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Whatever everyone else is doing (Score:5, Insightful)
I try to hang around or slightly above (Score:4, Insightful)
I had a crapton of tickets a few years back, and it was not helping my finances
now I just let everyone else blow past me, like from a light (im not going to stop them doing 60 in a 45) or on the interstate (its rather funny to watch them all clump together and change lanes in front of each other etc while I am behind them with a wide open road for a half mile ahead)
88 mph (Score:5, Insightful)
And if I could get the flux capacitor working, I'd have the first post.
Re:Whatever everyone else is doing (Score:5, Insightful)
That's a fine thing to do. However, please do the following if you are going to go with the traffic flow.
Re:5 Over (Score:3, Insightful)
I love when people get right on my tail. Good time to test the brakes...
What I cant stand is when going 15 over and someone gets right on my tail.
Re:5 Over (Score:5, Insightful)
It's all relative, they likely can't even tell. Someday they'll realize how they negatively affect traffic, though not likely.
I really don't get the point of tailgating. If you're trying to tell me that I'm going too slow, then you need to fucking deal with the fact that if I'm going too slow, that means the car right in front of me is going too slow, as are all the cars in front of them.
Maybe a simpler way of putting it... You're driving too fast. I mean, if you want to drive too fast, that's fine, I really don't care. But if you're going to drive too fast AND be a self-centered asshole about it, I can fight fire with fire and slow down just to piss you off even more.
Not my chair, not my problem.
Re:I try to hang around or slightly above (Score:4, Insightful)
Now I just sit in the right lane, puffing my cigar, enjoying the sights at 55mph and feel sorry for all those stressed out people going 90mph who must be slaves to someone else's schedule forcing them to fly through the world rather than enjoy it.
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Re:5 Over (Score:2, Insightful)
The object is always to minimize the time in the car, it has nothing to do with being late. I could leave an hour early, I'd still drive as fast as I could without getting police attention.
If you want to drive the limit, stay in the right hand lane. If you're in the fast lane and driving the speed limit, you're begging for trouble. It's true, if anyone hits you it's the other guys fault...but it's still a shitty day for all involved.
Re:5 Over (Score:5, Insightful)
There is nobody enforcing the law, there is simply someone who is uncomfortable with a driver behind them breaking the law.
If someone is driving unsafely behind me because they're impatient, irrational, whatever, I will do what I can to make sure the situation's safety improves. If that means slowing down, then it means slowing down.
As I implied earlier, this has nothing to do with a wide open road. Sure, if you're in the fast lane and going slow, you need to GTFO. If you're in the fast lane, though, and there is traffic in front of you, there is absolutely no reason to GTFO in a more congested lane (thereby contributing to more traffic).
Habitual tailgaters deserve whatever punishment they get. If it's someone brake-tapping them or a police officer ticketing them, I could care less. If you're on my ass, you're doing so because you're a self-centered asshole that thinks the road is all yours and yours alone. I'd be perfectly happy with people like you eradicated from this world.
Re:The answer... political power. (Score:5, Insightful)
Just being unable to change a bad law does not remove one's right to complain about suffering its consequences.
Re:not fair (Score:5, Insightful)
Then you have a hard time to decide if it's just the car or if you are suffering from parkinsons.
On the other hand - don't flip off the jeep drivers because it's he that's going to pull you out of the snowdrift that you encounter around the next corner.
Re:Less than 5 over because (Score:2, Insightful)
In terms of danger to yourself and others, the difference between 70 and 75 is (counter-intuitively) much larger than the difference between 20 and 25.
Re:Less than 5 over because (Score:5, Insightful)
20 to 30mph doubles stopping distance [racemath.info] from 12m to 23m, 70 to 80 mph adds 24m (from 96m to 120m).
A limit of 20mph is probably on a residential road, where people walk and play, sometimes using bicycles or skates, where there are probably some parked cars and some trees, and many junctions.
A road with a 70mph limit is likely to be a dual carriageway (in this country, it would have to be). It's likely to have metal or concrete barriers on one or both sides of each carriageway, wide lanes, and it's unlikely to have pedestrians or cyclists.
I'd need some evidence to believe that the increase from 70-75mph is as dangerous as the one from 20-25mph.
Re:The answer... political power. (Score:5, Insightful)
If you want to "legally" exceed the speed limit, become a police officer. I regularly have them blow past me on the road at 20+ mph over the limit. No lights, no siren, just motoring along toward a donut shop.
Yet, I've never seen a police office pulled over by another and receiving a ticket.
So, logic dictates that it's legal for the law enforcement to break the law whenever it so suits them.
Re:5 Over (Score:5, Insightful)
The best you can really do is let them pass and be consoled by the fact that they were the jerk not you.
Avoiding accidents is your duty (Score:4, Insightful)
Simply, the speed limit is the speed limit. That means that if it says 70mph, then 71 is breaking the law. If somebody wants a buffer, they can go 5mph under.
I used to think like that once. Then I grew up, my age reached double digits, and I realized that laws are not meant to be black-and-white like that.
Your first duty as a driver is to avoid accidents. The highest speed at which you can drive safely can be much higher or much lower than the speed limit. The limit could be 70mph but if it's snowing you are an irresponsible idiot if you go above 30mph. On a sunny day, if you have a well-kept small and lightweight car you could be safer at 100mph than someone on a SUV would be at 60mph.
On highways traffic usually goes in "lumps", caused by a few irresponsible drivers who drive side by side slower than the average traffic. Most accidents happen in those lumps, it's much safer to drive in the gaps between them.
A driver that goes faster than the limit and does some weaving to get rid of a bunch of cars in traffic is a much, much safer driver than someone who believes he has a God-given right to drive at the speed limit without regard of what happens around him.
Re:Really five over or five over according to spee (Score:4, Insightful)
What would be the manufacturer's motivation in delivering an inaccurate speedometer?
Well, in the UK at least, that motivation could well be the law.
Also note that a speedo may be accurate and still be set to over-read, because if you tried to make it exact and it read under your actual speed you'd be in for a world of hurt in the courts if the vehicle was ever caught speeding (let alone in an accident!).
More specifically, in the UK, vehicle construction and use regulations require a vehicle speedometer accuracy to be in the range of -0->+10%. The implications are that it must never under-read - for obvious reasons - but may over-read. As the cost of manufacturing a speedometer with -0% error would be very costly they all over-read by a few percent without exception. Even if speed is measured correctly the display may not be accurate, so a speedometer error is allowed. Because of this, the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) have an official formula for calculating a speeding offence. It allows a leeway of 10% plus 2mph. In reality, most speed traps are triggered at higher speeds than this because if they were set bang-on those guidelines, the sheer amount of paperwork generated would overrun the police speeding departments.