XP Service Pack Does the Impossible 633
Peyna writes "This article over at C|net discusses the upcoming Microsoft Windows XP service pack, which will contain the normal bug fixes, but more importantly, will make XP more modular, allowing you to override their default products. I assume this means Internet Explorer and possibly some other apps as well."
Still bloated (Score:5, Informative)
Modular my *ss - Lets talk about Mira :-) (Score:5, Informative)
As for it making Windows more modular - thats a load of crap. I love how the editors and the submitters around here intentionally embelish just so they can get more pageviews and comments. Oh well I guess they suceeded today...
Whats really going to rock in SP1 for XP is the new Mira technology stuff. If you dont know what that is - I suggest you cruise on over to http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/mira_preview
J
More info... (Score:2, Informative)
It mentions are which components are replaceable:
IE,
Outlook Express,
Messenger,
Windows Media Player
JVM.
There will be 4 configuration options: (from the article)"You can have the Microsoft option, the original machine configuration (i.e. what the OEM decided it would ship you, but this is going to be most obviously applicable to new machines shipped by OEMs post-SP1 release), a non-Microsoft option that allows you to substitute non-Microsoft middleware, and custom configuration."
And if you're using a warez copy of Win XP (Score:2, Informative)
what's the big deal? (Score:5, Informative)
I can already do that. Tweak UI does it. And as for file associations, who here thinks that if you accidentally start up windows media player even after this service pack, that it will still redo all your file associations without asking...
This is not a plea of guilt on Microsoft's part, hell this supports their case, they aren't removing anything, they are just hiding it (since of course, windows would stop functioning if you removed it)...
Re:Still bloated (Score:2, Informative)
Another note, one will not be able to use a version of XP with a stolen key to get the update, and since I refuse to pay for XP, I wouldn't be able to upgrade, so it's a moot point anyway. (Not sure how they'd know ALL the stolen/hacked keys, but I'm guessing they know of a few of the larger warez releases.)
Let's stop all the "now I can install XP" comments (Score:2, Informative)
"Another change seeks to curb about 90 percent of Windows XP piracy. Microsoft introduced Product Activation with the operating system, which uses a numeric key to lock the software to the hardware. But code stolen from a large Microsoft customer allowed rampant illegal Windows XP copying. People using Windows XP with the stolen key will not be able to apply the service pack or any future updates available from Microsoft's Web site."
This means that the CD you have in your cube with XP written on it with a Sharpie will not take the service pack.
Other than the security issues this service pack claims to rectify, seems like issues that the average slashdot reader can solve his/herself. I mean, do we really need help making Netscape the default rather than I.E.?
Re:Please Can you Stop the Headline as Commentary? (Score:5, Informative)
But, as several commentators have already pointed out, this isn't really modularising Windows at all - MS have been using the word "hide", which strongly suggests that all their stuff will be installed, it just won't have icons (rather like NetMeeting in XP).
So far so redundant.
But I was interested in the bit at the end of the article where it mentions "freezing" copies that have been activated with a known pirate key. I thought most pirate copies of XP were the corporate edition, that doesn't need activating, and should therefore be indistinguishable from legit copies? Or do they really mean the Product Key, which you enter when you install Windows? In which case, what's to stop you simply changing it in the registry - or, very worst case, simply finding a working Product Key on the net and reinstalling? Still far far easier and cheaper than going out and buying XP.
Register Article is More Interesting (Score:5, Informative)
Don't know why
Middleware apps are only Hidden: (Score:2, Informative)
You can still run IE - the executibles and dll's are all there. That is why the rest of the 9 states didn't jump for joy and say 'good microsoft... now play dead!'
Re:Biting the hand that pirates it (Score:5, Informative)
Quite useless really, there has been keygens on the net for quite some time now.
They are fighting a battle they cannot win, for each key they disable 10 more will pop up on the net.
(mod me down if you wish, this not intended as a troll/flamebait.)
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Actually, this is going to be painful for some (Score:1, Informative)
I am SURE there will be a fix/patch from the warezers within an hour of SP1 hitting the market, if not before since quite a few 'beta' testers are warezers themselves and will share the code to those who can hack it and fix it back. Still, what a pain. Thanks MS.
Re:Biting the hand that pirates it (Score:2, Informative)
Yes, I also thought that he was describing the Xbox, yet the price is quite different. However, if the Xbox OS were to be sold independently for $30... now that would be something.
Re:It isn't anything you can't do now. (Score:3, Informative)
Hell, I've had x-setup in the control panel for years. Offers all the functionality I've ever needed. At it's most basic, it helps me avoid loading what I don't want loaded, and even better is when it helps me block MS from telling me what preferences are "mandatory". Even tells the average user when not to mess with a setting (unless you're a pro) A really good FREE app, made for the people, by the people.
http://www.xteq.com/products/xset/
-Yo Grark
Watzup with today's google doodle?
Re:You don't pay for it, you don't use it (Score:2, Informative)
I.e., it's not "mob rule", but the Constitution, and the resulting body of law from it that rule.
Re:Still bloated (Score:1, Informative)
Naturally if you did a tiny bit of research it would bust the ballon of your self-richeous indignation. But that's another story.
You've always been able to do this (Score:3, Informative)
Basically the ones with two commas in a row are not hidden by default, but when you delete the word hide you have to also delete a comma, so there's only one comma. Don't ask me why this is what works.
Not suprisingly, for IE, it doesn't actually allow you to remove it, it says "remove access to internet explorer". If you open up the file tree browser thing, ("windows explorer") or just any file folder, and type in a URL in the address field, it just turns into IE.
This is my small service pack... (Score:2, Informative)
in there to a replace all for the world "hide"
once those are blank (leave the , marks... just remove the "hide" part) you can go into control panel and do add/remove windows componants. That's how I was able to get snmp loaded on Win2k Professional. It also lists COM+ componants and other fun stuff.
Re:Easiest way to get a legit key... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Even with this, MS is pulling their usual trick (Score:1, Informative)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?u
Re:Bloated? Compared to what? (Score:2, Informative)
Just my $0.015