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It Varies (Score:4, Interesting)
45 minutes is fairly typical, though oddly enough if there is a strike by the workers it runs faster and if theres the wrong type of leaves on the track it can be a LOT longer.
Re:It Varies (Score:3)
The wrong kind of leaves will stop em dead in their tracks. (pun intended)
Unfortunately we have the wrong kind of leaves all over.
In addition, the streets don't take kindly to a 5.7 richters tram-passing every 15 minutes even with concrete molded support for the rails.
Bus works remarkably well though...
Re:It Varies (Score:3)
The subway over here in Stockholm does too.. every year.
I am baffled by the fact that they have these problems every freaking year. It is not like "autumn" is something that does not happen every year.
Re:It Varies (Score:3)
the wrong type of leaves on the track
I need to know what kind of leaves can stop a train...
Re:It Varies (Score:5, Informative)
the wrong type of leaves on the track
I need to know what kind of leaves can stop a train...
I wondered this, too, so I did a Google search, and found this story: "The villain leaves that stop trains [standard.co.uk]"
The article finishes with a listing of the "Sinister Six": Ash, Horse Chestnut, Lime, Sycamore, Poplar, and Sweet Chestnut.
Re:It Varies (Score:2)
Huh.
If "they" were clever enough to put cowcatchers in front of trains, why not some sort of rotating brushes that sweep away the leaves?
Re:It Varies (Score:2)
Because it's not nice, leafy leaves on the track. The organic compounds in the leaves create a coating on the track that makes it much harder for the trains to stop and it's sometimes not a simple matter of just brushing leaves away.
(According to the above-linked Fing article.)
Re:It Varies (Score:2)
Some form of stiff-bristled rotating broom-like device must be able to knock off this organic gunk.
Re:It Varies (Score:2)
Some form of stiff-bristled rotating broom-like device must be able to knock off this organic gunk.
No. I think they have to use high-pressure water jets at a (relatively) slow speed -- that's not going to work at the speeds a passenger train travels at.
Someone tried making a laser system: http://www.railway-technology.com/features/feature1457/ [railway-technology.com] but 40mph wasn't enough.
They do put sand on the track when the brakes are applied.
Re:It Varies (Score:3)
Most chestnuts have really high levels of saponins, imagine spreading really thick liquid soap on your rails..
if you can't zap 'em, then chop 'em (Score:2)
blah blah blah
six different species can cause problems
four obvious technical solutions wouldn't work in practice
whine whinge
So replace the offending tree species along the railway lines with more railroad-compatible species. DUH
Re:It Varies (Score:2)
Tube + the infamous Southeastern means 2.5 hours each way on a good day :-(
Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2, Insightful)
3kms. Why the hell didn't you walk or cycle? Unless you live in the Rockies or European Alps a 3km cycle would only take you about 10 minutes. Not even enough time to work up a sweat.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
That's funny because... my new commute is 2.4 km (yay!) and I do live in the Rockies (Cranbrook, BC).
Even though I have the option to bring a company vehicle home, I choose to either drive my own truck, or ride my bicycle. I've been pretty good at taking the bike to and from work. It's a fairly gentle ride home, but my biggest complaint is that my ride is directly south and every day last week there has been a strong wind blowing north while I'm riding home.
I can't think that I'll be riding much once the snow starts flying though.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
You should really consider to get yourself a bicycle. Then you don't have the problem of traffic jams - and 3 km should take you 10-15 minutes, possibly faster even. Beats using a car at so many fronts (fuel and vehicle cost, your health, environment, less people jamming that congested road...)
You should be able to WALK that distance in about 30 minutes!
Personally for a 3 km commute I'd see using a car as second choice, and only if other options are impossible.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3, Informative)
Since the parent used metric I'm going to assume he is European (or Canookian). It's easy to say "you should bike!" if you don't live in a place where it is over 34 degrees (Celsius) for much of the year with high humidity. I live in Atlanta and I walk to work - which for me is about a five minute walk. That's as far as I am willing to go - if it was ten minutes, I would need a shower by the time I got to the office most of the year. And Atlanta is hardly a hot city compared to many in the United States.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
"Exactly why all the rest of us HATE you cyclists. "
Rage-filled motorists such as you are a huge part of the problem. It's been my experience that most cyclists make a reasonable effort to follow the rules of the road. But you don't notice them; you suffer from the classic stereotype-enforcing problem of only perceiving the ones who don't, and use it to justify your apparent road-rage.
Furthermore, the cyclists who don't follow the rules are often doing so to compensate for the fact that neither do so many of you. Seriously. I drive a car (weather requiring), and I see my fellow motorists ignoring everything from speed limits, to no-turn-on-reds, to signal-before-lane-changes... which is to say nothing of their contempt for the rules requiring them to give cyclists the same rights as they have.
In short, motorists are (collectively) creating the problem you're complaining about. When I (as a cyclist) violate traffic laws, it's to protect myself; when a motorist does it, it's because he feels like it, like an entitled little child. So whiny hypocritical motorists such you have little justification for complaining. Cyclists used to have equal rights on the road, before those roads evolved into motors-only zones, and cyclists have been literally pushed into the gutters. And you blame us for not handling that to your liking?
Do you want bicyclists out of your way? Petition the city to set up lanes for them to use. Do you want cyclists to abide by the rules of the road? Get the log out of your own eye first.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2, Insightful)
"Rage-filled motorists such as you are a huge part of the problem. It's been my experience that most cyclists make a reasonable effort to follow the rules of the road."
not around my city, they ride a mm from the car lane, even though the bike lane is wide enough for a harley trike, they dont look just go, and then ...
"But you don't notice them;"
I get so tired of that, really? I didnt notice the douche in my lane with his ass up in the air in a neon blue outfit, or did he not bother to turn his head to see my 2,000lb car before turning left?
"In short, motorists are (collectively) creating the problem you're complaining about."
sorry bub your the minority here, as much as the start of this was a dumbass rant, you completed it with a self entitled whiny bitch fest, the real problem is that motorist are a bunch of jackass idiots, then here comes douchy mc bike acting like the road is their own personal space and how dare we invade that.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3)
Really dude, we slam on the brakes for you idiots all the time. If we really were assholes there'd be bunches more of you dead every day. A nice Sunday afternoon riding your bike is one thing. Driving in rush hour traffic when it's not really safe even in the cab of an F250 is entirely another. If there's no bike lane for you then for your own saftey you should avoid riding a bike but if you must, at least consider how difficult you are to see for motorists in the panic stricken struggle to survive rush hour. If you're on the street how about trying to obey the rules and quit weaving in and out of traffic stalled cars, you never know when they'll be jumping lanes. Try to not run red lights. Give some kind of signal before you change lanes or turn. You know, all those things 90 percent of cyclists don't do.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3)
Depends.
One issue is that bike lanes are commonly put just to the left of parking lanes. This means that it's quite possible that someone is going to open a door in front of you because they're not paying attention. This is a bad design.
If that was the case, I can certainly understand it. Hitting a door with your bicycle can hurt.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
It would help if cities didn't count the actual gutter towards meeting the standard bike lane width (or ignore said standard width entirely).
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
In the city where I live I often see traffic being slowed down by cyclists who insist on cycling on the road when there is a separate cycle path less than 10 metres away, while drivers dutifully half change lanes to avoid the cyclist (thus slowing down the next lane as well) before returning to the outer lane.
Most drivers are sane and caring and really want to avoid hurting anyone, so we just put up with it. So when a car is moving along at a decent speed and for some reason a cyclist suddenly appears (such as round a turn, or when another car changes lane and reveals the cyclist in front) the surprise and fear felt by drivers is a legitimate source of stress and anxiety.
It's not about feeling entitled to own the road. It's about travelling responsibly and respectfully, whether you're in a car or on a bike.
Sometimes cyclists have no alternative - then driving on the road is perfectly understandable (and most drivers I know blame poor infrastructure).
Sometimes cyclists have excellent alternatives - then driving on the road is not appreciated (and most drivers I know blame disrespectful or unaware cyclists).
And you know what? Many of us are both cyclists and drivers, so don't polarise the discussion with "us cyclists and you drivers". Heated opinions tend to disrupt clear thinking and productive discussion.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
In the city where I live I often see traffic being slowed down by cyclists who insist on cycling on the road when there is a separate cycle path less than 10 metres away, while drivers dutifully half change lanes to avoid the cyclist (thus slowing down the next lane as well) before returning to the outer lane.
Actual cycle paths dedicated to cycling tend to be in the land of fairies and unicorns. Most of them are combined paths full of pedestrians, who don't obey any kind of traffic rules. You as the high-speed traveler is responsible for avoiding them and anyone who walks out of a door way or rounds a corner or exists a gate. Kids can suddenly do anything and it's not like crossing the street, they have no qualms running across your path. They are generally less cleaned for broken glass and other shrapnel. This constant brake and accelerate is both tiring and slow, the pedals on a bike isn't like pushing the gas pedal on a car. And every crossing street you typically have to either go up or under or wait for a chance to cross.
The people that want to use their bike for transport and exercise often feel they're just as bad a fit there as on the road. Many pedestrians complain about the "bike terror" when a bicycle zips past them at 20-30km/h, slow for a car lane but pretty fast compared to people walking at 5km/h. Just like cars often have to slow down to biking speed, well cyclists have to slow down to walk speed. On low speed roads (up to 50km/h or 30 mph) I by far prefer bike lanes. I'm not getting in the way of the cars, the pedestrians aren't getting in my way, everybody's happy. A broad road shoulder will also do, as long as it's well enough to actually cycle on. If it's full of holes and crap it's more dangerous for me having to swerve onto the road than being on the road.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3, Insightful)
I've been on the road and what's made me want to punch some idiot cyclist isn't that he's slowed me down, it's because he's swerved out of nowhere way too close to me and almost hurting the guy scares the crap out of me.
We're the ones in the speeding tin cans that can do a LOT more damage to a cyclist than they can do to us. It's the unnecessary burst of adrenalyn a near-miss generates because some cyclists don't follow the road rules that gets some of us.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Funny)
Actual cycle paths dedicated to cycling tend to be in the land of fairies and unicorns.
That's funny... I live in that country, but we usually call it the Netherlands.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Wish I had modpoints right now. The Netherlands really have it figured out. I live in Germany, right across the border. And while we do have some nice bicycle paths, it's not comparable to what my neighbors have that live 15 minutes by bike over the border.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
that's real funny, here in England we have a national cycle network which is an unbroken dedicated cycle lane which stretches from Land's End to John O'Groats and hits any settlement with more than 4,000 people.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3)
According to wikipedia, you guys have 21,000 km of bike lanes (which is quite formidable, especially when you realize this has been built quite recently)... but we have over 35,000 km in a country that is much smaller in area and population.
Note that I am not saying that it's bad in the UK. Far from. It's just that it's nearly perfected over here. The infrastructure is especially impressive in the urban areas. Almost every major road has a bike lane (in both directions). Cyclists are nearly 100% of the time separated from both pedestrians and cars... Quiet rural roads and old town centers are the only exceptions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Cycle_Network [wikipedia.org]
http://www.fietsersbond.nl/node/5120 [fietsersbond.nl]
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:4, Insightful)
while drivers dutifully half change lanes to avoid the cyclist (thus slowing down the next lane as well) before returning to the outer lane.
Technically in most states that cyclist is entitled to the entire lane - they've got every bit as much right to lanes as autos.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
my sentiments exactly.
Helps when your bicycle weighs as much as a Honda Superdream and has an eight foot wheelbase. Nobody wants to hit that with their car.
Re:Any decent cyclist is too fast for most bike pa (Score:2)
What are speed limits on bike paths?
I understand those words individually, but they make no sense assembled in that manner.
Seriously, I have never seen any kind of speed limit on any bike path around here.
Re:Any decent cyclist is too fast for most bike pa (Score:2)
they're the same as traffic limits on the same stretch of road. In a 30 zone it'll be 30, and you bet your arse I'll be tooling along at that kind of speed* - on the cycle track - with little trouble. If someone doesn't hear me coming with my audio system blasting out 120 decibels while he's cocking his cellphone or see me and the half million candlepower headlights 'cos he's too busy Facefucking his imaginary girlfriend, well HE SHOULDN'T BE ON A TRAFFIC LANE, SHOULD HE!?
*No I don't wear team colours or spandex pants. I don't need trophies to prove how fast or how far I can go on a trip, I know what I'm capable of - 140 mile round trip in a day, no problem - twice in a week? Let's go. If I stopped smoking (unlikely) I could double that.
Re:Any decent cyclist is too fast for most bike pa (Score:2)
Isn't 30MPH close to lance armstrong's average speed during the TDF?
Re:Any decent cyclist is too fast for most bike pa (Score:3)
nope. Well, sort of. Bear in mind that average speeds are clocked over a 120 mile stage, which can take 5 hours to complete.
Pelaton speed on a road stage is around 25mph (down to 10-15 on steep hills and up to 70-80 on fast downs). Breakaways go nearer 30, sprints can hit 50. Time trials average 32, velodrome riders can hit 60-65.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Judging by your name, you could be Dutch, but by your mentioning of "No turn on Red" you could be a US citizen. As a Dutchman you would enjoy the excellent infrastructure that was created for bicycles, and as such you could safely and with minimal interaction with other traffic go about your daily business. Having said that, I've seen bicyclists in Sweden and Israel do things that would make you raise the eyebrow, and the worst of it is they would be doing that on roads on which cars drive 90 km/hr, rather than safely tucked away in a separate bike lane.
In those situations, I can understand the frustration of the motorist. In other situations, where bicycles are hapless plonkers, I also understand the frustration of said motorists. Now when people are assholes to me on the road, I can understand the frustrations of the motorist that is trying to be civilized. Furthermore, as a motorcycle-rider I also fully understand the frustration of that group with hapless fuckers in cars that don't seem to know or care about their surroundings.
Lastly, I fully understand the pedestrian's frustration with all of the above, and the cyclist's frustrations. My point is that there is no one single group of people in traffic that "Create the problem". The roads are simply a piece of vital infrastructure that way too many people with way too different capabilities (physically, technologically and psychologically) make use of. This causes natural clashes of interests and accidents.
The fact that in The Netherlands, only 790 people get killed every year, in one of the most densely populated countries on the planet, is amazing. The chance of dying in traffic is 4,8:100.000. Somehow 16.500.000 people get along quite well in traffic jams, trains, planes, automobiles, on mopeds, scoot-mobiles (old people thing), bicycles and motorcycles as well as on foot. For the US, it's still 13,9:100.000, and only 2.2% of all deaths on the planet were traffic related in 2009. Statistically it hovers between low birth weight and something as anachronistic (in the Western world) as Tuberculosis.
Having said all that, most people on the road are quite civilized, and the amount of "entitled little children" is actually quite small. The statistic belies the attitude problem you claim is rampant.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3)
It's been my experience that most cyclists make a reasonable effort to follow the rules of the road. But you don't notice them; you suffer from the classic stereotype-enforcing problem of only perceiving the ones who don't, and use it to justify your apparent road-rage.
The same can be said of cyclist rage at cars -- most car drivers are conscientious and will go a half-lane out of their way to leave a buffer between them and bicycles. Most will not bat an eye if we are both coming to a 4-way stop and I bike first so as not to have to put my foot down, they'll often even wave me along. But those whizz right by my memory (or I whizz past them while they are stuck in traffic) compared to the ones that nearly kill you.
In fact, FWIW, my general experience in life is that the proportion of assholes to decent human beings is pretty constant no matter where you look. This is probably a variant of Sturgeon's Law [wikipedia.org] ...
[ Said as a combination car/motorcycle/scooter/bicycle rider, which gets me all kinds of anger from my cyclist/motorcycle friends when they rant about asshole driver talking on his cell phone and car friends when they rant about asshole biker/motorcyclist that was weaving lanes and cutting everyone else off. ]
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
That's pretty much my experience. Around here, 99% of car drivers are courteous and will try hard not just to avoid hitting you on a bike, but to avoid being sufficiently close that you need to care. Some, however, just shouldn't be allowed on the road. Such as the ones that turn suddenly without indicating when you're just behind them, so you have to slam on the breaks to avoid hitting them. Or the ones that open their doors when parked without checking that no one is coming (this is a problem for other people in cars on some parts of the road too). Or the ones that think the little picture of the two wheeled vehicle in the small lane on one side of the road means that they're only allowed to put two of their SUV's wheels into it.
Bikes aren't blameless either. I've seen people on bikes ignore a red light and force someone in a car to swerve. That must be a terrifying experience for the driver and I'd love to see more fines being given to cyclists who do that. Or, my personal pet hate, cyclists who think that lights are something that only other road vehicles need. Here (in the UK) it is illegal to cycle on the road at night without lights, but that doesn't seem to stop a lot of people, who seem completely unaware of the fact that they're totally invisible to everyone else until you're just about to hit them...
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
When I (as a cyclist) violate traffic laws, it's to protect myself [...]
I'm kind of curious if you can give me an example of this. I'm not doubting you--heck, here in the US, there's a patchwork of laws and, depending on the State, it wouldn't surprise if it were.
Heck, I'll give you an example, but it doesn't really apply: Where I used to work, there was a very bicycle unfriendly street I had to travel. After doing this a few times, I decided that I'd break the law and ride on the sidewalk. I did so in a courteous manner--I was the interloper here, after all, and the last thing I wanted was somebody to call a cop. I'd say "Excuse me" when passing a pedestrian and "Thank you" if they moved over to let me pass. But I was breaking the law in order to enhance my safety.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2, Informative)
Rage-filled motorists such as you are a huge part of the problem. It's been my experience that most cyclists make a reasonable effort to follow the rules of the road.
The set of rules that is perceived as "normal" for cyclists is not the same as the one for motorists. You may consider that acceptable or not, but that is certainly true
It is routine for a cyclists to go straight on red light if the cross road is empty (and I've only seen a car go straight-on-red twice in my life). I have never seen a cyclist stop at the stop sign. Yes, motorists run stop signs often enough, but I don't recall seeing a cyclists ever stop at one.
And I am certainly yet to hear or see a cop _ticket_ a red-light or stop-sign running cyclist. Because it's not a big deal, right?
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
you can have all the right of way you want, we'll see how far you get when gasoline hits USD$100 a litre.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Hang on, where's the electric window control on a bicycle?
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Whatever I replied earlier to the gentleman who claims you're the cause of the problem doesn't change the fact that you sound like a bit of an asshole, because in a country without dedicated infrastructure for bicycles, it is a daunting and precarious mode of transportation. I know it's irritating to deal with somewhat unpredictable people in traffic, but I do understand the plight of what seems to be the US bicyclist. I assume your'e in the US because you mention an amendment in your sig.
Our 17th Amendment, by the way, is "Niemand kan tegen zijn wil worden afgehouden van de rechter die de wet hem toekent.". This means that nobody can be denied access from the judge he or she deserves by law.", which kinda boils down to the fair trial thing, as far as I interpret it. I don't wish to repeal it.
Actually, if I were a US citizen, I would get rid of the second amendment before any other. The right to bear arms doesn't seem to work too well for your murder statistics, and heaven knows US citizens are quite paranoid about safety in spite of the "added security" owning a gun brings you. Not mention the fact that condoning violence of any kind is simply uncivilized.
But then I have you pegged for a Republican since you obviously have an issue with "Federal power" rather than State Legislature.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Patently untrue. Motorists who are slowed down by bicyclists lose absolutely no time, as they can go much faster on the empty stretch of the road created by the slow-down -- until caught up in traffic yet again, which inevitably consists of other cars. Your clueless anger just proves you're a lousy driver and a danger to other people. You should consider walking or taking the bus. Or be forced to, really.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Whatever man. I sit in traffic every day in the middle of rush hour while people on bikes ride between lanes, cross multiple lanes of traffic against lights etc. Its NOT LEGAL, and its a major safety hazard and nuisance. I have never been cited for a moving violation while driving, EVER. I follow the rules, thank you very much so don't tell me I am the one endangering anyone.
Which is not say its only cyclists that cause problems. I watch other drivers cross solid lines and similar all the time to get around stopped traffic as well. The thing is they at least are doing it a high rate of speed so don't cause huge delays, except when they do get into a wreck and than suddenly everyone's commute is 30min longer. The only consolation there is that at least that individual is going to get a reminder not be an idiot, jerk, or both in the future when he gets the notice say his insurance is being canceled and has to find a new more expensive policy. I just think at least during rush hour traffic laws should be enforced as heavily on pedestrians and cyclists as they are on motorists. I'd really like see Pedestrians really get written up for jaywalking or walking on the wrong side a street without side walks.
All the complaints about lack of infrastructure not withstanding. Society decided to build roads and traffic systems that primary cater to automobiles to frigging bad. If that is the problem, and I agree it is, City Council meets several times a month. If you want to ride you bike and not have to take a back seat to motorists and pedestrians a like, that the place to start getting the problem solved.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2, Flamebait)
You should try walking sometime. It will do you good, give you some perspective. You really seem like someone who's never had to walk anywhere, which might explain your obvious high stress level. Get some exercise.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
Whatever man. I sit in traffic every day in the middle of rush hour while people on bikes ride between lanes, cross multiple lanes of traffic against lights etc. Its NOT LEGAL, and its a major safety hazard and nuisance. Not legal? I doubt it. "Hazard and nuisance"? Bollocks. You just resent someone getting ahead of you while you're stuck. Cyclists risk their lives by riding in traffic. the few times they have an advantage that their manoeuvrability and small size allows them, they take it. Should I just sit in a traffic jam while the cars around me are bumper to bumper, and then when the traffic starts moving have them blowing their horns at me to get out of the way? If I slide through the jam and go on my way, I'm gone and not bothering you or anyone and I can ride safely on an empty road for a while.
My priorities when riding in the city are 1) not getting killed by drivers 2) not getting busted by cops. 3) getting A to B in the most pleasant way (avoiding bad traffic, rough roads and pollution). That's all.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
I cycle to work every day.
15.5 km one way (~45 minutes).
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2)
What boggles my mind about some/most cyclists' attitude is that they seem oblivious the the simple fact of physics that when their 150 lb body comes in contention with a 2000 lb SUV, they lose, every time. Cyclists should always view vehicles as potential deadly dangers and should ride defensively, not blithely assume that magically having some imaginary right-of-way means they can obliviously piddle around on major thoroughfares.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3)
4 times the mileage (kilometerage?) for highway driving versus city? Using less gas per minute (not per km) despite driving at substantially higher speeds? Unlikely.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3)
4 times the mileage (kilometerage?) for highway driving versus city? Using less gas per minute (not per km) despite driving at substantially higher speeds? Unlikely.
Not too unlikely - start-stop, start-stop.. You can easily waste a lot of gas at traffic lights.
I put 15, but... (Score:2)
Re:I put 15, but... (Score:5, Funny)
I had the same problem in Northern Virginia. I would love to have been able to cycle to the Metro station. But, I would likely get killed on the way by one of the many idiot drivers who should not even be allowed near an automobile.
Just get their attention by sending them a text message.
Closest to work possible! (Score:5, Funny)
I have a 10 minutes walk to get to work. Since I live in Canada for 3/4 of the year that commute involves a snowstorm or bears, most often both. I'm thinking about moving closer to work.
I actually prefer moving closer to work, even with higher prices. It usually pays off since I get more productivity time for myself every day and less traffic frustrations, I'm at the point where I can actually walk to work and it is awesome. Still, barely close enough to come back home for lunch, so I'm moving again next year!
Re:Closest to work possible! (Score:3)
I have a 10 minutes walk to get to work. Since I live in Canada for 3/4 of the year that commute involves a snowstorm or bears, most often both. I'm thinking about moving closer to work.
But those bears are useful! They help you do that "walk" in much less than the 30 minutes it would otherwise take.
Don't Pander to Stereotypes (Score:2, Funny)
I'm from Canada too eh and I object to the stereotype that all 10 minute commutes include bears. There are several places in Canada where urbanization is so rampant that there are only arctic wolves and and wild cariboo to block your path.
2 hours, but only temporarily (Score:2)
I formerly had a 15 minute commute, but took a job in another state, 90 miles and one and a half to two and a half hours away, depending on traffic. Yes, I'm nuts and commute daily - I like my family and want to see them regularly.
We move into our new house in a couple of weeks, and my commute should be around 15 minutes again. I can't wait.
1 hr 40 minutes. (Score:4, Interesting)
Commuting by train from Connecticut to Harlem (NYC), then taking a bus to Columbia U. 100 minutes in total, each way. Taking the train is pretty great, though - you can relax, use your laptop (even plug it in if needed), catch up on emails and talk to folks. On some trains there's even a bar car. It definitely beats driving in, even if I'd save a few minutes on the drive.
I wish I had some commute... (Score:5, Interesting)
45 by Bicycle (Score:2, Interesting)
And a lot more pleasant than even 10 minutes in a car (except when I'm dodging texters and homicidal maniacs).
Re:45 by Bicycle (Score:2)
And a lot more pleasant than even 10 minutes in a car (except when I'm dodging texters and homicidal maniacs).
Same here. 1 hr if I obey traffic rules: no shortcuts through pedestrian paths, no one-way streets in the wrong direction, stop at red lights without cross traffic.
Highly Variable (Score:2)
NJ to Brooklyn by mass-trans: 2-2.5 hours
MTA and NJT actively hates its customers.
Depends on my mood.... (Score:2)
18 minutes by bike.
45 minutes by feet.
Can;t wait to get a flying car to see how long that take.
30-45 minutes (Score:4, Funny)
Offshore oil rig (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, it's about an hour to the airport. That flight takes about 80 minutes. Then typically stay in a hotel for the night. Next day take a chopper ride, about 80-90 minutes. A fairly lengthy commute. But I only travel once every three weeks. (Offshore oil rig.)
Re:Offshore oil rig (Score:2)
If you work offshore, then your real commute is the 5-10 minutes it takes to walk from your bunk to your office/logging unit/rig floor
Rural location (Score:2)
It varies. (Score:2)
Usually, an hour. Without traffics, about 45 minutes. With traffics, it can be up to two hours. :(
about 2-3 days (Score:2)
Going to the International Space Station sucks. You can't imagine how annoying it is to hear people complain about normal flights with a bit cramped seats, and food not to their likings. Turbulence is much worse here too.
(no, not really, but I can dream)
15 to 20 (Score:2)
depends, 15 or 30 minutes (Score:2)
Tough being jobless (Score:4, Funny)
Dang.
Depends on the mode (Score:2)
In a car, about 15 minutes
On skates, about 25 minutes
If injured (never used to be an issue but has happened twice in the last three months) it is zero becuase I work from home.
Between 60 and 90 minutes (Score:2)
It's longer when I take transit, but I still prefer that because it's not stressful. A long commute is a tradeoff for working at a job I love at a place I really like.
I do get to telecommute one day a week, tough - that makes a big difference to me.
10-20 minutes (Score:2)
20 minutes walk or 10 minute bicycle ride or 30 minute by car (+ 10 minute walk from the parking lot). But normally I walk. Helps me to clear my mind after work and wake up in the morning ;-)
5 Minutes (Score:2)
Retired Means No Commute (Score:2)
I retired in 2003 after six years of the commute from Hell. Work was 42 miles from my home. Going to work usually took 1.25 hours. Returning home usually took 2.5 hours, TWICE AS LONG. That was an average of less than 20 miles per hour.
In my last job, my coworkers were friendly. My managers were technically competent as well as being good leaders. The company as a whole treated me as a valued professional. But the commute was killing me. Although I was taking two different medications for blood pressure, my readings were still around 135/90. Eventually, I lost 35%-40% of my kidney function because of high blood pressure.
When I retired, my blood pressure plummeted. Although I still take a medication for it, the medication is much more mild. My pressure is around 120/60.
Whenever I get nostalgic about my career, I go to the Web and check the traffic reports for the greater Los Angeles area. Instant cure!
This poll is a bit skewed (Score:2)
The average /. reader is probably between 20 and 40 years old, paid fairly well and more likely to want to live in the city near their job. I for one fit in this category (and wouldn't have it any other way) but it's definitely not useful data for anything else.
quick AM commute home (Score:2)
Leaving the office between 0000 and 0100, it's only about 8 minutes.
Heading in at 1600, it's more like 25.
Comment removed (Score:2)
Bus to Work (Score:2)
My work pays me for not parking on site (street parking is about 5 minutes away) The sum is almost equal to what it cost me to catch a bus to work. So I have sold our second car and now I catch public transport. I change busses at the interchange, so the total time including a 10 minute walk to my bus transitway is around 45 minutes.
No traffic frustrations as there are dedicated bus lanes on both legs of the journey, and I have now gone back to my old hobby of reading!
It's actually a nice relaxing way to come to work. I miss being able to go home for lunch at time when I used to drive (I live around 15 minutes by car from work), but I actually like the public transport. No frustration or traffic jams in the afternoons.
5 minutes now (Score:2)
I used to live a significant distance from where I ended up working - I'm talking 40-50 minutes *each* *way*. I was burning through a full tank of gas each week, and spent roughly 8 hours a week in the car. Not fun.
So I moved. New apartment is about five minutes from the office, ten minutes if traffic is *really* bad. I haven't tried biking to work yet, but I think even that would only be 20 minutes or so. And it might be worth it just for the parking - getting a spot at the office is easy, but trying to find a parking spot downtown? Sometimes it takes me longer to park than it does to drive. Biking would fix that. Hell, I can feasibly *walk* to work if necessary (or I want the exercise).
home commute (Score:2)
I work from home ATM, though I could've out in 15 or 30 minutes because that's what it takes. Rarely do I get up and working right away. There is some mental "traveling" that commuters don't notice because it's included.
Bikers vs. Drivers (Score:2)
I don't have a morning commute you insensit (Score:2)
I work late afternoon to evenings. Commute is between 15 and 45 depending if I bike or walk. The public transit is so skewed for other directions that it'd take just as long to walk so that's what I do even in bad weather.
one if by land... (Score:2)
My commute is 13 minutes by car and 30 by bicycle. I prefer the bike option as I'm more productive when I get to work. When I lived in NY my commute was 35 minutes by car or 25 if I took the bicycle. Traffic sucked.
used to be 0 minutes to 19 hours... (Score:2)
depending on whether I was working from home or travelling to pretty much anywhere in the UK for a stopover of anything from two days to three weeks. All the stress from travelling took its toll on me and I don't do that anymore, though I still telecommute for consultations.
15 Minutes walking commute? (Score:2)
I put 15min. However it is really more like 8-10min, walking.
5 minutes (Score:2)
I had to vote 15, but actually it's more like 5 minutes by car. Or about 4 minutes by bike, but let's not go there:P I consider anything longer than that to be totally unacceptable. Idiots.
I work Night Shift (Score:2)
You insensitive clods!
But it takes me 17-20 minutes to walk to work at night during the current season. A bit slower in the winter.
Wait wait... (Score:3)
they let you all *leave* work?!
Re:15 minutes by bike. (Score:2)
Re:Depends (Score:5, Funny)
Mine depends a well. Strangely though, I have noticed that my morning commute is the same as my evening one but in the opposite direction.
Re:Depends (Score:2)
45 minutes, 15 minutes or zero minutes depending on whether I am working from home or commuting during rush hour like I did today. 15 minutes during non-rush hour, 45 minutes to 1 1/2 hours during rush hour, depending on route (and the 1 1/2 hour way is the way google GPS recommends, lol - did it once, never again, and google says that for both shortest and fastest route).
Re:Same here (Score:5, Funny)
(And next year we're moving the lab, to a location that's just as inconvenient )
... from Los Pollos Hermanos to Vamonos Pest.