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No. of vehicle license types I hold:

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None - Why should I need permission?
  2741 votes / 12%
1, terrestrial: car, *or* motorcycle, etc.
  11854 votes / 55%
1, air- or water-related (boat, plane, etc)
  227 votes / 1%
2 or 3, all ground based
  4660 votes / 21%
2 or 3, all non-ground based
185 votes / 0%
More than 3, of any kind
  1217 votes / 5%
As soon as I'm old enough, I'm there
  304 votes / 1%
21188 total votes.
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No. of vehicle license types I hold:

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  • or? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02, 2014 @04:41PM (#45849635)

    I believe they mean car xor motorcycle.

  • 2, of any kind? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by metamarmoset (2728667) on Thursday January 02, 2014 @04:44PM (#45849687)
    Where does one land and one air licence fit?
  • by Zumbs (1241138) on Thursday January 02, 2014 @05:27PM (#45850211) Homepage
    The option None - Why should I need permission? is a strange way of putting it. It implies that I am using a vehicle needing a license without having the license. The only vehicle that I use is a (pedal powered) bicycle. No need for any license there :-)
  • Limited options (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MBGMorden (803437) on Thursday January 02, 2014 @05:39PM (#45850327)

    Why are the "2" options all either "all ground" or "all non-ground"?

    I've got a drivers license (car) and a PPL-ASEL (plane) which doesn't fit into any other categories. I own a boat but boat operation isn't a licensed activity in my state.

  • by simplypeachy (706253) on Thursday January 02, 2014 @08:45PM (#45852349)

    Same age, south of the UK here. People are amazed when I turn up having cycled four miles. Apparently I must be "super-fit!" Four whole miles.

  • by ApplePy (2703131) on Thursday January 02, 2014 @09:35PM (#45852749)

    I didn't have to do any reversing,

    That's because we don't do "reversing" here, we "back up". :-)

    But I hear ya. It's hard to expect kids to be taught about braking distances in a country that doesn't require one to be able to read and write in any language (let alone English) in order to vote. Requiring literacy and knowledge is racist, fascist, imperialist, elitist, and several other ists as well.

  • by TheRaven64 (641858) on Friday January 03, 2014 @07:15AM (#45855015) Journal
    Not necessarily a hipster, just someone who doesn't live in the USA. Here it's much easier to get around with a bike than a car and given the difference in cost, there's no real incentive to own a car. I've never got a driving license because owning a car has never seemed useful anywhere that I've lived.

    "OOP is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California" — Edsger Dijkstra

    Shame he didn't pay a bit more attention: Alan Kay was in Utah (Salt Lake City) when he came up with the idea.

  • On Licensure (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Pfhorrest (545131) on Friday January 03, 2014 @06:39PM (#45861237) Homepage Journal

    It's true though.

    A person can, right now, go out and start driving a car without a license, and if they operate it correctly and thus don't get pulled over, nobody will be any the wiser. No harm will be done by the driver, or to the driver by the state (i.e. in punishment). Barring random stops at least, which are another issue entirely.

    Likewise a person with a license can go out and do exactly the same thing with exactly the same results. Good drivers, with or without licenses, see the same results, and that is as it should.

    Conversely, a person with a license can go out, operate a vehicle incorrectly, and possibly cause harm, and if so be appropriately punished by the state for doing so.

    While a person without a license can go out, do the exact same things wrong, risking the exact same harm, and not only be punished for that, as appropriate, but also disproportionately for having the GALL to NOT ASK PERMISSION FIRST! Throw the book at them!

    Getting proper training before engaging in risky activities is a good idea. Strongly encouraging people to get that training is a good idea. And like most trainings, certifying that one has successfully completed it is great. But punishing someone who is not doing anything wrong merely for not asking prior permission to do something is horrible. Having to ask prior permission to do things is the very antithesis of liberty: the principle that anything is automatically permissible until it threatens another.

    Good drivers should not be punished in any case whatsoever because they've done nothing wrong, and bad drivers should be punished exactly the same regardless of whether they're driving bad because they never took a test or because they immediately forgot everything that was on the test.

In Nature there are neither rewards nor punishments, there are consequences. -- R.G. Ingersoll


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