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The Ultimate Universal Remote Control 277

TheMayor writes: "CNN.com has a story about how researchers at Maya Designs, Inc. and Carnegie-Mellon are trying to come up with a remote control that controls everything in your house. From the TV to the blender, these guys want to make an all-in-one piece to turn everything on and off. Now I wonder if I could remotely flush my toliet?"
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The Ultimate Universal Remote Control

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  • by Pig Hogger ( 10379 ) <pig.hogger@g[ ]l.com ['mai' in gap]> on Saturday August 31, 2002 @10:32PM (#4178959) Journal
    If you're having it built, have low-voltage relays installed throughout the house. The whole procedure is extremely well-documented in the "Time-Life Home Handyman" series of books, more precisely the "Advanced Wiring [allbookstores.com]" book.

    The idea is to have a 12 volts 2 coil latching-relay on each lighting circuit. Since they are latching relays (one coil to turn it on, and the other to turn it off), they can be controlled by as many momentary SPDT switches as needed; you can also have as many "master consoles" as you need which consist of two rotary dials, one to turn on and the other to turn off the light.

    Some relays even offer a low-voltage "indicator" line, so the master console can have pilot lights to indicate which lights are on.

    I am surprised that this system is not more widespread in fancy homes, as I remember going to a school more than 30 years ago that had it's lighting controlled by that system.

    What's neat about it is that the big expensive high-votage wire (which has to be installed by a qualified electrician) only goes from the breaker panel to the light fixtures, instead of snaking through the walls to the light switches (and don't get me stated on the 3 or 4 way switches!!!). As the control is done through low-voltage, light switches can be extremely small and unobtrusive.

    Of course, it goes without saying that interfacing those to a computer would be an outright breeze...

  • by cmeans ( 81143 ) <chris.a.meansNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday August 31, 2002 @11:40PM (#4179177) Journal
    There's already a variety of software for Palms that provide remote control capabilities.

    OmniRemote [pacificneotek.com] is the first one to come to mind, but it's not the only one out there...

  • by -tji ( 139690 ) on Saturday August 31, 2002 @11:57PM (#4179245) Journal
    Devices already exist to do this, without their kludgery of needing a laptop to actually do the IR transmission.

    The Philips Pronto [philips.com] is the most popular of the fully programmable universal remote. You can control thousands of devices with the Pronto, including X10 modules to control lamps, fans, and other appliances.

    It has a PC application to set set the GUI for controlling all the devices. It comes pre-programmed for many devices, and just about any other can be downloaded from various internet sites or manufacturers.

    The GUI to program it has a bit of a learning curve. If they wanted to make that process even easier, they could have saved a lot of effort by just making a better config GUI, rather than re-inventing the hardware.

    Another option, if you really want a PDA as your remote is the Nevo [remotecentral.com] software for the new iPaq, which includes a more powerful IR transmitter.
  • by higgins ( 100638 ) on Sunday September 01, 2002 @12:55AM (#4179408)
    Actually, the prototype client is Java. Runs fine on the Sharp Zaurus (and the widgets look nicer).

    Anyway, the important facet of the system is the XML specification [cmu.edu] and protocol [cmu.edu], which could be implemented on any platform. We'd love to do a cellphone...
  • by ConnectedTV ( 599588 ) on Sunday September 01, 2002 @01:11AM (#4179450) Homepage
    One handed operation is an extremely important feature for a universal remote control, which should be purposefully designed into the user interface from the day one.

    ConnectedTV [connected.tv] for the Palm is a universal remote control integrated with a personalized television guide, that's designed to be easily used with one hand.

    Like Mozilla and The Sims, it features "pie menus [piemenu.com]", which enable you to easily and reliably select several different functions from each button, without using (and losing) the stylus. Pie menus make ConnectedTV more powerful per square inch than physical remotes that only support one function per button.

    The buttons are big enough to easily select with your finger, and have useful functions in different directions. For example, stroking left or right scrolls to the previous or next page. You can stroke up on the name of a show to find out more about it, or stroke down to watch it, and ConnectedTV sends the numbers to change the channel, without you having to know or press any digits.

    "Touch Tuning" with ConnectedTV is like speed dialing for the remote control. It also functions as a hot list and spam filter, so you can easily mark and find your favorite shows, while hiding shows you don't like. It's much better than the slowly scrolling on-screen guide, because it doesn't block the tv screen, you can take it anywhere with up to two weeks of guide, and use it at your own pace.

    -info@Connected.TV [mailto]

  • by walt-sjc ( 145127 ) on Sunday September 01, 2002 @01:44AM (#4179524)
    Yes and no. There are multiple competeting "standards", but very few are actually open, or actually have broad industry support. Crap like X-10 is a dead end as it's extremely limited, prone to interfearence, unreliable, has no security, etc. Also, the "smart home" technology is NOT going to cost you "hundreds of thousands." If you DID end up with an obsolete system, you can replace it. All that X-10 crap comes out pretty quick.

    Lonworks on the other hand is VERY reliable, secure, OPEN, mature, works over many media such as RF, IR, twisted pair, power line, fiber, etc. Lonworks nodes are peers. Any node can control / communicate with any other node. Each node has a global unique ID much like an ethernet card's MAC address (except that it's longer.) The TYPES on control is virtually unlimited - it's not just "On, Off, Dim up and down." It's used in commercial and industrial environments as well as residential, so it's not going away anytime soon. Every house in Italy is being wired together with Lonworks.

    So it depends on what technology you go with. You can go with a dedicated residential nitch technology, or something more universal with massive industry support. THAT will define whether you have a white elephant that becomes obsolete in a couple years or not.

    I think you are overestimating the maintenance issues. Solid state electronics are quite reliable. Look at your clock radio. I've had the same one for 20 years or so. They just last forever. Node cost is something like $20, so it's similar. Your dishwasher, refrig, or furnace will probably die from a mechanical failure before electronic failure. A smart appliance could actually end up saving you money because it may be able to tell when a part is close to failure before it causes a domino type cascading failure in other parts. Not to mention that it can call your repair service for you when it DOES fail.

    Large companies can take advantage of cheaper power rates at different times of the day. With a smart meter and smart home, you will be able to do so as well. We wouldn't HAVE a power issue in california if we could manage even just half our electical usage. In a situation where you have variable rates depending on the current grid load / market, a smart home investment could pay for itself in just a few years.

    This is a technology I've been keeping an eye on for over 10 years. It's solid at this point.

  • by TokyoJimu ( 21045 ) on Sunday September 01, 2002 @02:04AM (#4179568) Homepage
    The original poster may have been joking, but leave it to the Japanese to come up with such a thing. Toto [toto.co.jp] makes many fancy toilets [toto.co.jp], some with remote control. But for the do-it-yourselfer, they make a retrofit remote control add-on [toto.co.jp].
  • Crestron panels (Score:3, Informative)

    by myov ( 177946 ) on Sunday September 01, 2002 @02:39AM (#4179644)
    Have they considered using Crestron [crestron.com] panels to control everything?
  • The philips pronto is an overpriced POS. A better deal is the Visor Basic with the OmniRemote module from Pacific Neotek [pacificneotek.com] (shameless plug for my friend's company) which will do all the same shit (including X10 control) for significantly less money, and if you get really froggy you could also use AvantGo to suck the TV listings into it, or play games on it, or whatever.

    The omniremote module also can optionally come with a blue LED for use as a flashlight. It's pretty damn cool stuff. I have one, and if my visor screen weren't cracked I'd use it nonstop.

  • Re:Toilet Remote (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 01, 2002 @01:22PM (#4180836)
    Remote toilets seats are popular in Japan. Here is a site to buy one in the U.S.(japanesse web site)

    http://www.bathpro.net/jasmin.htm

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