar entries (not just webdav).
2) Integrated GNUe small business accounting software to be released (and work). Eventually all small businesses want to use the addressbook from their accounting software.
4) OpenOffice needs to be more accessible to programmers. It is difficult for developers to get started and contribute to this project as it is so large and complex.
5) OpenOffice to start quicker in linux like the Ximian Hack but faster.
6) A Lotus Approach/MS Access/FileMaker Pro replacement
7) Prettier icons. Compare kwrite to oo write. The icons are much prettier - and that stuff sells.
Re:#1 Problem (Score:3, Informative)
What rock have you been hiding uder?
Re:This is really great (Score:2, Funny)
I've written a simple bash script to halve the ping times. If you want it, just send $5 and the output format of your ping-command.
Re:This is really great (Score:4, Funny)
Have you greased your Modem lately? Most of the latency you experience is because of rust.
Re:This is really great (Score:2)
>Linux on the desktop still barely has the functionality of Windows 3.1. Win3.1 still has a more tightly integrated clipboard
When was mod-clipboard released?
If you don't even know whether you're talking about linux, KDE or GNOME, I suggest that the terrorists - sorry, Microsoft - have already won.
Re:This is really great (Score:2)
If the sub-pixel rendering looks blurry, your distro is probably using freetype compiled without the bytecode interpreter (blame software patent stupidity), or the application you're using has been statically linked against a version of freetype so compiled (e.g. the OpenOffice binaries, last time I looked at 1.0.3).
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Re:This is really great (Score:3, Insightful)
What I can't stand about Windows is all the people telling me how great it is, and most of them do not even know how to UNINSTALL some shit software that they have installed. These same people do not even pay for the software that they claim is soooooo great.
Mark this as a troll
Re:Speed Complaints? and Beta vs. Release Candidat (Score:2)
That makes sense actually. The PHB reads about "this OpenOffice thing" in a trade mag & tells IT to test it "on one of our old computers." So it gets tested on a 450 PII instead of on the P-4's that MS Office is routinely run on. And the IT director's report back to the PHB is, "It's slow."
Re:Here is a mirror (Score:3, Funny)
my boss was coming when I clicked on the link!
I will check twice before clicking a link in comments now
Re:OS X Open Office (Score:5, Insightful)
I was going to moderate on this article, then I saw that, and I was going to mod you down. Then I thought I'd reply, which seems to be the logical thing to do actually, because the rest of the context isn't so bad.
Saying that it doesn't matter how big files get is wrong. Files should become MORE efficient, and filesizes should only increase if the QUALITY of the data increases (here it's mostly file metadata, and AV applications, that I'm thinking about).
Now, saying that a perfectly good format like PDF does not need some kind of efficient compression is wrong. The reason there are variances between Adobe PDF and "free" PDF is that Adobe have a better default compression setup, maybe even a proprietary compression algorithm, and it produces for their reader, not just a generic reader. PDF should make files smaller and smaller, based on common criteria like : format for screen display, format for print, format for archive...
Keep images out of PDFs, just put text, and you'll see it's pretty efficient, and a gain on Postscript. Stick some image in there, and don't think about embedding it as a JPEG or whatever (as you can do with AdobePDF) and downsampling it to 72dpi if it's not a print version, and away ye go. Maybe free versions can do this but I would bet it's not as intuitive.
But please, don't start claiming that documents can just keep getting bloated and it won't matter. This will only serve to further screw the less-well-connected into expensive bandwidth hell.
Re:What the people want is... (Score:3, Insightful)
I guess you've been living partly under a rock then. Commercial alternatives to Exchange already exists and open source versions are under development and will soon be available. Take a look at http://kroupware.org/ [kroupware.org] and http://opengroupware.org/ [opengroupware.org]
Re:word count... (Score:3, Informative)
(it's something like that, i dont have it infront of me)
You could even insert a wordcount field and hit F9 every now and then.
I second that (Score:3, Interesting)
I tried version 1.0 and almost immediately switched to koffice (on linux). (At work, I tinkered with OO and AbiWord, but for the most part I have to stick with department standards, so I still have MS Word there.)
I recently installed the 1.1 beta, and it was dramatically better. Documents that choked 1.0 opened perfectly in 1.1. It even does a great job at handling PowerPoint presentations. (The main glitch I've noticed is it do