IBM To Repair Smoking Monitors 209
Rio writes "A local6.com story says IBM is recalling to repair 56,000 G51 and G51t computer monitors because the circuit board can overheat and smoke, posing a fire hazard. IBM has received several reports of monitors overheating and smoking, including one report of minor property damage, according to the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Comission." And I thought all that smoke was just my mobo overheating.
MMmm! (Score:5, Funny)
I'd like one of those monitors! I'll find myself some dremel and a steel girder to create the first monitor/grill combo ever! Steak anyone?
Don't let IBM change the subject! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Don't let IBM change the subject! (Score:2)
On a related side note, I had one of the recalled APC UPS units (the BK350 and BK500). It was recalled for almost the exact same reasons: Component gets too hot, melts exterior casing (plastic) coating whatever it touches, and possibly starts a fire. (rhetorical) Is the reason computer parts like monitors and UPSs are running so hot because they are now required to run overclocked to keep pace with the insane speed of today's CPUs? (/rhetorical) Other than the bum capacitor theory being tossed about, I can't think of any other realistic reason for this. QA departments around the globe need to start re-evaluating their testing procedures if these products are getting out the door into customers' hands.
Re:MMmm! (Score:2)
I assume thats how it is with any monitor, though.
In Soviet Russia, there is no need to worry, begauze even if you burn your monitor, you can always binge yourself on Vodka at McDonalds.
Re:MMmm! (Score:4, Informative)
Probably not a coincidence :-(
Well that's corporate civic-mindedness! (Score:3, Insightful)
They missed the marketing boat. (Score:5, Funny)
Great White (Score:1, Funny)
OT What kind of tech news site is this? (Score:5, Funny)
Man Who Allegedly Ate Cat's Tail Ruled Insane [local6.com]
and
Thousands Flock To See Gold Toilets [local6.com]
Re:OT What kind of tech news site is this? (Score:2)
why does everyone hate smokers? (Score:1, Funny)
Smoking monitors?! (Score:2, Offtopic)
Smoking? (Score:5, Funny)
*cough*
Soko
ob:Breakfast Club (Score:2)
GTRacer
- Best...bratpack movie...ever
What next? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What next? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What next? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What next? (Score:2)
Just kidding, I'm using an IBM hard drive myself, and it has never caused my any probl...hey what's that clicking nois&T%$%%%;%%:
Re:What next? (Score:2)
From what I could find out, the monitors were used in a lot of POS terminals, so there could be hundreds floating aroud that could be fixed for as little as 34 cents a pop.
if you can find any! (Score:2)
smoke (Score:2, Redundant)
Obligatory one liners (Score:1)
(on a side note, big kudos to IBM for actually being willing to fix the problem instead of just hiding it or merely announcing the problem without being willing to fix it)
They were probably made . . . (Score:3, Funny)
FLAME POST! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:FLAME POST! (Score:2)
Coincidental that I'm reading this since I litterly just got done boxing up a Deskstar drive for RMA less than 5 minutes ago. This is the second time I've sent "this" drive in for RMA. ("This" drive being the original purchase. "This" drive is a replacement for the first one that died.)
I'm not messing with these pieces of junk any more. I've never had hard-drive failures like this. I'm buying a replacement drive, probably WD, and as soon as this one comes back from RMA I'm auctioning it on Ebay. Feel sorry for the winner but wish them the best of luck with it.
Monitors (Score:4, Funny)
Do those smoking monitors have to be used outside in California?
Re:Monitors (Score:2)
Makes you wonder what the emissions tests are like on these bad boys.
Mobo? (Score:5, Funny)
Did you mean mojo? Yeah, Baby!
Re:Mobo? (Score:2)
Yeah, as if we want to hear about Taco's Mobo. I think I might skip lunch today.
Re:Mobo? (Score:3, Funny)
Well maybe Taco finally figured out that what works for Perl works for the bedroom as well...
"There's more than one way to do it"
Re:Mobo? (Score:2, Funny)
IBM (Score:3, Funny)
Maybe IBM should rethink its business focus. Perhaps they should manufacture baseboard heaters, toaster overs, wave solder baths...
Re:IBM (Score:3, Funny)
Man, if they had a strategic partnership with AMD, they'd OWN that market.
Re:IBM (Score:2)
Now, if we can just get them to... (Score:2)
Seriously, I had 2 drives (same manu. date/place) go within a day of each other. Coincidence? I think not. (Link goes to Class action lawsuit page)
anti-tobacco (Score:1)
So, IBM is catching up with the latest trends, huh?
monitors are in trouble (Score:3, Funny)
sounds like these monitors just bought themselves a first-class ticket to detention. They should have smoked in the bathroom where nobody would see them.
I blame the parents.
Nice to hear (Score:5, Insightful)
The PC market is flooded with second rate, faulty, poorly designed and nonfunctional hardware.
I once had an NEC monitor that burned out on me, had it replaced, that one burned out, replaced again, that one burned out ad nauseum - 5 in a row. By the 6th, they had stopped manufacturing them and I got a different one, which still works fine today.
I knew the monitor was designed poorly, they knew it was designed poorly (they only made 'em for like 6 months). Wouldnt a recall have been easier and cheaper than cross shipping me 5 replacements in a row?
Oh well. I just wish there were more corporations willing to stand behind their merchandise.
Re:Nice to hear (Score:3, Insightful)
The answer is no. If they had a recall they would have to recall every monitor not just yours. If it would have been cheaper, they would have done it like that. They are a company with accountants and what not. They know what is cheaper.
IBM is doing it's recall no doubt because they fear litigation. IBM did not recall it's crappy GNX series hard drives that fell apart, because they would not catch fire and expose IBM to a lawsuit.
Re:Nice to hear (Score:5, Interesting)
The PC market is flooded with second rate, faulty, poorly designed and nonfunctional hardware
Consumers want $1,000, $500, $300 PC's. What do you expect?
Let's go back in time a few years. The Pentium 133MHz had just come out, making the 120MHz look like a sweet deal. 16MB of RAM was pretty good, and 56K modems were all the rage. You'd get this kind of a deal for $1,999.
A monitor back then, 14" and 15" were standard, would cost you nearly $200. A 17" was a $350-$400 luxury. 19"? $500-700. And 21" monitors would cost you $1,000-$2,000!
Think about how cheap monitors are now. You can't GIVE away a 15". 17" are available for $69 after rebate from any retail store. 19" monitors are $200-$300. Once considered extravagant, 21" monitors are just a little more than the 17" monitors of yesterday. Hell, you can get a 15" LCD for $199.
The problem has always been quality. Sure, the bargain basement monitors work, but the colors are bad, they lack focus, and aren't the brightest, or are too bright.
The de facto standard has usually been the Sony Trinitron displays. I'd rather use a 3 year old Trinitron than a 1 year old bargain brand.
Now, the PC market is flooded with crappy monitors. (Not to mention OTHER components) Take a look at the Apple side of things, or the SGI/Sun workstations. They've had their share of bad products, but much of the OEM equipment is re-branded Sony models etc.
Re:Nice to hear (Score:2)
In 1977 you could pay $4000 for something that is outperformed by my wristwatch today (cost: $5). Prices go down as technology matures, and *especially* with volume. Old hard drives used to cost thousands - but really, once you've paid off the R&D, there's not much to them beyond $20 worth of electronics and some aluminum platters.
Sure, there is a lot of crap out there, but the days of $2400 for a 100% no-name PC are gone more because of volume (trust me, my Creative PCI sound cards not only do a whole bunch more but have lasted a lot longer than the Zoltrix pos that came with my 486).
Re:Nice to hear (Score:2)
Flaming Monitors (Score:2)
Once upon a time, I used to work for a large electronics retail chain that had just (finally) implemented a point-of-sale computer system about 10 years after introducing one of the first personal computers.
The point-of-sale system, affectionately known as the POS (and boy, was it ever!) used bare-bones diskless PCs as dumb terminals. The onboard video was good old fashioned TTL monochrome and the monitors we used were 13" monochrome monitors OEM'd by a large Korean congolomerate.
We started receiving reports of burnt out monitors from other stores and one day, as I walked by the sales counter, I noticed an acrid smell. I looked at the nearest POS terminal and sure enough, the monitor was smoking. We unplugged it and replaced it, but I never did hear of a recall of the monitors, and the retailer continued to sell the same monitors to customers.
Re:Flaming Monitors (Score:2)
Without either looking inside or checking a service manual you can't be sure that it was actually the same monitor. Far easier to quietly fix a design fault than issue a recall.
Paradigm shift (Score:3, Funny)
fire? (Score:5, Insightful)
If you have a smoke detection system that will set off sprinklers in the event of smoke....
then all your machines are Toast!
The solution is a pre-action system (Score:2)
We have sprinkler heads like everyone else, but the pipes feeding them are filled with compressed air. A special valve/air pump setup keeps the pipes pressurized and the water out until the alarm is set off by smoke. The pipes then fill with water but it takes a hundred mublemumble degrees to melt the sprinkler heads and dump water on everything.
The advantage is that you can have smoke OR heat (or a busted sprinkler head) and not douse the room with water. You need smoke AND heat to spray water -- any room that gets 150 degrees and is full of smoke has some pretty serious problems that sparing the water alone won't fix.
Re:fire? (Score:2)
Not everyone has ARGON or halon suppression systems. Many older buildings that people have their offices setup in actually do have sprinkler systems which are not allowed to be removed.
We used to have a big mainframe room that had a halon system that would fill the room with halon in the event of a fire. But we had to remove it eventually cuz it was a risk that had it gone off while anyone was in the room they would suffocate...
Guess what was required to put in instead?
Re:fire? (Score:2)
Almost all buildings have water systems. If they were not designed from the ground up to have a Data Center like room then every room will likely have it.
When a tennant leases a building the likely hood that they will use an existing room for their servers is high. The likely hood that they will actually do something about the water systems that may be in the rooms is not as high.
Many companies that dont have computers as their core business (like manufacturing) may not have the sense about them to look at all the risks to their systems in the event of even a small fire - one where the fire doesnt actually damage anything, but just sets off the sprinklers.
Re:fire? (Score:2)
Inevitable (Score:5, Funny)
Customer Support: Oh. Err... [looking at breakroom longingly] Is that an IBM monitor you have there, sir?
AOL Member: Why yes, it is.
Customer Support: Well, then that would be the new Smell-sation monitor feature, sir. It
AOL Member: Oh, wonderful! Thank you! [click]
Re:Inevitable (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Inevitable (Score:2)
And you would be the only customer who didn't like smoking boards.
Re:Inevitable (Score:2)
"It's much easier to mod me down than to post an intelligent reply."
An AC (aren't they all?) replies:
"Man, that sig is getting tired - If you were ever a moderator you'd know you cant post and moderate the same discussion. So, if I'm modding the channel I can't reply, and vice versa."
Of course I know this. It appears you're missing the point. Discussion is preferred to an add-nothing vote. I read Slashdot to see interesting commentary. Even crappy posts can get insightful replies, which are worth reading. I'm encouraging people to add to the signal, not the noise.
Unfortunately, people seem to think this is a not-too-subtle attempt to save my karma. To those people I'd suggest that they're way too interested in some fucking point system. Don't believe me?
GoatSe.cx [goatse.cx]. Moderators, please mod this post down. Everyone else
related news... (Score:5, Funny)
Somewhat OT...but... (Score:3, Funny)
We had a developer who was coding on a Dell Latitude w/ Dell's huge (and expandable) C/Dock-II. For those who don't know what that is, it's basically an expandable dock with which you can add PCI cards, SCSI, etc..
Anyway, the dock started smoking one day during his coding session. I just happened to be walking by and quickly unplugged it from the wall. Apparently a small capacitor inside the dock exploded and got all over everything, causing it to smoke.
We told the developer that because his code was so ineffecient, his compile had melted the dock.
He believed us! har har...
Re:Somewhat OT...but... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Somewhat OT...but... (Score:2)
Dell wanted to keep compatibility within their Latitude CP line, and did a pretty good job of it. The docks worked on all of the CP machines from the original P-200 upto the P3 mahines. All had compatible batteries, drives, and docking ports, and were built on the same chasis. But the similarities ended there.
Unfortunately, as the hardware evolved, it became increasingly difficult to build new machines around the existing hardware. Dell never bothered to add additional USB ports, intergrated modems, LAN, etc. to any of the models. They eventually made the chasis slightly wider for the PII models (for bigger 1024x768 screes), and thicker for the PIII models (more on that later)
The chasis eventually expanded to the maximum size which would physically fit into the C/Dock. Then they went thicker. The original P-200 models were light and relatively thin for their time (~4 pounds). By the time the PIIIs came around, they were big, thick, and weighed 8+ pounds.
I am currently typing this on a Latitude CPx. I can tell you that it has its share of problems due to bad design. With the new heat requirments of the PIII, they had to add a humungous heatsink to the design to properly cool the chip without having to modify the chasis, and break compatibility. Unfortunately, Dell put the fan on the back of the machine, smack up against the Dock. One night, I left my PC on in the dock. By the morning, the keys were gooey from the heat output. Even in it's undocked state, it's impossible to use "on your lap". To this day, the keys don't work properly due to the exessive heat the pressure-switches had to absorb.
Twoards the end of the line, the Docks became increasingly flaky with new hardware, and occasionally refuse to power up, or assigns phony IRQs to devices which don't exist (P3 chipsets were obviously quite different than P1 chipsets). The docks got hot, overheated, etc. The computers apparently also had a speed-control mechanism for the fans and speed-throttling (NOT speedstep, that came out later), it apparently works in both the bios and OS. Either way, it doesn't work in windows, and often does the opposite of what it should. Audio is a whole mess by itself. The win32 drivers cause the audio chipset to produe a 1:1 signal to noise ratio (an AM radio inside a power plant would sound better)
Switching to Linux has suprisingly helped. Even without installing the i8k packages (which aren't even compatible to my knowledge), thermal performance is much better, the fans work when the should, the keys still require a massive amount of force to work (but that's a hardware problem), and best of all, sound works properly. Finally, a computer (a laptop at that!) with better hardware support under linux than in windows. Unfortunately, the c-docks still have the same issues.
Re:Somewhat OT...but... (Score:2)
We had a service agreement, so they were replaced, but only AFTER they each burnt up. It's damn good they were in open spaces, and not under a shelf or on a computer desk with over-head compartments (like other monitors in other offices are).
You can't imagine the number of "Dude, you're getting a flame-thrower" jokes I've heard because of it.
What a warranty! (Score:4, Interesting)
My guess is that most of the people that use these are business customers (ie. used as cash register displays or something like that) and they don't want to lose any repeat business.
Re:What a warranty! (Score:4, Interesting)
My experience with IBM has always been great. Twice they have replaced minor parts OUT OF WARRANTY with just a call, free. And this was just on consumer grade products. One reason I half a dozen IBM servers now. (ppro 2 dual's, never a down day in over 4 years, even the used one i bought off ebay).
I am betting most (not all, but most) people that talk trash about IBM have never been IBM customers. As always, you mileage will vary, but they have always treated me, a very tiny customer, like gold.
Re:What a warranty! (Score:2)
Maybe a flamebait....but (Score:3, Insightful)
I know their stance for linux has improved, but still seems somewhat wisshy washy at times....IBM IMO is a really strong business, but they seem to be half-assing a lot lately
No your MONITOR is flambait. (Score:3, Insightful)
Sorry I could not help myself.
It isn't just IBM the whole industry is starting to put out crap. Everyone wants cheap PCs and you take a hit on the quality when you go for that.
Re:Maybe a flamebait....but (Score:2)
Quite old (Score:4, Informative)
And only 5 reported failures? In almost 6 years? That doesn't sound too bad to me...
Chris
Not so old... (Score:2)
It's been in operation almost every day of those 12 years. It starts right away, syncs to different VGA/SVGA resolutions without fail, has its colors intact, the whole thing - functions like new.
The fact that anyone considers a monitor from '97 to be ancient, useless and presumed dead really indicates that they really don't build 'em like they used to.
Re:Quite old (Score:2)
I just lost my 19", but that was after 7 years. I have a 14" that is 10 years old.
Re:Quite old (Score:2)
Re:Quite old (Score:2)
I've got numerous CD-Rs, DVD-ROMS, Monitors, etc., that crap out (on average) just a year or so after I buy it. I wouldn't take Acer products if they were giving them away for fear that they would damage the components they connect to.
The problem, as I see it, is that there are no brand names that strive for quality. Every brand, even if they make decent equipment, has a line of crappy products. You can no longer just purchase everything from DEC and know it'll last for years without fault... You just about have to do an extensive test of every product by every manufacturer to know what has been built well.
Not long ago you could tell the quality of a product by the length of the warranty, but now everyone has standardized their warranties based on their competitors, so it's now useless.
Saved! (Score:2)
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just replace them? (Score:3, Insightful)
Perhaps IBM is banking on the fact that most of these dinosaurs are sitting on a shelf somewhere because their tubes blew out long ago. I know I wouldn't bother getting a 6-year-old 15" monitor fixed, even if it was for free.
Up in smoke (Score:2)
IBM To Repair Smoking Monitors (Score:2, Funny)
In that case, hey, let the monitor smoke, you may notice improvements when playing games.
smoke test... (Score:2, Insightful)
we rolled the windows down alot....
More than 56,000 (Score:5, Informative)
They are withdrawing all the 117,000:
[rant] ;-)[/rant]
It's only the US-centric slashdot, who want us Europeans to burn...
Re:More than 56,000 (Score:2)
Strange how they list what looks like an international freephone number for Turkey. Unless Turkey, like North America, has a non standard numbering plan.
Fiery IBM monitors are nothing new (Score:5, Funny)
The IBM monitors that shipped with IBM PS/2 computers in the late 1980's were notorious for bursting into flame. Flames would shoot out of the monitor's vents at the top of the case. One morning I found one had charred the top of its case overnight. Luckily it burned itself out without tripping the office sprinklers. THAT would have been more exciting.
Which reminds me of the sick joke I dreamed up for our IT boss at that job. We were thinking of calling him up on his honeymoon vacation, and saying, "Don't worry about the fire in the data center. The sprinklers put it out!"
Around that time I was interviewing at a 100% "True Blue" IBM shop. I mentioned that the new IBM monitors are known to burst into flame. The response was, "Oh yes, the monitors do often catch on fire. But then IBM replaces them for free under warranty!"
IBM's immediate response was to send adhesive labels for the monitors that advised powering them off when not in use. New monitors came with the sticker pre-applied at the factory.
I saw a buggy program toast one of these... (Score:3, Interesting)
When I was in college, we had a couple of labs full of PS/2 Model 50s (286-based). One night, a friend of mine was testing calling assemply language routines from Turbo Pascal. She must have gotten some parameter passing or something very wrong, because as soon as she ran the app, it crashed and smoke started pouring out of the top of the monitor. At the time, we all thought that was the most impressive damn thng we had ever seen - a program that crashes so badly that it kills the machine. That takes more than a 3-finger salute to fix. Today, I'm a little more doubtful of the exact cause. It could have been a flaky monitor, but it would be a BIG coincidence for it to have had nothing to do with the program. (I wanted to try running the program again on a different machine and see if it happened again, but that seemed like a bad idea.)
On the subject of crappy IBM hardware, the PS/2s were far way from five 9s. I wasn't impressed by their service, either. Out of 35 or so systems, there were always about 3 or 4 dead ones. The service rep would come by about once a week, open them up and fiddle around inside, and then leave with at least one still dead. Admittedly, they were in regular use by student goons, but these were supposed to be high-end professonal quality tools. We had less trouble with the Leading Edge 8086es in our old lab.
Oh, and don't even get me started on the Microchannel architecture and the proprietary IBM configuration floppy you had to use to add new hardware and tweak the BIOS. Feh.
Re:I saw a buggy program toast one of these... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Coincidence can be scary... (Score:4, Funny)
One of the project managers was testing the calculator and did something to get an overflow error. At that moment, the Whittier quake happened. The PM filed a bug report: "Arithmetic overflow in calculator causes earthquake." The bug stayed open until just before shipping, when it was closed as "Cannot reproduce."
Re:I saw a buggy program toast one of these... (Score:2)
The hardware *was* pretty much bulletproof, especially the keyboards (I spilled half a beer into one one night, when the machine was running, and just took it outside and drained and rinsed it. It was good as new in the morning.) and cases. I think we mainly had bad motherboard chips or flaky RAM. It was hard to tell because all you ever got for diagnostics was a set of beeps and a 4-digit number at POST if something failed.
Other than that, my only complaint was how hard it was to configure the BIOS and add new hardware without the magic disk. That and the fact the you had to plug the mouse in *before* powering on the machine or it wouldn't recognize it. And if the mouse ever came loose, you had to reboot.
Best damn keyboard I ever used, though. Even better than my Northgate Omnikey.
Re:Fiery IBM monitors are nothing new (Score:2, Informative)
This particular (small) data center had a Halon system. It also still had sprinkler heads.
Sprinklers can be required because the building owners or city code will not allow them to removed. If the rules or building code say "All rooms on all floors must be equipped with a sprinkler system" it will be interpreted to mean exactly that, no substitutes allowed.
BTW, electrical conduits MUST be metal, we don't get to use the plastic sheathed stuff like the rest of world. Ditto for plumbing pipes, although PVC plastic waste pipes are legal in the city now, after 40 years of being banned. The unions/building departments (often headed by the same person) claim that the plastic would contribute toxic fumes in the event of a fire.
BTW II, Halon is effectively banned now, too. Because the EPA banned freon because of risk to the ozone layer, the gas is not made and thus is so expensive that a installing Halon or replacing it after a discharge would cost $100,000.
smoking monitors (Score:2, Funny)
nosmoke.exe.... (Score:5, Funny)
An old but good story...
Re:nosmoke.exe.... (Score:2)
Magic Smoke (Score:4, Funny)
It looks like IBM has a Magic Smoke (TM) leak in their monitors.
Rule #1 (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Rule #1 (Score:2)
The burning question (Score:2)
Q: Do you smoke after Unreal Torunament?
A: Gosh, I've never looked.
<rimshot>
I'll be here all week, folks. Try the veal!
then you apply the equation... (Score:2, Funny)
It's a story problem.
If a new monitor leaves Chicage, is delivered to a home and the rear circuit board starts smoking, and the monitor crashes and burns with everyone trapped in the house, does IBM initiate a recall?
You take the population of monitors in the field (A) and multiply it by the probable rate of failure (B), then multiply the result by the average cost of an out-of-court settlement (C).
A times B times C equals X. This is what it will cost if we don't initiate a recall.
If X is greater then the cost of a recall, we recall the monitors and no one gets hurt.
If X is less then the cost of a recall, then we don't recall.
-chuck palahniuk
Best way to fix this (Score:3, Funny)
This is old news to me (Score:2)
blue smoke (Score:2, Funny)
Full CPSC news release (Score:2)
March 4, 2003 CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
Release # 03-088 CPSC Media Contact: Scott Wolfson (301) 504-7051
CPSC, IBM Announce Recall to Repair Computer Monitors
WASHINGTON, D.C. - In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), IBM, of Armonk, N.Y., is voluntarily recalling to repair 56,000 computer monitors. The monitor's circuit board can overheat and smoke, posing a fire hazard to consumers.
IBM has received five reports of monitors overheating and smoking, including one report of minor property damage. No injuries have been reported.
The recalled IBM monitors include the G51 CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) and G51t Touch Screen CRT models. The G51 and G51t monitors have the following model numbers on a label on the back of the unit: 6541-02N, 6541-02E, 6541-02S, 6541-Q0N, 6541-Q0E, and 6541-Q0S. The label on the back of the recalled G51 models also has a date of manufacture between June 1997 and September 1997. The "IBM" logo can be found on the front of the units, which were manufactured in China and Malaysia.
IBM, MicroTouch Systems, and major retail stores nationwide, including Best Buy, CompUSA, Office Max, and Radio Shack, sold the monitors from June 1997 through December 1998 for about $370.
Consumers should stop using these monitors immediately and contact the IBM Repair Center at (866) 644-3155 between 9 a.m. and 7 p.m. ET Monday through Friday for a free inspection and repair or replacement. For more information, consumer can log on the company's website at www.ibm.com/pc/g51recall [ibm.com].
To see a picture of the recalled product(s) and/or to establish a link from your web site to this press release on CPSC's web site, link to the following address: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml03/03088
Manufactured by Lite-on? (Score:2)
No wonder Liteon sells CDRW drives now...
You let your motherboard overheat till it smokes? (Score:3, Funny)
Well that makes you look pretty stupid, doesn't it?
They can't have mine (Score:3, Funny)
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise... (Score:2)
Re:Will IBM refund my life ? (Score:2, Funny)