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USB Key-Sized MP3 Player With LCD Display 399

nhahmada writes "The Muvo MP3 player/storage device from Creative has been out for awhile, but some have complained of its lack of a display or equalizer. Well, now Innogear has released the 128MB Duex mp302 with a backlit LCD supporting ID3 tags, a "multi-category" equalizer and a timer (Why?). The mp302 also has the ability to record/playback voice via its built-in microphone. It can be used for storing any type of file and plays MP3/WMA/WAV. Both the Muvo and mp302 run on one AAA, giving 12 hours of continuous playback. Running at $179, it's a little more expensive than the $169.99 128MB Muvo, but I am willing to shell out ten bucks for an LCD. Go here for a better look at the display."
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USB Key-Sized MP3 Player With LCD Display

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  • Creative Zen (Score:3, Interesting)

    by batboy78 ( 255178 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:14PM (#4610841) Homepage
    I still think I'm going to hold out for the Creative Nomad Zen. A little more expensive. Lets see 20GB.... 128MB. Hmmmmmmmm.
  • What I want (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:15PM (#4610850)
    What I want is an FM radio with MP3 recorder and programmable recording.

    So I can record, say, Talk of the Nation on NPR in the morning and listen to it in the afternoon.

    Why doesn't anybody make this yet???

    Tivo for NPR. It would be great for saving stuff to listen to while driving, for those times when I want to actually use the time to learn something.

  • Abuse (Score:4, Interesting)

    by edwilli ( 197728 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:15PM (#4610852) Homepage
    I wonder how much damage that LCD can take before it's trashed. Something that small would go everywhere with me. Anyone have any experence with anything like that?
  • hopefully.. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by demonbug ( 309515 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:16PM (#4610857) Journal
    this will push down the price of the Muvo. Sorrry, but it only holds 128MB. I think I can pretty well remember what MP3's I put on a 128MB player, so the LCD is pretty pointless (and probably actually shortens battery life). The equalizer might be nice, though.
  • by __aaahtg7394 ( 307602 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:18PM (#4610877)
    a timer (Why?).

    Because when you're working out, you often want to know how long you've been going. "OK, good, i did my 5 minutes of hard running, time for a smoke!", etc. Joggers, treadmill junkies, and other people-who-move are a target audience for these things (remember anti-skip CD players? "Perfect for Runners!")

    It'd surprise me if this didn't come with an armband of some sort, either out of the box or as an option.
  • by batboy78 ( 255178 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:18PM (#4610884) Homepage
    yeesus, is it that hard to decode ogg files

    Doesn't the OGG codec require a lot more processor power to decode?

  • Re:What I want (Score:3, Interesting)

    by dildatron ( 611498 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:19PM (#4610889)
    and could you add AM reception, too? This is also what I want. I want to record some talk shows I like that I can't hear while I am working because of too much RF interference. I would be happy to record it (where i can get good recpetion) then listen to it the next day.
  • Better software (Score:3, Interesting)

    by addaon ( 41825 ) <(addaon+slashdot) (at) (gmail.com)> on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:27PM (#4610975)
    This could be a great device with some clever client-side software. I'm assuming that it currently appears to the host computer as a standard usb mass storage device... Great device, as an mp3 player. But imagine how much flexibility you would get if it appeared to the host as a usb hub, to which is connected a usb mass storage device, a usb audio input device (standard microphone driver), and a usb->serial port bridge to which a standard serial lcd is connected. All the hardware is there, it's just a matter of appearances... with these features, it would be just as great (indeed, identical) as an mp3 player, but you could also use it as a portable microphone (the microphones on both my ibook and picturebook suck), and you could use it as an additional display device when plugged in. I just can't see any downside (besides development time) to allowing this.

  • by static_noise ( 623544 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:29PM (#4610992)
    Most of these devices do not use a processor for decoding but a dedicated hardware MP3 decoder. If there was an Ogg MP3 decoder at the same price it would probably be used.
  • Headphones (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Puk ( 80503 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:45PM (#4611148)
    My problem is having too much stuff to carry. I'm not a fan of having 4 things in my pockets and 4 more strapped to my belt, so I don't do it. This product is great, because it's small (I recently replaced my phone with a Treo, since I had stopped carrying my beloved Visor due to space constraints).

    My problem is headphones. Even earbuds are fairly large, and easily broken in your pocket. Carrying my music with me everywhere is of no use if I can't listen to it. Are there any good solutions for carrying around headphones in a safe but non-huge way?

    Similarly, there needs to be a stereo hands-free kit for my phone (I much prefer hands free) with a 1/8 jack which doubles as headphones for this thing (yes, stereo is useless for the cell). Does such a thing exist?

    I guess the truth is I'm just another person waiting for convergence, when I can have my phone, mp3/ogg player, networked PDA, digital wallet, etc. all embedded in one false tooth and hooked wirelessly to the other relevant parts of my head. I guess the problems there start happening when people see me talking to myself in the street, or I accidentally answer the phone by piping Eminem into it at high volume.

    Thus endeth the rambling.

    -Puk
  • by corren ( 559473 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:49PM (#4611177)
    The MPIO-DMK is a better alternative for people wanting someone small and durable. While I agree having the built in USB port is nice, it also means that you have a removeable piece: the cover. And I guarantee over time and use, you're going to lose, break, bend, or damage the cover to the point of worthlessness, and once you don't have a cover, your USB port is going to get trashed.

    Check out the MPIO-DMK [zdnet.com]
  • Re:What I want (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Sc00ter ( 99550 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @04:49PM (#4611183) Homepage
    Tuner cards -NEVER- have AM. Way to much interference from the stuff inside the computer. You're better off getting a normal radio and plugging it into the line in of your audio card (that's what I do for AM stuff)

  • Mp3 for exercising. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by phorm ( 591458 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @05:00PM (#4611301) Journal
    remember anti-skip CD players? "Perfect for Runners!")
    The newer ones with longer antiskip anyhow. My older player has Anti-Skip, it still chirps and clips when I'm blading.

    Memory-based players are nice because they don't skip and also have no (powered) moving parts to break or drain battery.

    The timer is also useful for track-times, to see if you can get around a little faster next time (i.e. if your fitness is "improving"). I prefer to set my pace to a particular song though, fast upbeat music for harder work, and shorter songs for trying to make a sprint
  • Re:Recharge? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by photon317 ( 208409 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @05:30PM (#4611601)

    I think you have volts and amps backwards there. All USB ports supply +5V, the only that changes from port to port depending on the controller/hub/etc is the available amperage. Considering that it's a AAA battery we're talking about charging, I'm sure even the lowliest USB amperage would be sufficient. Right now I have my Motorola i1000plus (Nextel walkie-talkie cellphone) charging from a ubs hub port, using a custom cable I spliced up that puts the USB's +5V signal into the bottom of the phone, it powers and charges my battery just fine. [BTW if you like that idea and don't want to make one yourself, they sell something similar on ThinkGeek]
  • by AyeRoxor! ( 471669 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @06:02PM (#4611941) Journal
    "Both the Muvo and mp302 run on one AAA, giving 12 hours of continuous playback."

    "Innogear has released the 128MB Duex mp302"

    I don't get it. Sure you get 12 hours of playback, but even at the mediocre MP3 quality of 128kbps, audio is a megabyte a minute. So at 128MB, you just get to hear the same 2 albums over and over again for 12 hours, and if you want to listen to other albums, you have to upload them. The price for these memory units/sticks/cards/whatever-a particular-device-uses is just inexorably stupid to settle for as a consumer. I couldn't be happier with my $119.00 CD-Based MP3 Player [tdk.com]. It has never skipped on me (it loads 8 minutes of track [longer than 99% of tracks] straight to memory, then the disc stops spinning.) and with it , I get over ten hours of 128kbps music per disc and carry as many discs as I want, and because the disc only spins to read, I get 10-12 hours of listening time per battery set, and the unit I have has a built-in recharger.

    Until these trinkets come with 512MB of memory, there's no way they can compete with my 25 cent 700MB storage units for the same quality experience. Sure, if you dont want to stick a CD-player in your pocket to jog (which I do with no problems), then the little guys are fine. But if you're just gonna use it to jog, get an earbud radio for $25 bucks.

    The only people who buy these trinket MP3 players seem to me to be the people who get them as some sort of status symbol. I can really see no other good popular reasons.
  • And some more... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Wookie Athos ( 75570 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2002 @06:46PM (#4612360)
    Not just "does it appear as a USB Mass Storage device with a convenient filesystem format", but also:

    Is the recorded audio (e.g. voice recordings) in a format easily accessible using Open Source tools?

    If the answer to both of those was yes then I'd probably buy one without hestitation. Does anyone have one they're willing to post a review of?

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