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Why Nerds Are Unpopular 1535

AccordionGuy writes "Paul Graham, who's known for his writings on Lisp and other Lisp-like languages as well as his essays on combatting spam has taken a bit of a detour from his usual topics. His latest essay is one that's a little more personal and that we can all relate to: Why Nerds Are Unpopular . It's a lengthy but engaging writeup of that chamber of horrors we call high school and why being smarter than the average bear is more of a liability than an asset during that stage in life. It's food for thought for those of us who've already been there, done that and been stuffed into lockers by the football team and it should give some hope to those who are going through it right now."
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Why Nerds Are Unpopular

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  • by LJPeixoto ( 130298 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:12PM (#5328794) Homepage
    What ??? Impopular, me ???? No way.... thats totally impossible cause I Use Linux (TM) and Linux rocks !!!!
  • Lisa Simpson found that it was a pheromone that caused people to beat up nerds! (This effect, of course, could easily be neutralized by spraying said bully with vinegar).
  • Jealousy (Score:2, Funny)

    by govtcheez ( 524087 ) <govtcheez03@hotmail.com> on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:13PM (#5328803) Homepage
    People are just jealous of the way we're portrayed in movies [slashdot.org]
  • by DChristensen ( 98850 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:13PM (#5328811) Homepage
    It sucks still being stuffed in the lockers byt the football team, particularly because I'm the principal of the high school.
  • True dat. (Score:5, Funny)

    by yuckf00 ( 644870 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:16PM (#5328845)
    I'm writing this post from a locker now.
  • by iomud ( 241310 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:16PM (#5328849) Homepage Journal
    It's because of his lisp.
  • Plenty cool (Score:3, Funny)

    by KingBuggo ( 590186 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:17PM (#5328864)
    You are plenty cool when they realize you are smart enough to run a methlab.
  • Comedian Paul Rodriguez:

    You remember those kids in school who you called Nerds?
    You know what you call 'em now?

    BOSS!
  • by Fulcrum of Evil ( 560260 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:23PM (#5328928)

    Het, when I get out of college, odds are there will be jobs of 50k and up just waiting for me

    Looks like you'll be doing Graduate level work at Hard Knocks U.

  • Popular? (Score:3, Funny)

    by sulli ( 195030 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:30PM (#5329009) Journal
    Sure I'm popular - I have tons of Fans! Does that mean I'm not a Nerd?
  • by airrage ( 514164 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @05:34PM (#5329066) Homepage Journal
    Right on the money. I'm sorry, but if you don't shower and wear Pokemon t-shirts, you are going to be intimate with the inner workings of public toiletry.

    To all you high-schoolers reading this: use basic grooming standards! (do not use your friends as a standard).
  • by Casca ( 4032 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:05PM (#5329415) Journal
    Sounds to me like somebody can't code...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:08PM (#5329453)
    I find that singing the Minty Mints song under my breath helps my brain go into neutral, and everything turns out alright.
  • Re:Helpful? (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:13PM (#5329514)
    Lucky me, being at the same time a genius, top model, and star athlete I naturally never had any problems.

    Posted anonymously so you won't mod me down in the future for being beautiful.

  • Nerd Types (Score:2, Funny)

    by Almace ( 216500 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:16PM (#5329562)
    Stolen from the <A Href="http://maddox.xmission.com/anime_nerd.html"> Greatest Website</A> in the universe
    <br>
    1. The "I wish I was Japanese" anime nerd:
    Everyone knows someone like this. They refer to themselves as "otaku" and they embrace everything Japanese, not necessarily because it's something unique or interesting, but because it's Japanese. They wear clothing with Japanese or Chinese characters on it that translate to English phrases like "good will" or "long life." They wouldn't be able to get away with wearing a shirt that said "long life" in English because it would just look stupid, but as soon as it's translated into kanji it suddenly becomes cool and mysterious? Please. Since they'll sooner die than admit that their fascination with everything Japanese is a sham, you'll occasionally sense how uneasy they become when confronted with something Japanese that's so lame and obviously for little girls that they almost start to back off from the mountain of stupid they've climbed up on. Almost.
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    2. The balding gothic loser with an ugly girlfriend nerd:
    This is a goth who's so much of a loser that he's even shunned by other goth losers. A telltale characteristic of this nerd is his inability to stop deep throating his ugly girlfriend in public. They not only kiss, but they kiss in the most vulgar way possible (full on tongue and groping). As if it wasn't bad enough that they're both kicking the funk, they usually sport massive pizza-face crater acne. Barf!
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    3. The big-titted lardass nerd:
    If this type of nerd was a soup, he would be Campbell's: Thick and Chunky. Girls usually refer to this nerd as "a nice guy," and despite every girl's wish for a nice guy, they'd sooner be shot than date, let alone bang a guy like this. This type of nerd is usually very sensitive and introverted. You can get away with punching this nerd in the face because he's too much of a pussy to do anything about it. However, you can expect to find an entry about what an asshole you are in his blog several days later. And don't expect to be invited to any Magic: The Gathering parties he hosts any time soon.
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    4. The nerd leader:
    This is the "cool" nerd of the group. The nerd all other nerds aspire to be. You can tell which one is the nerd leader by watching his posse swarm around his every move. No lesser nerd dares speak against the nerd leader's opinion on cartoons, sci-fi movies or debates about which Star Wars characters are able to defeat jedis "if only they learned to use the force." The nerd leader revels in being able to boss around all the other nerds and does so as often as he can to make up for his utter inability to boss anyone else around in his life. This nerd is usually tough shit until you point out the fact that he's 36 and still lives at home.
    <br>
    5. The "Silent Bob" trench coat mullet nerd:
    Tries to look intimidating but ends up just looking stupid as he clumsily trips over his trench coat. Usually has shaving scars and a patchy, random-ass beard because he can't grow facial hair. Thinks he's the character "Silent Bob" from the movie Clerks. Pretends to be above it when other nerds laugh at nerd jokes, secretly goes home and cries himself to sleep.
  • by mrjive ( 169376 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:19PM (#5329604) Homepage Journal
    Marge, try to understand. There are two kinds of college students: jocks and nerds. As a jock, it is my duty to give nerds a hard time.
  • Re:Jealousy (Score:2, Funny)

    by JivanMukti ( 589480 ) <c.knoxNO@SPAMcomcast.net> on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:19PM (#5329611)
    Some years ago I read about one man's revenge. It was about 10-15 years after high school and he was a successful business man. He invited his high school tormenters for a free day at his health club; just to show there were "no hard feelings".

    After enjoying racketball, working out, etc., he showed them the sauna, and said he had some business to take care of first. Then he'd be back in an hour. When they were in the sauna he took all their clothes and left for the day! They got out and had to call their wives to come with clothes.
  • Re:Bullying (Score:4, Funny)

    by AndroidCat ( 229562 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:31PM (#5329758) Homepage
    "That which does not kill us makes us stronger" I always wished Nietzsche was alive today so that I could break his legs and see how much stronger that made him.
  • Re:Pfft (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonvmous Coward ( 589068 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:32PM (#5329775)
    "I knew a guy in high school that was well known for liking Star Wars a little too much....We found out that day that he was a really talented artist."

    Ah yes, the Star Wars nerd heh. I'm impressed he could make a 'figurine' sized scuplture of anybody with kneadable eraser. It's very hard to scuplt with that stuff, it's not like clay.

    My class had the little brother nerd. When I was a senior, one of my classmates had a little brother that was a freshmen. He was this wirey little guy with glasses. We rode the same bus to school. I remember that because one day he pissed off somebody on the bus. I didn't catch what happend, other than they cornered him after getting to school.

    I should probably explain here that I went to a college-prep magnet school. It was invite only. Fighting was instant expulsion, and you were sent to a public school. Nobody wanted any part of that. That probably saved him from getting beaten.

    I was a friend of this little dude's sister, so I followed the group to make sure he was okay. I knew they weren't going to thump him, but I wanted to make sure nothing real serious happened. Unfortunately, this kid wasn't very bright. Whatever it was they were mad about, he was stupid enough to argue with them about it instead of just apologizing and moving on. (he wasn't protesting his innocence, just his right to do whatever he did or some bs) He actually got them riled up enough that the leader yanked his glasses right off his face and started to twist them. The expression on that guy's face after he bent the glasses was priceless.

    It wasn't long before this incident that Lens Crafters was running a special on a type of glasses made from 'memory metal' that would spring back into place after being bent. Heh this kid was one of the first to have that! So when they twisted his glasses they sprang right back into shape! Oh man, that was so funny to watch, the look on this guy's face when the glasses just sprung right back. There were people in the group, mad at him, that found that funny. (Most of them wore glasses..) I believe that actually defused the situation. A conversation was sparked about what kind of glasses those were, and the group dispersed.

    Damn that kid was lucky.

  • by varith ( 530137 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:42PM (#5329876)
    I was a member of the other group mentioned in the article- a stoner. So I don't really remember many of the conversation I had. Just that they were hilarious. Actually, everything got hilarious.
  • by RatBastard ( 949 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @06:59PM (#5330104) Homepage
    Jebus!
  • by prockcore ( 543967 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @07:05PM (#5330167)
    It's not the 18 INT that gets you stuffed into a locker, it's the 9 Charisma.
  • by NineNine ( 235196 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @07:51PM (#5330628)
    You were in a shop class, and all you did was hit him with your fists? Wow... proof positive that not all nerds are smart. Hammers, screwdrivers, griners, jigsaws, pliers, jesus *anything* in shop class is more effective than a girl's fists.
  • Re:Helpful? (Score:2, Funny)

    by Frequanaut ( 135988 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @07:59PM (#5330689)
    I wish I had some mod points.

    I'd mod you +1 a very nice person.

    I'm going to go abuse myself for being such a complete bastard now.

  • by tapin ( 157076 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @08:06PM (#5330747)
    Blockquoth the parent:
    (I never knew an unpopular football player)
    Our school had one.

    On second thought, he was a kicker.

  • by Bishop ( 4500 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @09:08PM (#5331168)
    unconscious after 8

    8 pints or 8 girls?

    Hats off to you if it is the latter! :-)
  • by FireBreathingDog ( 559649 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @09:24PM (#5331272)
    Nerds are unpopular because they spend too much time thinking about why nerds are unpopular.
  • by mikedaisey ( 413058 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @10:18PM (#5331654) Homepage
    "Allow me to take this opportunity to state that the whole nerd mythology is a load of crap."

    That's nice...maybe we'd be more interested in your fascinating observations if you had read the fucking article.
  • by pi_rules ( 123171 ) on Tuesday February 18, 2003 @10:51PM (#5331866)
    I'm good looking enough to approach women with confidence, but after about 5 mintues of talking, the women realize I'm a geek and leave...that, and I have no game.

    It's a really bad idea to open with the line, "Baby... I want to indent your code all night long." Sure, it -sounds- sexy to us; but chicks just don't get it.

  • by pherthyl ( 445706 ) on Wednesday February 19, 2003 @12:30AM (#5332439)
    and if you find a girl that thinks its just as sexy. dont give that shit up you lucky bastard

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