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How Google Grows...and Grows...and Grows 278

orangerobot writes "The latest issue of Fast Company has an article about how Google has managed to survive beyond its peers and develop a culture of openness and innovation. The article also mentions Google memes and spin-offs such as: Googlewhack, Googlebombing, Googleshare, Googlism and Google Smackdown."
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How Google Grows...and Grows...and Grows

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  • Re:Googlewhack? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Conspiracy Theorist ( 250373 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @10:05AM (#5535988)
    A google search of two terms that only results in one hit. Unfortunately observing and documenting a googlewhack on the web usually results in it losing it's googlewhack status.
  • by RLiegh ( 247921 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @10:08AM (#5536006) Homepage Journal
    The last two that I can remember visiting are yahoo (which is google with a layer of yahoo on top) and dogpile, which I wasn't satisfied with.

    What I find odd is that I am the only person I know who does use google, and has for some time. My family uses whatever comes with aol, and my ex-gf used to use altavista.
  • by John_Renne ( 176151 ) <zooi@@@gniffelnieuws...net> on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @10:19AM (#5536077) Homepage
    Google is one of the finest search-engines around but I use several different search-engines quit often. There's Kartoo [kartoo.com] that has great looks and vivisimo [vivisimo.com] that has the abillity to group results.
  • by MrScience ( 126570 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @10:26AM (#5536119) Homepage
    Might I point you to what I feel is the superior news.google.com [google.com]
    and
    the fact that google does maps [google.com]?
  • niche search engines (Score:4, Informative)

    by blinder ( 153117 ) <blinder...dave@@@gmail...com> on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @10:40AM (#5536219) Homepage Journal
    I use google, but I find using niche search engines to be much more useful. Google is great for getting a bajillion returns, and the first 2 or 3 pages worth are mostly relevant, but for specifics I use some of the niche search engines. A good one is diysearch [diysearch.com] and sites like Outersound [outersound.com] for finding indy music and other resources.

    Yeah, it takes a bit more work to find these niche search engines/resources, but they are out there, and the noise is much much lower.

    Just my $.02

  • by dissy ( 172727 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @11:04AM (#5536397)
    > Funny that the article didn't mention the fact that Google's lawyers recently
    > asked [linguistlist.org] Paul McFedries to remove the word 'google' from his
    > excellent wordspy [wordspy.com] lexicon. A company that 'gets it' indeed.

    Erm, thats odd, because that never happened. Did you just make that up on the spot or did it take you a while to prepare?

    Google asked them to change their definition of 'google' from "To search for something" to "To search for something using the google search engine"

    But they never once _DEMANDED_ that they remove the word google.

    The wordspy.com listing was clearly incorrect.
    Google simply corrected them.

    So no its not too funny that the article didnt mention lies and FUD. Its a refreshing change actually.

    What I _do_ find funny is you even link right to the article that proves me right and your own statements wrong! Did you even read it?

    Direct quote from the article you linked:
    > we want to make sure that when people use "Google," they are referring
    > to the services our company provides and not to Internet searching
    > in general.

    The email then ends with:
    > We ask that you help us to protect our brand by deleting the definition of
    > "google" found at wordspy.com or revising it to take into account the
    > trademark status of Google.

    Hell, even keeping the clearly wrong and incorrect definition would be OK with google if they simply added a (TM) mark after the word Google from how their email reads!

  • by larien ( 5608 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @11:07AM (#5536414) Homepage Journal
    It's not a monopoly, it's a good product.
    Just because it's a good product doesn't prevent it from being a monopoly.
  • by Snork Asaurus ( 595692 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @11:08AM (#5536418) Journal
    I just gave them a quick spin. Here's my highly subjective eval based on 2 minutes of use:

    Vivisimo [vivisimo.com] Light google-ish interface. "Clustered Results" is neat idea and may be quite useful. Seems a little light in the hits department, but so is every new search engine. Time will tell.

    Kartoo [kartoo.com] Ugly. Requires Flash - bad move - game over.

  • by garcia ( 6573 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @11:10AM (#5536433)
    the fact that it does phone numbers to address/name mapping?

    my old address and phone number [slashdot.org], and the address is wrong, but that was the phone companies fault :)
  • by garcia ( 6573 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @11:14AM (#5536453)
    sorry, I even did a "preview".

    Here's the corrected URL [google.com]
  • by generic-man ( 33649 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @12:09PM (#5536848) Homepage Journal
    Google doesn't do maps. It provides you with a link to sites that do have maps. One of these sites is -- surprise! -- Yahoo! Maps. Yahoo! Maps provides driving directions. Google provides links to driving directions [google.com] from Mapquest and Yahoo! Maps.

    Likewise, Google News is a disjointed mess. Many news searches turn up page after page of 404 errors because most external news sites delete their pages after 2-3 weeks.
  • by WolfWithoutAClause ( 162946 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @12:11PM (#5536868) Homepage
    It's not a monopoly, it's a good product.

    No. It's a monopoly (I think) and it's a good product.

    There's nothing inherently illegal or immoral about monopolies.

    On the other hand, certain things that some monopolistic companies try to do are illegal, only because they are monopolies; if a non monopolistic company had done it, they'd be fine.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @01:19PM (#5537482)
    Cool on the Vivisimo. I've kept Northern Lights in my search list, primarily because of this function, even though they've sucked during the last 2 years. I also love Kartoo--much better than other sites that do similar with Java Applets. I find the Flash interface to be faster than Java, and not as trouble prone across browsers. But when more and more of your searches become about how data relates to each other, you'll find brute force or even nicely weighed algorythmic lists, don't always cut it-- this is where Kartoo and Vivisimo work.
  • by Gorgonzola ( 24839 ) on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @01:30PM (#5537575) Homepage

    That still makes perfect sense since common usage of the term spam to describe unsolicited bulk e-mail only would dilute Hormel's Spam trademark if their product involved any form of e-mail. Since their business is processed pork and thus has no connection with e-mail whatsoever it is quite easy for them not to object to the usage of the term 'spam' for unwanted e-mail.

    Sometimes I wonder what's so bloody hard about trademark law that the slashdot geeks almost always get it wrong. Of all areas in law it has the most straightforward logic and one would suppose that it would be relatively easy for geeks to grok it.

    Remember this: from a legal perspective trademarks are about the ease of laying a connection between the product and it's producer in the consumer's mind. As long as consumer's won't be confused or won't be likely to make such a connection anymore, there is nothing the owner of the trademark can do about it (apart from intimidation through threatening with lawsuits).

    So Hormel's 'liberal' approach to spam and Google sending in the 'goons' are equally sensible approaches to completely different problems.

    But I am afraid I have spent too much time on the soapbox already, the slashbots are as likely to get it as the average pointy haired boss is likely to really grasp an technological issue.

  • by ceejayoz ( 567949 ) <cj@ceejayoz.com> on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @01:51PM (#5537768) Homepage Journal
    You'd have a valid point if Google didn't make you read this page [google.com] prior to downloading the toolbar. They couldn't have made it any clearer, IMO.

    "By using the Advanced Features version of the Google Toolbar, you may be sending information about the sites you visit to Google."

    "Google will not sell or provide personally identifiable information to any third parties."

    "We understand and respect your privacy concerns. By selecting this option, you will not have access to advanced functionality. However, no information about the sites you visit will be communicated to Google."


    Hell, you can even install it without the monitoring - no need to block it with a firewall.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 18, 2003 @04:25PM (#5539019)
    Google only keeps news events around for 30 days [google.com][google.com] which isn't that much longer than 2-3 weeks (which seems a little short in my experience.) I use google news all the time and rarely get 404's, but they do happen of course.

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