Minutes spent on the phone, on a typical day
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24/7 (Score:5, Funny)
I'm in tech support you insensitive clod!
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you work 24/7???
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Hey, when I unplug my TV it stops working! Nobody told me I had to keep it plugged in, I wan't to talk to a supervisor!
Voice? (Score:1)
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Women (but probably age-dependent).
With all the texting/chatting they *still* yak and yak and yak.
Re:Voice? (Score:5, Funny)
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Even as a long time IRC junkie .. I find some stuff just gets discussed better with voice.
I can say the same about meetings. Sometimes stuff can be solved using all this great collaboration software we now have, however sometimes you just need to get everyone in the same room at the same time with an old fashioned white board.
Could be a limitation of technology or the people involved.. probably a bit of both
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Could be a limitation of technology or the people involved.. probably a bit of both
Could be a limitation of technology of the people involved. Once we upgrade the people, it won't be a problem.
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Once we upgrade the people, it won't be a problem.
Ah - you're a Linux user, I see [xkcd.com]
Re:Voice? (Score:5, Interesting)
The poll says nothing about voice. "Spent on the phone" would, to me, indicate any time you use a phone, whether it's for talking, playing a game, sending pictures of yourself in ill-fitting underwear, or listening to music.
Anyhow, there's a missing option: I don't have a phone, you insensitive clod!
Getting rid of the cell phone was the second best decision I ever made in my life. The freedom of not being pestered more than makes up for inconveniences like having to use a watch and a laptop. The freedom of being unreachable is awesome.
Re:Voice? (Score:5, Insightful)
Getting rid of the cell phone was the second best decision I ever made in my life. The freedom of not being pestered more than makes up for inconveniences like having to use a watch and a laptop. The freedom of being unreachable is awesome.
I hear this a lot, and I'm always baffled by it. I have a phone. I've had it longer than most people I know. And I'm always unreachable when I want to be unreachable.
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I hear this a lot, and I'm always baffled by it. I have a phone. I've had it longer than most people I know. And I'm always unreachable when I want to be unreachable.
Your boss or marketing can't "ask" you to keep your cell phone handy over the weekend if you don't have one.
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Your boss or marketing can't "ask" you to keep your cell phone handy over the weekend if you don't have one.
My boss can "ask" whatever he wants. What I answer is up to me.
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My boss can "ask" whatever he wants. What I answer is up to me.
Yeah, but I'm not sure the absolute hardliner approach is the right one. Yes, I could insist that I never ever take/make a work call outside business hours but then I'd find it fair that they insist I never ever take /make a personal call during business hours. Same with coming in late or leaving early, if they ride a hard line on business hours then I ride a hard line on leaving on time too. Also the same with getting time off and being available to work overtime. If both sides can be flexible, then it's u
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>Yes, I could insist that I never ever take/make a work call outside business hours but then I'd find it fair that they insist I never ever take /make a personal call during business hours.
not equivalent, since a lot of business still has to happen during standard work hours
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Tell him "no". Seriously. Bosses are like kids - if you don't set boundaries they'll walk all over you.
What will you do when they give you a company phone "just for the next couple days"?
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And answering that phone outside my work hours depends on my mood and charity. The work hours is listed in the contract we signed, anything else I do is a bonus and only can be granted if it is a reasonable request and I'm in the right mood. If they want 24/7 response, that's a change to the contract and sufficient compensation will be paid for it. Life becomes more professional once you're out of your teen years and you don't do your work only for the fun of it. I still mainly work for the fun of it but I'
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I guess I never grew up. I love my job and I do it 24/7. I wouldn't mind fewer calls between 3AM and 2PM when I'm sleeping. hmmm I did take a 4 day break from the usual although I was at a conference so umm I suppose that doesn't count. lol
Yes. The conference was fun. And I work in the free software industry too. I make good money (also own the company).
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> I have a phone. I've had it longer than most people I know. And I'm always unreachable when I want to be unreachable.
Because you, unlike a lot of folks, have good boundaries.
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No, if you are chatting, gaming, whatever, you are on your handheld computer.
"On the phone" means what it always did.
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So you're not on the phone if you're not talking?
You're not in the automobile if it's not rolling either, then?
And you aren't using your TV if you use for non-televised purposes like showing a DVD or playing a game?
you may wish to re-examine you're openening sentance...
You may want to re-examine "you're openening sentance" before attempting to correct others. Just sayin'.
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My desktop computer is very similar. It can be used it as a phone too, yet I don't think anyone would classify the time spent using it browsing the web or playing games as time spent "on the phone".
I am pretty sure that even if you use it as a "phone", the people you live with will consider that time spent "on the computer".
Likewise for time spent on the phone doing web browsing or whatever - it is spent "on the phone", because we still call the device a phone.
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For the young'uns (Score:5, Funny)
A "phone" is a device that allows you to converse vocally with another person by converting vibrations from your speech into electrical impulses, transmitting them to the destination, and then reconverting them back into vibrations the human ear can understand.
You probably have one of these "phone" devices built into your texting unit.
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Oh, you mean my pocket internet thingy?
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So... it's like Skype? But a device, an entire device? Spooky.
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Re:For the young'uns (Score:4, Interesting)
Or, as James Gleick's reports in his 2011 book The Information:
In a lecture at Cambridge, the physicist James Clerk Maxwell offered
a scientific description of the telephone conversation: “The speaker talks
to the transmitter at one end of the line, and at the other end of the line the
listener puts his ear to the receiver, and hears what the speaker said. The
process in its two extreme states is so exactly similar to the old-fashioned
method of speaking and hearing that no preparatory practice is required on
the part of either operator.” He, too, had noticed its ease of use.
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That sounds like a really great invention, he should file a patent on that!
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It's almost 150 years too late for that, but there must still be room for some patent trolling.
Let's see, I've got an idea: on a mobile device! Darn, probably also too late by half a century. On the internet! A few decades late, too... I've got it: On the cloud! That's where the money is!
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Speaking... (Score:3, Informative)
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I answered "More than 120" because I thought it meant "how much time are you spending with your phone"...
Work/Personal breakdown (Score:2)
Personal is about 10 minutes or less a week. I don't enjoy talking on the phone, for the most part.
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I would shriek with joy if my help desk job involved only 15-120 minutes per day on the phone.
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yeah - I don't work help desk and still am on easily over 120 hours a day (except weekends, but I still think on average it is close). I do manage a slew of test environments, write code, test, assist noobs, attend 2 daily scrums... typical Agile programming stuff, though my job leans toward the testing/system admin side, though I would say I'm the jack-of-all-trades of the company, with a little experience practically everywhere (we need someone with automation experience - oh, I've done that! we need some
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What planet do you live on with 120h+ days? I'm going to go with mercury with 1409 hours per day. That's only about 8.5%. Not too bad.
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I'm the help desk guy. ... I don't enjoy talking on the phone...
I think I just spoke with you, dude!
Brevity... (Score:5, Interesting)
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From this I deduce you have a female wife.
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I deduced it from the facts that the feminine pronoun "her" was used and because the more effeminate member of a pair of bonded butt buddies doesn't count as a wife.
Re:Brevity... (Score:5, Funny)
--wife-tower busband 0-0-0-1-alpha with information hotel, departing work pattern
--husband 0-0-0-1-alpha report when at grocery store and purchase milk
--report at grocery store and purchase milk 0-1-alpha
Re:Brevity... (Score:5, Funny)
Save your breath. Trying to convince a woman that precision in speech is a blessing is like trying to convince a fish that something wet is, you know, that thing where.... Well, maybe not a fish. A bear! Yeah. Like trying to convince a bear that... um... honey is, uh, bad? No, wait. An eagle! but what does an eagle really like?
Hmmm. Does the woman really like long speeches? Maybe that analogy is all wrong. Maybe it's that one with the hammer and nails. How does that go? Give a man a hammer. No, that's a fishing pole.
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That milk sounds good. Can you get some for me? Oh, and a pack of cupcakes, but only if they have chocolate ones.
Or orange. Orange! I used to love the orange ones. I'd peel off the frosting in one sheet and eat it and then suck out the whipped cream....
Was that really whipped cream? I think it was something else. it was still good.
Hey! That's it!
Trying to convince a woman that precision in speech is a blessing is like trying to find out what is inside a cupcake.
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Nope, still not right. Hold on, I'll think of it.
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Where'd my ADD meds go?
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Where'd my ADD meds go?
They're in the car. Along with the analogy you're looking for.
Re:Brevity... (Score:5, Funny)
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CPDLC FTW!
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Ha. I think women believe we'll be insulted if they just come out and ask us to do something. Like we'll be thinking "All you called me for was to ask me to get milk?!?! Don't you even want me to know how your day was????"
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I'm not sure one should choose to base ones interactions with a life partner on practices from the work environment.
This could lead to bad outcomes in a variety of ways:
a) Your suggestions in the bedroom get you punitive actions from HR
b) Your suggestion about who should make dinner is met with an employment equity action from Legal
c) Your desire to watch NASCAR is veto'd by IT
etc.
I'll never lament a difference in the sexes: I don't believe in pointless efforts being worthwhile and more to the point, if it
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Playing Call of Duty or reading a book are leisure activities. We do them because it's fun. Calling someone to get milk on their way home is a utility activity. We do it because we have to. Spending less time talking on the phone means that we get more time to play Call of Duty.
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It's not an average. On a typical day, I don't even touch my phone. So, none.
almost none at all (Score:2)
My smartphone carrier is cleaning up nicely with the minimum monthly package of 450 "any time" minutes and unlimited nights/weekend minutes that they're charging me for. On a bad month (for them) I use up 15 minutes of that. Meanwhile they charge me for every SMS text (which costs them nothing), and charge me ridiculous amounts if I go over my tiny data allotment.
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No he's not.. I have a similar plan... that's the cheapest you can get if you want an iphone/android phone from att or verizon (and sprint iirc).
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Check out Ting.com. The network is Sprint and you only pay for what you use.
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I use 2.5gb/mo in data... Ting is about $5 more than what ATT charges me.
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Sounds like you are on the right plan then. tverbeek should look into Ting.
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All I'd have to do is pay an "early termination fee", buy a whole new phone, replace all of the apps on it, and convert from iTunes and iCloud. How convenient and affordable!
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You're right, now's not a good time. If you wait, things will surely get easier.
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So a little bit of fraud will solve a small part of the problem, but not the rest. Thanks for the advice.
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Show me the right one.
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Virgin Mobile. $35 a month for 300 minutes plus unlimited data/text. They throttle after 2.5gb or something similar. I use between 40 and 100 minutes a month, but a lot of data, so it's the perfect plan for me especially since I'm grandfathered in at $25/month.
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Except for a small amount of electricity, the time you spend on the phone doesn't really cost them anything. Pretty much everything in telecom is sunk costs. So it doesn't really make much of a difference to them if you, individually, use your phone a little or a lot.
Zero minutes (Score:5, Funny)
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Do you sit on work when your "on the job"?
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Do you sit on work when your "on the job"?
No, but my workstation is... (you know? A train-station is a place where trains stop... etc)
Zilch (Score:3)
On a 'typical day' I generally do not speak on the phone. When I do, it's generally work related and short. I also rarely make personal calls. E-mail is much better as I have a record of times, places, etc. to look back upon.
Also, I NEVER text - I do not see the point. I have texting turned off at the provider.
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I text when I need to make sure that someone has gotten my emails, funnily enough.
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What?
There is this concept of prior planning. Works great. Try it some time.
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Yes, I do plan in advance, not necessarily 'days' out but certainly hours. My weekends are generally booked out two months. Stuff during the week can be days or hours out. Generally all scheduled via email between the invited guests. If someone has to cancel or will be late it's via email if there is enough warning or they call if not. It's the late party who is responsible to communicate that fact. And if I am late, it works the same way: E-mail if enough warning or phone if not. My 'off-work' lif
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Amen, brother!
I hate the phone (Score:2)
I especially hated it when I had to take orders for parts at my last job, its like listen pal I am swamped, you called for a specific reason, can we stop talking about the weather in Kansas for a second and tell me what the hell you want already, it does not take a 25 min conversation to order a fucking spring.
AKA Minutes Spent in Meetings (Score:2)
5+ hours a day... (Score:1)
I'm a f@#%ing telemarketer, you insensitive clod!
*tiny fist*
Attentive boyfriend = many phone minutes (Score:2, Interesting)
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(all on a blue tooth headset for those concerned about cell phone laws or his safety)
Almost all studies on the topic indicate that a headset does not really lessen the risk involved with talking on the phone while driving. The problem is not that one of your hands is occupied with holding a phone, but that your attention is occupied with having a conversation. A blue tooth headset does not help with that.
much time on phone (Score:1)
When I traded in my first phone... (Score:1)
Replacing the Phone (Score:1)
5+ hours (Score:2)
Work from home on an online (muck based) game with a group of other coders/devs and we use ventrillo to keep up to date on who is doing what.
On a side note, phones make a great hands-free vent clinet.