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Bothers me not at all
  2044 votes / 11%
Bothers me, but only slightly
  4913 votes / 27%
Bothers me quite a bit
  5231 votes / 28%
Bothers everyone around me as I rant and fume
  2886 votes / 15%
Strikes me as quite a good idea
  2153 votes / 11%
What is this 'Daylight Saving Time,' anyhow?
  828 votes / 4%
18055 total votes.
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  • by txoof (553270) on Sunday March 09, 2014 @09:53AM (#46439627) Homepage

    Excactly!

    There's no logical argument for the time change. None. The farming argument doesn't make any sense. Farmers don't give a rip what the wall-time is. They get up when it's time to get up and get the work done. They go to bed when the work day is done and they're sleepy. If you have to get up at 3:30 to milk the cows, you get up at 3:30. If the wall clock suddenly says it's 4:30, you still get up at the same time because the cows, corn, and sun don't give a flying FSCK what the wall clock says.

    As far as providing more natural light in offices, that may have been true in 1930 when buildings were built without central HVAC with window access for everyone in mind. Though there's precious little evidence that DLS made a bit of difference in the then either. Now all but the "greenest" buildings (and some WalMarts) have their lights on during the work day weather the sun is shining or its pitch black outside.

    And my rant continues with the horrible effects on your health. Suddenly changing humans sleep patterns is terrible for general healthfulness and sleep cycles [biomedcentral.com].

    In short take your DLS and shove it where the sun will never shine

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 09, 2014 @10:01AM (#46439659)

    There's no logical argument for the time change. None.
    FALSE
    There are many logical arguments for time change. Whether the benefits outweigh the costs is what is at issue. Welcome to alternate viewpoints, population you don't count, you just want to rant.

  • by zerosomething (1353609) on Sunday March 09, 2014 @10:33AM (#46439787) Homepage
    This is such a stupid Idea! Assume is't 12:00 UTC, you work in Moscow but need to contact someone in Chicago. Are the people in Chicago up and at work or should I wait a while? Now assume it's 4:00PM in Moscow, is anyone at work in Chicago? I guess I could be wrong but I think the mental calculation is easier.
  • by Vellmont (569020) on Sunday March 09, 2014 @10:52AM (#46439895) Homepage


    We live in a 24/7 world that ignore the natural cycle and since it saves nothing,why do we need it?

    Because despite your fantasies of being disconnected from the natural world, you're part of it. Our bodies are attuned to the day/night cycle. We SHOULD be getting up earlier in the morning, it's just that clocks and regimented schedules have distorted our connection to the natural world. DST and Summer time adjust our regimented world back to the natural world.

    Also, believe it or not some people actually LIKE to go outside and experience the world. (And if you think you can just do this yourself by getting up earlier and leaving earlier.... well, you're either extremely lucky to have such a job, or extremely naive that you'll be able to adjust your schedule to your whims).

  • by Smallpond (221300) on Sunday March 09, 2014 @10:55AM (#46439915) Homepage Journal

    I think we should standardize on UTC time everywhere. Forget timezones and 'Savings Time'. One time for all - would it really bother us if we had to wake up at 03:00 and it was daylight?

    We have standardized on UTC. We are just following the principle of separating View from Logic.

  • I like DST but... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by antdude (79039) on Sunday March 09, 2014 @11:14AM (#46440025) Homepage Journal

    ... Can we keep it there forever? Stop changing it back and forth please.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 09, 2014 @01:29PM (#46440615)

    Timezones make it so that daytime is "almost" the same for people in relative proximity. "Today" is almost the same timeframe for most people who are awake at the same time, regardless of their location, give or take a couple of hours. While long distance communication tools have somewhat eroded this notion, it's still true for the vast majority of interactions. If you switched everybody to UTC, the international date line would result in massive confusion unless all times are augmented by the date for reference. Besides, switching to a singe timezone doesn't solve any significant problem.

  • Re:so much hate (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Zmobie (2478450) on Sunday March 09, 2014 @03:22PM (#46441141)

    No. No it wouldn't. We artificially connect our schedules to the hourly time frame. DST just complicates things to an unnecessary level (in the US at least, in other countries I can't say much) for adjustment and specifically writing software that doesn't lose it's damn mind when the adjustments happen. I have applied so many fucking patches to systems (some of them neither I nor my company even wrote!) that I could scream and I've only been doing professional software development for 3 years. Twice a year I have to be extra fucking alert for a string of service calls that will undoubtedly come in and we only stay in standard time for a grand total of 4 months!

    Not only that, there are already multiple states in the US that DO NOT observe DST and they get along just fine. I disagree whole-heartedly and wish to god they would abolish this constant shifting practice. If it saves so much money to be on DST then lets do it year round and save even more on not having to complicate tech systems.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 09, 2014 @04:11PM (#46441405)

    DST was a WW1 con-trick (at least in the UK) to "maximise" daylight working time for agricultural purposes. This sort of fiddling with the clock is pointless nowadays and we need to settle down to a standard time all year round. And there arises a problem - which standard do we use? In the UK, we could always stick to our local time, GMT. But there are othes who want to move to CET so that either mornings or evenings are "lighter" in winter (I can't remember which) and is a "Think of the Children" ploy as it tries to suggest that it'll avoid travelling to or from school in the dark. Other proponents of CET want it so we're in the same time zone as "the rest of Europe". They seem to think this would be a Good Idea...

    All we need to do is get away from the idea that we're "wasting" daylight at one end of the day or the other.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 09, 2014 @05:45PM (#46441805)

    That's what "more likely" means, and why the parent said that instead of "certain".

  • by CDPS (1106089) on Sunday March 09, 2014 @09:10PM (#46442683)
    My gosh, I frequently have to get up earlier than "normal" for work meetings or to go to a volleyball tournament for kid, or I may have to stay late for a work meeting or event, and on and on. In other words, for me and probably most people, many days per month are scheduled differently. I pity those who find DST such a big deal, as they must have a heck of a time with normal life situations. Change your schedule by an hour twice a year? What a struggle indeed. Seriously?
  • by ILongForDarkness (1134931) on Monday March 10, 2014 @08:41AM (#46444813)

    Amen to the idiocy of time based (puritanical via the back door) restrictions on alcohol consumption. If you work the day shift when your work is done it is happy hour. If you work the night shift too bad if you want supper food from a restaurant or a pint with your bacon and eggs.

    Dailylight savings wasn't a good idea when it was introduced and has become a pointless one since the majority of people are not agricultural workers anymore. If employers|government really cared why don't they just say 'our office hours are 8am-4pm from October to March and 9-5 the rest of the year' or whatever? Are people such sheep that as long as the number on the clock is the same as yesterday they'll blindly get up whenever you want but if you ask them to get up at a different time they'll revolt?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10, 2014 @11:13AM (#46446131)

    The biggest problem with that idea is that time would lose much of its meaning.

    To give an example, let's say you're taking an international flight that get in at 4:30am. So, will public transportation be running or will you have to get a taxi? Can you call the friends you're visiting when you land or will the be asleep? The problem is that 4:30am has lost its meaning until you contextualize to the location where you'll be. In the current system, 4:30am is almost always pre-dawn and most everyone will be asleep. That's true no matter where in the world you are because every place has its own 4:30am.

    There's value in a universal understanding of what a time means. If you removed time zones, you'd quickly see that you'd need to add place codes to every time. This would be because despite the fact that you know the precise point in time represented by an hour:minute value, you'd know almost nothing else.

  • by Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) on Monday March 10, 2014 @05:14PM (#46450275) Journal

    If only we could figure out a way to send a message to another person around the globe that didn't require them to be physically present at a particular location, nor to perform any action to recieve this message.

    Alas, it eludes us yet.

  • by Fjandr (66656) on Tuesday March 11, 2014 @05:04AM (#46453139) Homepage Journal

    We'd advance faster by removing them.

C for yourself.

 



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