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Re:summoned and let out (Score:4, Insightful)
So much easier in the UK - non of this jury selection business. As a defendant or prosecutor, you get what you're given.
Re:I Served Grand Jury..READ WATCH LEARN @ fija.or (Score:4, Insightful)
That, and the unequivocal evidence that it provides substantial benefits to the population's dental health.
Missing option ... (Score:5, Insightful)
''I was asked but wiggled out of it''
I am self employed, having to take a fortnight off — unpaid — would cost me a lot. If I had been employed my employer would have probably continued to pay me my full salary (not all employers do), but why should he shoulder the burden of supporting the legal system. The judges, barristers, ... all get paid properly so why not pay the jurors their normal salary ?
Re:judge or jury? (Score:4, Insightful)
Everybody has political affiliations.
Re:Jury trials are fundamentally flawed (Score:5, Insightful)
Jury trials are a protection against a system of corrupt judges, and against systems which otherwise inherently favor the government. In the USA, there is a flaw in that protection, because decisions can be appealed until a court without jury trails is reached.
The argument that those deciding the case need to know all the intricacies of the law is wrong. If the law is so complex that the jury can't be instructed about the law, then it's so complex that nobody can be expected to obey it. Such laws should be declared null and void by the jury.
Re:Ineligible (Score:2, Insightful)
:-) That's funny.. I was thinking more along the lines of Goldamn Sachs... Unlike some, I'm not really obsessed with OBL.. But since you brought it up, one must question the motives a person who convicts a man on pure prosecutorial hearsay and no cross examination.
Re:Ineligible (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Missing option ... (Score:5, Insightful)
... but why should he [my employer] shoulder the burden of supporting the legal system?
Gee, I don't know, maybe because the only reason he is able to continue his business is that the state guarantees the enforcement of his contracts.
Why not just go? (Score:4, Insightful)
By totally ignoring the jury process, you lose any right to complain about the choices juries make at trials.
Being a citizen of the U.S. means that you have some MORAL obligations, and one of them is to provide, from time to time, services as an intelligent jury member to help make sure the court system works as intended.
Happily not everyone is a selfish as you and so in the end the jury system worked, but if everyone thought as you do the system would collapse.
Re:Missing option ... (Score:2, Insightful)
So this employer should get double-billed? Taxes and salaries? Neat. Remind me not to move to your happy world.
Re:Please take jury duty seriously (Score:4, Insightful)
Allegations from a woman. Try from a minor.
A neighbor was a teacher and accused of molesting two kids. The cops pulled him out of a classroom and ended his career there and then.
Two different kids? You'd assume he's got to be guilty. Turns out the first kid was told to lie by his mother as revenge over bad grades his brother got. One kid wasn't enough evidence so they arrested another kid for stealing a car and told him they'd drop the charges if he chose to "help us with our inquiries." After being told the first kid's confession, he said, "Yeah, that!" to avoid a criminal record.
Took two years for this to come out. Afterwards, his original school told him there were too many concerned parents who believed there couldn't be smoke without fire and he couldn't return there - and every other school found a justification to not hire.
A pretty much broken man, he was dead five years later, still in his 50s.
Those cops knew they were building a fake second half to their case and deliberately ended his career when they arrested him in front of the kids. Given the ultimate end result, that's one step away from manslaughter to me.
In this society, sex crime allegations destroy lives. A false accusation is, in many ways, just as destructive to a life as the alleged act. False accusers should absolutely face the punishment the falsely accused was threatened with, not a slap on the wrist. Similarly, given the accused may also be the victim of what is essentially a sex related crime, the same anonymity "victims" get should be preserved for the accused until they are found guilty. Sorry if that makes convictions a little bit harder but I'd be interested to see figures for what percentage are only convicted because their alleged crimes were publicized vs. the percentage of falsely accused. Something tells me we'd have less victims this way round.