.ZIP Standard to Fragment?

.ZIP Standard to Fragment? 627

Posted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:02PM from the after-so-many-years dept.

fudgefactor7 writes "As IDG.NET tells us, the venerable .ZIP compression standard is about to undergo a bit of a schism. PKWare and WinZip, the "big two" in the .ZIP format biz are (unfortunately) going to be making their respective releases incompatible (to an extent) and an archive made with one may not be accessible from another. The problem lies with PKWare not giving information to WinZip, thus making WinZip to go it alone."

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*sigh* (Score:3, Funny)

by Vengeance ( 46019 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:04PM (#6162210)

boys, boys, boys... Let's all stop the fussin' and a feudin'

I LOVE you Winzip!
I LOVE you, PKZip!

*hugs all around*

There, isn't that better?

How annoying! (Score:5, Funny)

by Junior J. Junior III ( 192702 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:04PM (#6162213) Homepage

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to keep using WinRAR.

Compatibility (Score:2, Funny)

by garrulous ( 653996 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:09PM (#6162285)

"The problem lies with PKWare not giving information to WinZip, thus making WinZip to go it alone."

Compression employed on this sentence may cause incompatibility with standard English.

Re:IDG mirrored below (Score:1, Funny)

by Angry White Guy ( 521337 ) writes: <CaptainBurly[AT]goodbadmovies.com> on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:09PM (#6162288)

"Certificate-based encryption is still a work in progress," says Jim Peterson, PKZip chief technology officer. "We're not publishing it because we still have a number of features to add to Taco's Backside."

Great job, +2 so far.
Moderators, it's only informative if you actually read it...

best Winzip feature (Score:5, Funny)

by Mantorp ( 142371 ) writes: <mantorp 'funny A' gmail.com> on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:10PM (#6162292) Homepage Journal

switching the locations of the I accept and Quit buttons every time you open it.

Your joking!?!? (Score:5, Funny)

by altp ( 108775 ) * writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:10PM (#6162310)

What? you mean there's competing closed source applications on windows that break compatibility with each other.

Surely, you jest.

Altp.

D - M - C - A (Score:5, Funny)

by siskbc ( 598067 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:11PM (#6162311) Homepage

What about reverse engineering? If hordes of *nix programmers can do it why can't Winzip do it? Legal issues? ...?
Can I get a D?!?! D!!! Can I get an M?!?! M!!! Can I get a C?!?! C!!! Can I get an A?!?! A!!!
What's that spell!?!? Tyranny! What's that spell!?!? Bunch of assholes in Congress! What's that spell!?!? Lack of Innovation!
Dunno if either side would be big enough assholes to try it, but why couldn't you use DMCA there?

Re:Depends on how they handle it (Score:5, Funny)

by H0ek ( 86256 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:11PM (#6162318) Homepage Journal

Hey, perhaps they can use the extension .WIP

Seems to accurately reflect the idea that WinZip is still a Work In Progress, eh?

Re:More importantly.. (Score:5, Funny)

by kindbud ( 90044 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:18PM (#6162397) Homepage

What will my unix *zip programs be compatible with?

Zip.

Re:Splitting Those ZIPs (Score:4, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:19PM (#6162404)

anybody hitting those limits is a lamer or a file sharing pirate, probably both. kids these days. thank god for the mpaa and the riaa.

Re:Phil Katz .. the most depressing guy ever (Score:4, Funny)

by Mr_Silver ( 213637 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:19PM (#6162406)

From http://www.jsonline.com/news/State/may00/katz21052 000a.asp [jsonline.com]:
The genius who built a multimillion-dollar software company known worldwide for its pioneering "zip" files had died of acute pancreatic bleeding caused by chronic alcoholism.
Bizarre, I get pancreatic bleeding whenever I read any of John Katz's old articles.
Wonder if they are related.

Re:More importantly.. (Score:4, Funny)

by holt ( 86624 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:23PM (#6162444) Homepage

Wait... is "usaly" the bzip2 compressed version of usually?

Re:More importantly.. (Score:4, Funny)

by haystor ( 102186 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:30PM (#6162512)

ys

Re:*sigh* (Score:5, Funny)

by Alizarin Erythrosin ( 457981 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:31PM (#6162524)

Pretty funny coming from a guy named Vengeance...

Remember these? (Score:5, Funny)

by wumarkus420 ( 548138 ) writes: <wumarkus&hotmail,com> on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:36PM (#6162591) Homepage

I vote we go back to LZH, ARJ, or ARC

I miss the BBS days where you needed about 10 compression programs.

This just in: MS-DOS Standard To Fragment!!! (Score:3, Funny)

by ites ( 600337 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:36PM (#6162592) Journal

Reliable news sources (possibly an Iraqi Minister of Information, or worse, a White House Official) tell us that due to disagreements between Digital Research and Microsoft, the latest MS-DOS release (11.2a) will no longer be compatible with DR-DOS 11.x.
All five remaining DOS users are likely to be severely complacement. For more information on this stunning development, we asked...

Re:More importantly.. (Score:3, Funny)

by IdleTime ( 561841 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:38PM (#6162616) Journal

Well, I heard that the new encrypted zip archives from PkWares program will have a new extension, .piz

Aww great.. (Score:5, Funny)

by TeknoHog ( 164938 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:39PM (#6162620) Homepage Journal

People who break compression standards should be tarred and gzipped... I mean feathered.

Re:More importantly.. (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:39PM (#6162623)

A good example is OpenOffice.org, just look at the amount of supported (and completely different) formats!

Too bad it doesn't handle OpenOffice documents very well.

Re:Zip encryption's pretty useless, anyhow. (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:51PM (#6162758)

Every protected zip Iâ(TM)ve ever seen has the same key: IAMANADULT.

Re:Karma-Burning Gripe on Link Style (Score:3, Funny)

by DrVxD ( 184537 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @01:54PM (#6162779) Homepage Journal

But since 99.9% of /. readers never follow the links and assume that the whole story is in the headline, who cares?

PKware's still around? (Score:2, Funny)

by gstevens ( 209321 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @02:01PM (#6162850)

PKWare is still in business?

Long live 2.04g!

hmm (Score:5, Funny)

by Suppafly ( 179830 ) writes: <slashdot@sup p a f l y .net> on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @02:07PM (#6162938)

luckily, most people stopped using pkware when they stopped using dos, so this doesn't present a problem.

Re:I thoiught they were already irrelevant.... (Score:2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @02:51PM (#6163411)

"since the days of MS-DOG^HS passing"

haw haw haw!

get it?

because - hahahaha
MS-
DOG? but then, I inserted a BACKSPACE SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT I WAS TYPING BUT THEN COULD DO THE BACKSPACE IN YOUR HEAD TO SEE WHAT I ACTUALLY WROTE!

Pure hilarity!

MS-DOG!
HAAHHAHAHAHA

Oh no! (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @02:52PM (#6163419)

You just told Microsoft they need to create their own incompatible Zip format!

Re:Splitting Those ZIPs (Score:2, Funny)

by Mr Z ( 6791 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @02:56PM (#6163460) Homepage Journal

I was finally fixed in a later service pack for Win2K, but NT4 suffers on.

I wonder how your signficiant other (or would-be significant other if you presently lack one) feels about Microsoft now, given they 'fixed' you. Now I know where their company name comes from, going around 'fixing' people. ;-)
--Joe

Re:Splitting Those ZIPs (Score:5, Funny)

by timeOday ( 582209 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @02:57PM (#6163470)

Yeah, that's what the .gz.tar format is for.

Re:Phil Katz .. the most depressing guy ever (Score:2, Funny)

by MolecularBear ( 469572 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @03:20PM (#6163759)

Geez, sounds like he wasn't running a tight operation. All the girls in MY stripper-entourage are trained to drive me immediately to the hospital once I start puking blood and urinating uncontrollably.

Re:Splitting Those ZIPs (Score:3, Funny)

by dipipanone ( 570849 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @03:55PM (#6164116)

Now I know where their company name comes from, going around 'fixing' people.

This is clearly one area where MS have learned from Eunuchs.

Nico Mak?! (Score:4, Funny)

by leshert ( 40509 ) writes: on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @10:10PM (#6167381) Homepage

I've used WinZip, and it's nice and all, but I just have a hard time using a product from a company with that name [insultmonger.com] (third entry from the top).

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sigh (Score:3, Funny)

How annoying! (Score:5, Funny)

Compatibility (Score:2, Funny)

Re:IDG mirrored below (Score:1, Funny)

best Winzip feature (Score:5, Funny)

Your joking!?!? (Score:5, Funny)

D - M - C - A (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Depends on how they handle it (Score:5, Funny)

Re:More importantly.. (Score:5, Funny)

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Re:Phil Katz .. the most depressing guy ever (Score:4, Funny)

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Re:sigh (Score:5, Funny)

Remember these? (Score:5, Funny)

This just in: MS-DOS Standard To Fragment!!! (Score:3, Funny)

Re:More importantly.. (Score:3, Funny)

Aww great.. (Score:5, Funny)

Re:More importantly.. (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Zip encryption's pretty useless, anyhow. (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Karma-Burning Gripe on Link Style (Score:3, Funny)

PKware's still around? (Score:2, Funny)

hmm (Score:5, Funny)

Re:I thoiught they were already irrelevant.... (Score:2, Funny)

Oh no! (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Splitting Those ZIPs (Score:2, Funny)

Re:Splitting Those ZIPs (Score:5, Funny)

Re:Phil Katz .. the most depressing guy ever (Score:2, Funny)

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Nico Mak?! (Score:4, Funny)

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Your joking!?!? (Score:5, Funny)

D - M - C - A (Score:5, Funny)

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Remember these? (Score:5, Funny)

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Aww great.. (Score:5, Funny)

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Re:Zip encryption's pretty useless, anyhow. (Score:1, Funny)

Re:Karma-Burning Gripe on Link Style (Score:3, Funny)

PKware's still around? (Score:2, Funny)

hmm (Score:5, Funny)

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Oh no! (Score:1, Funny)

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