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TiVo to Go Released
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on Mon Jan 03, 2005 07:52 AM
from the go-forth-and-experiment dept.
from the go-forth-and-experiment dept.
SimCityHippy wrote to us with the news that TiVo has TiVo To Go. Right now, the To Go feature is supported only on Windows XP & Win2k; no word on whether the feature will be rolled out to OS X or WinME. It's also interesting to note that while they recommend Windows MP, VLC gets a nod as well.
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TiVoToGo for Portables Updated 53 comments
fistfullast33l writes "In a followup to previous stories on Slashdot, IGN is reporting that TiVo has released a new version of TiVoToGo that now allows subscribers to transfer shows to portables such as the iPod, PSP, and Treo without the need for third-party software such as Videora. The upgrade costs $25 for current subscribers and includes the ability to transfer to desktop PCs as well. To recap, you can now transfer your TiVo shows to your laptop, desktop, and portable, as well as burn them to DVD. Time for me to subscribe to HBO."
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What other products have this capability? (Score:3, Interesting)
Are there any products besides the Tivo that support transfering video over the network or perhaps via firewire/usb2?
Re:What other products have this capability? (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:What other products have this capability? (Score:3, Insightful)
Not at all. Especially on Slashdot, people seem to have blinders on that TiVo == DVR. They even use TiVo as a verb. I really don't understand it either since there are other alternatives to TiVo like ReplayTV or even free ones like MythTV. Why do people so vehemently defend TiVo even when they do stupid things like announce wanting to put commercials on while you fast forward and openly oppose c
Obligatory product bashing (Score:5, Interesting)
The same goes for me I guess becuase I haven't spent any time with Myth of whatever else is out there. I just know that my Tivo works and it is simple enough for my parents to use it.
Re:Obligatory product bashing (Score:5, Informative)
Out of the box, Tivo is much nicer. After pulling hair and much fighting, MythTV is a heck of a lot nicer. There was a lot of pain to get there though, definately not for the faint of heart.
The main thing I learned in the process is don't overcomplicate. A PVR-250 is a fine card to use, the PVR-350 is just more features to pull out hair over.
TV Listings are a pain though. I have Direcway satellite as nothing else is available. The satellite receiver does some strange proxying. Because of that, my MythTV TV listings must be fetched via a ssh tunnel to a tinyproxy box at the office, otherwise it just fails.
If you have time, and patience, the MythTV solution is much more satisfying, otherwise Tivo is probably a better bet.
In our house, both are used. When Tivo finally dies though, it'll be replaced by MythTV.
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Re:Obligatory product bashing (Score:5, Informative)
I find myself hardly using the TiVo these days. I've moved all the "season pass" show schedules over to the Myth box. Originally got going with Myth because it would let me play my assortment of DivX movie files and let me record/watch tv simultaneously with a second tuner card, and the level of control linux/myth give me is keeping me on it.
One oddity - the best way to share video in multiple rooms with myth seems to be to NFS a huge volume with your recorded video. I remember Tivo's multi-room viewing gave you a combined list of programs and, when requesting one from another Tivo unit, simply downloaded the program to the one requesting the video and played it when ready. It'd be nice if I had each frontend contribute storage to the other frontends without having to build a huge storage machine and worry about it frying one night and losing all my saved programs.
Anyway.
I agree that the 350 is more needless hair-pulling for most, but if you're setting up separate backend/frontend boxen, a 350 is a nice one-card solution for watching TV on a cheap-o linux machine. Then again, so is a motherboard with on-board TV-out and ethernet.
My main concern right now (and one of the reasons I've not dumped another grand into building a nicer backend machine and some frontends around the house) is Myth is currently only useful for analog cable. The HDTV cards out there can only receive OTA signals (unencrypted) and the future of cable TV seems to be cable company-provided receivers w/ PVR capability that aren't easily controlled from a PC. Sure, there's some work being done for the firewire ports on some of the newer receivers, and you can usually get an IRblaster going or something to control the unit, but, bye-bye multiple recordings to my backend, and so on.
Myth could use some polish (I still like the satisfying little beeps and blurps when I use the Tivo) but I'm surprised at how much it does already. KnoppMyth [mysettopbox.tv] is making strides to lower the learning curve for new setups. DVD burning still takes some hard work, but it's getting easier, and MythDVD has built-in background ripping/transcoding. Cool add-ons like MythPhone and mfe are fun to play with and could become more useful soon. And the Hauppauge cards are just wonderful - kudos and much thanks to Chris Kennedy and the IvyTV community for supporting this hardware so diligently. I'll be a Myth user for a long time if I can get an acceptable HD solution working with it.
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Re:Obligatory product bashing (Score:3, Informative)
But they are getting a little to cozy with the content providers and advertisers for my taste, hence why I also use a homebrew PVR [byopvr.com] so that the "man" can't tell me how long I can keep six feet under "taped" [boingboing.net] or whether or not I can backup Sopranos to DVD.
=P
with that said, I'm eager to see how well TivoToGo works as it does address one of my major annoyances with TiVo STB (vs homebrew PVR/Myth boxen) -- content portability.
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as longas we're stcuck with stingy ISP (Score:3, Interesting)
burning to dvd... (Score:5, Interesting)
People pay big money for full seasons of thier favorite shows.
If anyone can just set their tivo, and spend 5 minutes a week burning it to dvd, the studios may take issues with that.
Re:burning to dvd... (Score:5, Insightful)
Burning to DVD is a problem for the studios? Yes. They'll certainly fight for DRM or other limitations. But why should it be this way? For years and years everyone KNEW they had a right to videotape whatever they pleased for their own personal collections. Many fans of shows videotaped every episode, and kept a complete personal archive. In what way is it different to do this with a Tivo and DVD than it is with a videotape? Hell, leave out the middleman - there are plenty of DVD recorder decks now available for consumers, and they work more or less like VCRs.
But we've gotten to a point where we assume that just because the studios have found a business model, anything that rips into it is fair game for litigation. And the studios might win such litigation. And that's just sad.
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Re:burning to dvd... (Score:3, Insightful)
the bad part is even though the entertainment industry realizes this fact, they still want to cripple any capabilites which are
Re:burning to dvd... (Score:5, Interesting)
Knew as in "this is a legal right" or "we'll just do it anyway" as is the case with current P2P networks? I'm sure you're about to quote me Sony vs Universal (aka the Betamax case), but it found that time-shifting was a fair use. It did not explicitly deal with personal libraries, but one would be a temporary copy, the other permanent. That would be an additional factor weighing against fair use, and the Betamax case was a narrow (5-4) win to begin with. In addition, timeshifting was believed to increase the market by including people who could not see it at the original broadcast time, while it is clear that creating a personal library reduces the market for selling permanent copies.
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I've had this forever (Score:4, Informative)
Sorry I always forget the regular SA Tivo's have this enabled but DirectTV wont turn these features on for people.
tivocommunity.com has plenty of links in the forums to enable features that are locked on DirectTivo's but they're not for the faint of heart.
Mac version on the way (Score:5, Informative)
Are TiVoToGo(TM) transfers available for Apple Macintosh computers? At this time TiVoToGo transfers are not available for Apple Macintosh computers. TiVo is working hard to enable TiVoToGo features available on TiVo Desktop for Mac. We are currently working on ways to enable playback on Apple Macintosh computers. We will let our customers know in our newsletter as soon as this feature is available.
So is world peace. (Score:4, Insightful)
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If they support VLC... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:If they support VLC... (Score:3, Interesting)
All I can say is SWEET!
the fine print (from tivo.com) (Score:5, Informative)
A couple of weeks?? (Score:4, Informative)
Bah software rollout!!!!! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Copying Details? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Good, but just not meant for us (Score:3, Funny)
I guess you did choose?
Re:To go? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Ok, what should I buy now... (Score:4, Interesting)
"Build MythTV box. Not gonna happen in my house, as I could never get away with having a noisy server sitting in the entertainment center..."
You don't *have* to put the "media center server" in the same room as the TV... you can use thin clients over a wired network like MediaMVP [hauppauge.com] (quasi how to "thrifty pvr" article on my site [byopvr.com])
People use modd'ed xboxes as the front end of their mythTV/other media/PVR backend.
That's just one approach... there's a couple others that are worth investigating.
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Re:Congratulations Tivo! Only took 4 years to copy (Score:4, Informative)
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