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Online Population now Half Billion 273

mattvd writes "According to CNN, the number of people with Web access at home by the end of 2001 was 498 million." Not surprisingly, Asia is growing the fastest. It's amazing that in only 10 years or so, the net has exploded so far, so fast, and now touches 10% of the earths population.
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Online Population now Half Billion

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:14PM (#3125655)
    There are SIX billion people on Earth, Taco, not 4.98 billion.

    (But what's a billion people or so between friends, right?)
  • End of the WWW (Score:3, Interesting)

    by DCram ( 459805 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:15PM (#3125671)
    With news like this comming out it makes me wonder what these people who say that the WWW is going to die are thinking. With a base as large as that it is near imposible to kill it. Im sure there will be new tech that comes along and makes the WWW better faster and friendlier but die? I don't think so.

    Now the problem is with all these people fighting over bandwidth when are chaeper faster pipes be available for us to use? When can I say hey there are 1 mill users hitting my site and there is no lag?

    I also wonder what these people are looking at. 90% porn and the other 10% refrence material and such.

  • Population figures (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Reedo ( 234996 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:16PM (#3125679)
    How much of the earth's population has access to TV?

    There are 6.2 billion people [osearth.com] on the planet now, by the way.
  • Pretty close (Score:3, Interesting)

    by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:17PM (#3125691)
    With the current population 5,995,544,836 that makes the percent of the people online only about 8.3%. In reality it's probably even lower when you think about how many millions of those are using AOL connections;)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:22PM (#3125735)
    But the real number IS alot more then 10%!
    Only 10% of the users have computers at home, but who knows how many people have other means of access. I know in China very few people actually OWN their own computer, but hundreds of millions have to be using the internet cafes one can find on every block.
  • am from india.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by univgeek ( 442857 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:23PM (#3125749)
    And although systems are expensive, and most college students do not have computers/internet access from home, there are hundreds of internet cafes in each city. The rate for access is around 25c to 50c an hour. They also allow gaming, voice chat etc. Since the cost of local and international long distance is quite high in India (cross-subsidizing the rural areas) a lot of illegal (currently) voice chat takes place in the browsing cafes.


    Most students in the cities have email and access the net quite regularly, if only for gaming or chat through these cyber-cafes and not at home. Also gives privacy ;-)....


    And once the government legalises VoIP there is definitely going to be a huge boom in the use of the cyber-cafes.


    I am pretty sure that this must be the case in most developing economies. Of course like this article says [indiatimes.com] it needs to become a productivity tool.

  • by NathanBFH ( 558218 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:43PM (#3125922)
    500 million people certainly is a lot, and the industry as a whole has quite a bit to brag about (that much growth in only 10 years is phenominal.) However, there are a lot of the things the industry should be ashamed of, too. Usability seems to have come a long way in the last few years, but the best thing to ever happen to personal computing in terms of usability, the introduction of the GUI-based PC to the masses, will be the celebrating it's 20th birthday in 2004. 20 years and there is still a market for 400 page manuals on How To Use Microsoft Windows selling in Barnes and Nobles. How many 400 page manuals do you see selling on how to operate your microwave or your alarm clock? Your TV? How about how to send snail mail or take/develop photos? Sure PC's are complicated machines, sure the PC can do a lot more than a microwave... but does Jane Doe Grandma care? Not really, she just wants to see pictures of her grandchildren on that live hundreds miles of away, and she wants them on Christmas morning as they open their gifts. How likely is she to spend hours trying to learn how to buy a computer, plug in the 7 different wires, figure out how to dial up to a service provider, learn how to launch and use her email client, and load up the attached pictures in her photo-editing software. Not likely. It's not that she or the billions of other people on this planet that are not connected aren't capable of learning, it's that it's just not worth it to them. Face it: using a PC takes a time investment of several hours _just_ to do basic tasks, and all these people want to do is send email/pictures/video to their families, maybe read the news, and be done with it. What other home appliance (since that's what the PC is and should be to these people) have you seen that takes 2 minutes to boot up? How about that you have to push 30+ buttons to operate (how many keyboard presses & mouse clicks does it take to do what Jane Doe Grandma wants?). This all sounds pretty trivial to us geeks because we're used to pressing THOUSANDS of buttons a day to get what we want done, but we are a minority. To the 5.5 billion other people on this planet: it just seems too complicated. Have there been attempts at bridging the gap between layman and machine? Of course, but most have failed miserably. Email appliances were clunky, ugly, and still unbelievably hard to use. Windows XP still has the same complicated GUI that has been around for more 7 years (just with bigger, brighter, more obxnoxious buttons). Does it look easier? Sure, I guess. Still takes hundreds of mouse clicks to read email/news. My TV takes three to get CNN.
  • by Kushana ( 206115 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:45PM (#3125937)
    There's not going to be a revolution. Why should there? Has anyone English been significantly affected by the addition of millions of Japanese pages? Will the addition of billions of Chinese pages make any difference? No.

    Even the addition of millions of Chinese surfers will not make a difference to the web. They're going to be off surfing, producing, and supporting mostly Chinese sites, and we will stay in the English ones.

    In fact, I would propose that the addition of all those extra people makes the Net less prone to revolution, not more. If they were competing with us for scare resources, that would be one thing. But the Net will expand exponentially to accommodate them and they can all do their own thing. In their own language.
  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @02:46PM (#3125943) Journal
    Well, while not wanting to wish "abject poverty" on anyone - I think reality is, we'll always have a large percentage of people falling into that classification. Some of it is due to the geography. There are certain places in the world that just aren't good to inhabit if you want to earn money and live a good quality of life.

    If the Internet does eventually reach 30% of the population, I'd say that's due to the "trickle down" effect. PCs that the wealthier 10% discard as useless get recycled into quite usable Internet terminals for people who can't afford something newer.

    Of course, the communications infrastructure is the limiting factor, ultimately. You can sit there with the nicest PC in the world, but you can't get online if nobody will give you a connection.
  • Re:Wait (Score:4, Interesting)

    by HanzoSan ( 251665 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @03:02PM (#3126048) Homepage Journal
    Its about preserving their culture, about improving their own economy, thats why they are beginning to avoid Microsoft,

    You dont know much about China do you? Culture is everything, at least to the older generation.

    There is no culture in the USA besides capitalism,

    China sees us as cultureless and they dont want to end up like us. They like the technology of the internet but they dont like our culture and dont want to expose their youth to it.

    How can you improve an economy without learning about capitalism? You have forgotten about communism?

    It doenst benifit China in ANY way whatsoever to use our Internet, it makes more sense for them to create a seperate internet.

    So tell me what the Chinese government has in mind, please no "Evil Communist" crap either, i want logical reasons.

    In the usa, Oppression was about Capitalism and making money, it was for a reason, Censorship was about making money and maintaining power.

    The Chinese see us as their biggest threat, their greatest competitor, for them to join us in the internet, and fall down and bow before aol and microsoft, you must be joking.
  • Umm.. WRONG! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by PaxTech ( 103481 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @03:11PM (#3126117) Homepage
    Did you even READ the article you cited? It does NOT say 18% of Americans lack telephone service, it says 18% of HOUSEHOLDS whose income is BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL lack telephone service.

    The correct statistic from your cite is 6.1% of all American households lack telephone service in their home. Also, you can hardly compare these Americans, who likely are at least NEAR a phone due to neighbors, pay phones, etc., to the poor people who live in Chinese and African villages and may not be within MILES of a phone.

  • Re:Wait (Score:2, Interesting)

    by redcup ( 441955 ) on Thursday March 07, 2002 @03:13PM (#3126134)
    China isn't stupid. The government uses the military to keep information censored and the people powerless. Yes, in the US the media and the government does manipulate information, but we have access to other sources that are not manipulated in the same way.

    I do agree you must be 13 since you don't know a thing about Tiananmen Sq. Unless you think their current persecution of the Falun Gong is a sign that the government is "relaxing a bit and opening up?"

    Or is it "what is best for their economy?" Take a look at Hong Kong. It scares China because it had much more freedom and both the people and the economy prospered. Everyone wants to move there from Mainland China, so the government put restrictions on who can live there and have removed the popular vote from the upper parliament and replaced it with wealthy members of the Communist party.

    And of course China's long history and defiance in the face of institutionalized and continuing human rights abuses must be what you chalk up as "the people suffer a bit." But I guess you agree that when "the people develop their own businesses on the net and their own culture" they will for give the government for burying their newly born child alive and sterilizing the woman.

    You need a backhoe to shovel all that sh*t and you and everyone else knows it.

    bah... that was worth the rant. I have enough karma that I can call you on your distortion of the truth without fearing for a precious few points. Isn't that what karma is really about?
  • Re:Umm.. WRONG! (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 07, 2002 @03:19PM (#3126197)
    When I went back to college I did not have a phone in my apartment for a while by my choice. BTW, I was 30, getting divorced, had a voicemail box with a local phone company and used campus phones free. I knew other people that did not have phones in their places, by choice, never knew anybody that did not have a phone that wanted one. Yes, even before college when I was relatively poor.

    thank you [fazigu.org]

I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning. -- Plato

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