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MS FrontPage Restricts Free Speech II (It's True!) 763

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the on-and-on-and-on dept.
A mild controvery occured yesterday in a story claiming Microsoft prohibits anti-ms speech if you use Frontpage. Here is a followup submitted by Reyacta from the original author: "Several readers have told me their EULA for FrontPage 2002 does not contain the no-disparaging-MS term, or that the term only applies to the FrontPage logo or to the Web components like the MSNBC news headline component. Just to be sure, this afternoon I went down to the store and bought a copy of FrontPage 2002 myself. In the box was the "Microsoft Frontpage 2002" license on a four-page folded sheet, titled "End- User License Agreement For Microsoft Software." Under Section #1, Grant of License, the second paragraph headed "Restrictions" states in part: "You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services, infringe any intellectual property or other rights of these parties, violate any state, federal or international law, or promote racism, hatred or pornography." (Not only a stunning example of legal overreaching, in my opinion, but very poor grammar as well.) It appears to me to clearly apply to use of the program as a whole and not just the logo or Web components. I suspect that there are different versions of the EULA of FrontPage 2002. Perhaps the license was updated for the most recent SKU, or versions obtained through different channels don't yet have it. I'm going to try to get Microsoft to clarify where this EULA does and doesn't appear, but I'm not sure they will be very anxious to provide me with that information. Reply to Ed Foster."
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MS FrontPage Restricts Free Speech II (It's True!)

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  • by bleyddyn (196244) on Friday September 21, 2001 @12:38PM (#2330809) Homepage
    ...you may not use the Product
    to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other
    executable software residing on the Workstation Computer,.. .

    Doesn't this mean that you can't connect a monitor to a machine running XP and then use it to display any executable except Windows XP?

    Yes, this is taken out of context, but I didn't see anything else that would refute this interpretation.

    P.S. I'm assuming that this is the real EULA and not just a joke. But I could be wrong (it's happened before)

  • by leonbrooks (8043) <SentByMSBlast-No ... .brooks.fdns.net> on Saturday September 22, 2001 @06:31AM (#2333866) Homepage
    You may permit a maximum of ten (10) computers or other electronic devices (each
    a "Device") to connect to the Workstation Computer to utilize the services of the Product solely for File and Print services, Internet Information Services, and remote access (including connection sharing and telephony services).

    No streaming cameras? No X-10? No RTTY?
    Except as otherwise permitted by the
    NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop features described below, you may not use the Product to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other executable software residing on the Workstation Computer, nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate license for the Product.

    No web, FTP or gopher servers, apparently including IIS (hooray!), no VNC, probably no SSH or telnet daemons, inasmuch as M$ are certain to define their miserable CLI as a part of XP's user interface.

    Now for the scarey bit:

    There are technological measures in this Product that are designed to prevent unlicensed or illegal use of the Product. You agree that we may use those measures.

    ...even if they deliberately or accidentally fail, for example, by refusing to run certain important Open Source products. Remember ``DOS ain't done 'till Lotus won't run?'' Add this clause...
    Internet-Based Services Components. The Product contains components that enable and facilitate the use of certain Internet-based services. [but note that this doesn't actully restrict the scope of the following claim to Internet-based service software] You acknowledge and agree that Microsoft may automatically check the version of the Product and/or its components that you are utilizing and may provide upgrades or fixes to the Product that will be automatically downloaded to your Workstation Computer.

    OK, here's the big one: we can change any of your software (the ``Product'' and/or components such as applications built to run on it and containing parts of it (runtime library interface module etc) without notice, and you agree to this. This includes new ``measures'' to prevent ``unlicenced or illegal use'' - and it's no great stretch of the imagination to visualise this including software made illegal by the SSSCA such as Apache, PHP or Screem [screem.org] (does FrontPage things only better, faster, cheaper and safer).

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