The Internet Society Will Manage .org 137
ahpeterson writes "The ICANN board just decided to hand control of the .org domain over to the Internet Society. You can read more about their bid here. Whee, no more VeriSign in .org!"
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My .org (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:My .org (Score:5, Informative)
" While the domain will be marketed to nonprofits, others will not be prohibited from registering
HTH
Re:My .org (Score:3, Interesting)
I think they should have to give up 100% control of everything involved in the
Re:My .org (Score:4, Informative)
As you currently own the domains, you shouldn't have to worry about any changes in the domaim management system. My guess is that you would be grandfathered in. If for some reason you let your registration lapse, or if you decided that you wanted NEW
Re:My .org (Score:2, Informative)
if you read the second paragraph in the article and follow the first link Section 5 [isoc.org] then you may find more answers.
I think parts of the site may be suffering mildly from the
Re:My .org (Score:5, Informative)
Re:My .org (Score:1)
Newfie: Would you sleep with me for $10,000?
Girl: Yes.
Newfie: Would you sleep with me for $10?
Girl: Certainly not. What kind of girl do you think I am?
Newfie: We've already established that, now we're just hagglin' over the price.
All domains used to be free. (Score:1)
Re:My .org (Score:2)
Traditionally the
Re:My .org (Score:1, Redundant)
" While the domain will be marketed to nonprofits, others will not be prohibited from registering
Re:My .org (Score:3, Interesting)
A question I have - in the same vien as yours - is what will happen to the URL you use to get here -
Should be interesting to see what transpires.
Soko
Re:My .org (Score:4, Funny)
I guess the real question would be what is the definition of non-profit:
Those that are committed to strictly working at cost
Or, those that can only make enough to break even depsite how often they run banners for Visual Studio.
Re:My .org (Score:4, Interesting)
slashdot has slashdot.com, slashdot.org, and slashdot.de, and slashdot.jp (in japanese!)
slashdot.net [slashdot.net] is being squatted by the norwegians
slashdot.info [slashdot.info] is owned by ZDNet which is offering tech news, arguably profiting off of slashdot's good name.
Travis
Re:My .org (Score:1)
Re:slashdot.info (Score:1, Funny)
Re:slashdot.info (Score:2)
Cool idea, someone set up slashdot.info as a rotating DNS page
Travis
slashdot.info (Score:5, Informative)
Re:slashdot.info (Score:2)
While yer dumpster-diving, Steve Jankly of 'go daddy software' has slashdot.us, Rory Toma of 'Colin Burns Games' has has slashdot.cc, and if you want something out of the real ghetto of the DNS, slashdot.tv and slashdot.bz are still available.
Better call out the lawyers!
--
Benjamin Coates
Re:slashdot.info (Score:1)
Re:My .org (Score:1, Offtopic)
yes, it seems to have the same articles as
slashdot, but fresher articles and no repeated
front page "stories" as news.
Does anyone else . . . (Score:1)
.orgs (Score:1)
no more reminders? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:no more reminders? (Score:1)
Re:no more reminders? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:no more reminders? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:no more reminders? (Score:2)
Re:no more reminders? (Score:1)
Re:no more reminders? (Score:1)
Verisign still in it (Score:5, Interesting)
Do you think Verisign is really out of it? I doubt it if they have a financial stake in the Internet Society's future decisions. I'll be curious how Verisign tries to slowly gain more and more authority in the background.
Re:Verisign still in it (Score:2, Interesting)
Oops, my sarcasm is dripping again.
HOORAY!!! WHOOPEE!!! (Score:1, Offtopic)
-jasons
This can be good and bad (Score:4, Insightful)
However this also poses a domain squatting and slanderous sites to be able to have domains like microsoft.org for instance(i of course like microsoft as little as the next guy) but if someone owns the site a mistyped url could hurt smaller businesses, and geniune orginzations who should have the
Re:This can be good and bad (Score:1)
Re:This can be good and bad (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:This can be good and bad (Score:4, Informative)
umm (Score:1, Redundant)
Shouldn't slashdot be a little nicer to them then killing their server?
Yay, the evil spreads! (Score:5, Funny)
I love America...
Re:Yay, the evil spreads! (Score:2)
ICANN is pretty much devolved from a branch of the US government, but this isn't surprising. However, I suspect that if you look closely, this is a characteristic of buerocracy around the world throughout history. Certain as death and taxes.
This could be a BAD thing.... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:This could be a BAD thing.... (Score:1)
Re:This could be a BAD thing.... (Score:1)
Great... (Score:4, Funny)
Now how long before we can get them out of
why the exclamation mark? (Score:5, Funny)
Slashdot, I never would have expected doublespeak from you! *sniff* I trusted you.
Re:why the exclamation mark? (Score:1)
Before you let the party begin (Score:5, Insightful)
No more Verisign is something that many will be very, very happy about, but any "big" change in "the way things are done" often hurts before it gets better.
Let's hope that the transition is as painless as possible.
Negotiable Affection for Karma (Score:4, Informative)
Nintendo Trouble (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Nintendo Trouble (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Nintendo Trouble (Score:1)
Re:Nintendo Trouble (Score:1, Insightful)
Hopefully your sister is aware of the difference between copyright and trademarks, unlike you.
Re:Nintendo Trouble (Score:1)
go to the real site (Score:1)
so it's ISOC (Score:5, Insightful)
The ISOC proposal is a shameless money-grab. They are contracting out the actual work to
This is the very same ISOC that got its bid approved by an evaluation comitee which judged principial Bind developer and internet pioneer Paul Vixie and his coworkers to be technically incompetent to run a registry - ISOC should be ashamed (and refuse) to accept that approval at all !
The whole thing is a farce....
Re:so it's ISOC (Score:2)
I'm sure that anyone who could figure out BIND 4.x code could figure out how to do that, but someone may be judging their ability to run an organization, not write software.
Re:so it's ISOC (Score:5, Interesting)
Thus addressing one of the principal problems that has been facing the IETF, the lack of funding for ISOC which amongst other things funds the indemnity insurance for the IESG and Working group chairs.
This is the very same ISOC that got its bid approved by an evaluation comitee which judged principial Bind developer and internet pioneer Paul Vixie and his coworkers to be technically incompetent to run a registry
Well there is no way I would trust Eric Allman to run something like hotmail and he wrote sendmail. The problem with Paul's bid was that he underestimated the difference between 99.9% reliable and 99.999% reliable.
The large registries don't use BIND and have not for many years. There is a major difference between running an enterprise scale DNS node and a registry, not least the behavior of the registrars.
Thing is that the average Internet user is willing to pay $6 per name to get ultra-high reliability DNS service. If the DNS goes down the Internet goes down. Paul's proposal to do the job for less just did not seem like much of a bargain.
Re:so it's ISOC (Score:1)
I bet a perl script could handle it.
DNS reliability needs (Score:3, Insightful)
The costs of dispute resolution are likely to be much higher than the costs of registry servers - the monthly cost of a couple of hosted machines is less than the cost of a couple hours of lawyer time.
Re:so it's ISOC (Score:1)
I take it DJB [cr.yp.to] was on the committee then :)
The problem with ICANN... (Score:5, Interesting)
This is already happening with ICANN. Remember the Karl Auerbach incident?
For all we know, this might just be a temporary measure, and that Verisign has already secured a deal which will go into effect in the future.
Just something to think about...
Re:The problem with ICANN... (Score:2)
Either that, or perhaps it was that there was no justification for their actions at all. One of those choices.
Re:The problem with ICANN... (Score:4, Interesting)
My own term as director will end on December 15 of this year - I have no sucessor.
As for ISOC/PIR - The actual awardee, PIR, didn't even exist as of a couple of weeks ago. In other words, ICANN awarded
I do not have faith in the organizational/business skills of PIR - although its board members have skills, I do not perceive that they have the kind of skills that will be needed to make sure that
One of ICANN's jobs is to create more competition in the domain name space. Afilias has already won a piece of the top-level-domain sweepstakes - it has
And lest we forget - this transfer of
Oh yeah, I voted against this. I liked the IMS proposal best. And I won't vote to give a TLD to anybody who already has one; nor would I vote for any entity in which ICANN directors or officers have a degree of control.
By-the-way, I'm a member of ISOC and have been since before it was formed.
Bad news (Score:1, Troll)
ISOC is largely made up of corporate interests, and will represent corporate interests, not the interests of the real internet community. You can expect corporations to be stealing domains from people alot easier now; AOL will easily be able to steal any domain name which someone paid for which contains "aol" in its name.
The problem with this decision is that it is completely illegitimate. Only 5 of the current ICANN members were elected; the rest were appointed by corporate interests. They have no legitimacy.
The only way ICANN can have legitimacy is if EVERY board member is elected by the internet community in a fair election. Until then, they're just a bunch of information-nazi's.
VeriSign gone! (Score:3, Interesting)
"Whee, no more VeriSign in
or maybe not...
"VeriSign will continue to profit from
Not that I'm a pessimist or anything...
Their site is down... (Score:1)
VeriSign is evil and onerous, but at least it (as well, as any other operating registrar) is up and running. Let's hope these guys get their act together...
Re:Their site is down... (Score:4, Informative)
Afilias? (Score:4, Interesting)
Afilias Limited, a global domain name registry services provider and current registry operator of the
Uhhh.. didn't Afilias has a boat load of problems when they launched
iwon.com ? (Score:3, Funny)
Obligatory Moronic Business Plan:
Anyone else? (Score:2, Funny)
ISOC proposed using PostgreSQL (Score:5, Informative)
So it seems that those of us who sell PostgreSQL to client will have an easy answer for whether or not it can scale.
talli
Re:ISOC proposed using PostgreSQL (Score:2, Informative)
Time to fix isoc.org then? (Score:4, Funny)
$ host -C isoc.org
isoc.org NS NS.ISI.EDU
www.isoc.org admin.www.isoc.org (2002062813 10800 3600 604800 86400)
*** isoc.org SOA record at NS.ISI.EDU is not authoritative
isoc.org has lame delegation to NS.ISI.EDU
!!! isoc.org SOA primary www.isoc.org is not advertised via NS
isoc.org NS INFO.isoc.org
www.isoc.org admin.www.isoc.org (2002062813 10800 3600 604800 86400)
isoc.org NS NS.UU.NET
isoc.org SOA record currently not present at NS.UU.NET
isoc.org has lame delegation to NS.UU.NET
Afilias will use PostgreSQL as their RDBMS engine (Score:4, Informative)
More Coverage of Decision (Score:2, Informative)
A company is an organization... (Score:2, Insightful)
Who the hell cares except a) the IRS and b) people who think profit is inherently evil and plan to shoot all profiteers.
Oh no! Billy's tree house club is mowing lawns and fixing bicycles! Call the UN!
Re:A company is an organization... (Score:1)
I just realized that A and B are the same people!
Update (Score:2)
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off topic? (Score:1, Insightful)
I you're one of the people who said they would leave the country if Bush won, then go away already and quit annoying the rest of us. I keep wondering why all those people are still here. Maybe it's not so bad eh?