How Long Is Your Morning Commute?
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Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2, Insightful)
3kms. Why the hell didn't you walk or cycle? Unless you live in the Rockies or European Alps a 3km cycle would only take you about 10 minutes. Not even enough time to work up a sweat.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
You should really consider to get yourself a bicycle. Then you don't have the problem of traffic jams - and 3 km should take you 10-15 minutes, possibly faster even. Beats using a car at so many fronts (fuel and vehicle cost, your health, environment, less people jamming that congested road...)
You should be able to WALK that distance in about 30 minutes!
Personally for a 3 km commute I'd see using a car as second choice, and only if other options are impossible.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:1, Insightful)
You should really consider to get yourself a bicycle. Then you don't have the problem of traffic jams
Exactly why all the rest of us HATE you cyclists. You always want to have it both ways. When the side walks crowded you ride 15mph slower than everyone else in a traffic lane. When the walks are clear you use them until it comes time to make your turn than you just cut out into traffic rather than wait for the pedestrian walk signal.
Seriously which is are you a pedestrian or traveling in a vehicle? Pick one set of road rules and F**KING OBEY THEM. You are the CAUSE of tons of traffic in near down towns because everyone else is slamming their breaks trying to avoid killing you while you make up the rules as you go along evading traffic control devices etc.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
"Exactly why all the rest of us HATE you cyclists. "
Rage-filled motorists such as you are a huge part of the problem. It's been my experience that most cyclists make a reasonable effort to follow the rules of the road. But you don't notice them; you suffer from the classic stereotype-enforcing problem of only perceiving the ones who don't, and use it to justify your apparent road-rage.
Furthermore, the cyclists who don't follow the rules are often doing so to compensate for the fact that neither do so many of you. Seriously. I drive a car (weather requiring), and I see my fellow motorists ignoring everything from speed limits, to no-turn-on-reds, to signal-before-lane-changes... which is to say nothing of their contempt for the rules requiring them to give cyclists the same rights as they have.
In short, motorists are (collectively) creating the problem you're complaining about. When I (as a cyclist) violate traffic laws, it's to protect myself; when a motorist does it, it's because he feels like it, like an entitled little child. So whiny hypocritical motorists such you have little justification for complaining. Cyclists used to have equal rights on the road, before those roads evolved into motors-only zones, and cyclists have been literally pushed into the gutters. And you blame us for not handling that to your liking?
Do you want bicyclists out of your way? Petition the city to set up lanes for them to use. Do you want cyclists to abide by the rules of the road? Get the log out of your own eye first.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2, Insightful)
"Rage-filled motorists such as you are a huge part of the problem. It's been my experience that most cyclists make a reasonable effort to follow the rules of the road."
not around my city, they ride a mm from the car lane, even though the bike lane is wide enough for a harley trike, they dont look just go, and then ...
"But you don't notice them;"
I get so tired of that, really? I didnt notice the douche in my lane with his ass up in the air in a neon blue outfit, or did he not bother to turn his head to see my 2,000lb car before turning left?
"In short, motorists are (collectively) creating the problem you're complaining about."
sorry bub your the minority here, as much as the start of this was a dumbass rant, you completed it with a self entitled whiny bitch fest, the real problem is that motorist are a bunch of jackass idiots, then here comes douchy mc bike acting like the road is their own personal space and how dare we invade that.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
In the city where I live I often see traffic being slowed down by cyclists who insist on cycling on the road when there is a separate cycle path less than 10 metres away, while drivers dutifully half change lanes to avoid the cyclist (thus slowing down the next lane as well) before returning to the outer lane.
Most drivers are sane and caring and really want to avoid hurting anyone, so we just put up with it. So when a car is moving along at a decent speed and for some reason a cyclist suddenly appears (such as round a turn, or when another car changes lane and reveals the cyclist in front) the surprise and fear felt by drivers is a legitimate source of stress and anxiety.
It's not about feeling entitled to own the road. It's about travelling responsibly and respectfully, whether you're in a car or on a bike.
Sometimes cyclists have no alternative - then driving on the road is perfectly understandable (and most drivers I know blame poor infrastructure).
Sometimes cyclists have excellent alternatives - then driving on the road is not appreciated (and most drivers I know blame disrespectful or unaware cyclists).
And you know what? Many of us are both cyclists and drivers, so don't polarise the discussion with "us cyclists and you drivers". Heated opinions tend to disrupt clear thinking and productive discussion.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:5, Insightful)
In the city where I live I often see traffic being slowed down by cyclists who insist on cycling on the road when there is a separate cycle path less than 10 metres away, while drivers dutifully half change lanes to avoid the cyclist (thus slowing down the next lane as well) before returning to the outer lane.
Actual cycle paths dedicated to cycling tend to be in the land of fairies and unicorns. Most of them are combined paths full of pedestrians, who don't obey any kind of traffic rules. You as the high-speed traveler is responsible for avoiding them and anyone who walks out of a door way or rounds a corner or exists a gate. Kids can suddenly do anything and it's not like crossing the street, they have no qualms running across your path. They are generally less cleaned for broken glass and other shrapnel. This constant brake and accelerate is both tiring and slow, the pedals on a bike isn't like pushing the gas pedal on a car. And every crossing street you typically have to either go up or under or wait for a chance to cross.
The people that want to use their bike for transport and exercise often feel they're just as bad a fit there as on the road. Many pedestrians complain about the "bike terror" when a bicycle zips past them at 20-30km/h, slow for a car lane but pretty fast compared to people walking at 5km/h. Just like cars often have to slow down to biking speed, well cyclists have to slow down to walk speed. On low speed roads (up to 50km/h or 30 mph) I by far prefer bike lanes. I'm not getting in the way of the cars, the pedestrians aren't getting in my way, everybody's happy. A broad road shoulder will also do, as long as it's well enough to actually cycle on. If it's full of holes and crap it's more dangerous for me having to swerve onto the road than being on the road.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:3, Insightful)
I've been on the road and what's made me want to punch some idiot cyclist isn't that he's slowed me down, it's because he's swerved out of nowhere way too close to me and almost hurting the guy scares the crap out of me.
We're the ones in the speeding tin cans that can do a LOT more damage to a cyclist than they can do to us. It's the unnecessary burst of adrenalyn a near-miss generates because some cyclists don't follow the road rules that gets some of us.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:4, Insightful)
while drivers dutifully half change lanes to avoid the cyclist (thus slowing down the next lane as well) before returning to the outer lane.
Technically in most states that cyclist is entitled to the entire lane - they've got every bit as much right to lanes as autos.
Re:Varies from about 20-30 minutes (Score:2, Insightful)
Man, what I hate most about bikers, is their "I'm going to be in front of you no matter what" mentality at stop lights. I just spent several minutes waiting for a gap in the next lane so I could pass you, the LAST thing I want is for you to just scoot beside all of the cars and get riiiiiight up to the front of the line of traffic at the red light (if you even bother to stop for it... odds are you're just going to bike on through the red if cross-traffic is clear). And oh fun, now I get to spend ANOTHER forever waiting for the other lane to completely empty so that everyone you just passed can get into the other lane to pass you AGAIN.
You want to be on the road, use the fucking road rules. Can a car pass others while waiting at a red light? Nope, so neither should you. Can a car just slowly roll through a red? Nope, so don't fucking do it.
DO NOT MAKE ME PASS YOU MORE THAN ONCE! It's for EXACTLY this reason that if I pass a biker and see a red light coming up, I'll pull up so damned close to the curb that my tires are basically touching it, PURELY so that you can't just pass me and put me behind your slow ass again. Wait in line like the rest of us. And if you just hop onto the sidewalk to pass everyone, and then onto the road again right after going across the intersection where we're stuck waiting at the red? I honestly, sincerely hope you die by being hit by a car. And not quickly... I want it to fucking hurt, and you to suffer for hours or days in absolute agony.