Journal FortKnox's Journal: Slashdot, 503s, devchannel, thoughts 29
All these 503s are causing people to rethink slashdot.
True, many of us can give a rats ass about the front page, and use the journals as a means of daily chat. Of course, no one wants to do the 'livejournal' thing, or outside site, because... well... we all came to slashdot for the frontpage and are comfy here.
We've tried moving to other sites... even those that were made in the community. All failed.
Hell, I just found devchannel (another OSDN site), and think it kicks the pants off of slashdot (front page). But no journals...
That got me thinking. What if a site was written with journals and messaging and zoo... that had rss feeds. You link into any site, and you get the rss feed. People choose what they want to read, and you can make 'local' comments on it, and the link to the original site is present. That way you get even more than just 'slashdot'.. you can hook into kuro5hin, fark, etc... and yet you still have the journals and everything all set up.
Of course, there are copywrite issues to deal with (can you put up RSS feeds and make local comments as long as there is a link to the original site?), but I'm kinda keen on the idea... and it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to write.
Whatcha think?
True, many of us can give a rats ass about the front page, and use the journals as a means of daily chat. Of course, no one wants to do the 'livejournal' thing, or outside site, because... well... we all came to slashdot for the frontpage and are comfy here.
We've tried moving to other sites... even those that were made in the community. All failed.
Hell, I just found devchannel (another OSDN site), and think it kicks the pants off of slashdot (front page). But no journals...
That got me thinking. What if a site was written with journals and messaging and zoo... that had rss feeds. You link into any site, and you get the rss feed. People choose what they want to read, and you can make 'local' comments on it, and the link to the original site is present. That way you get even more than just 'slashdot'.. you can hook into kuro5hin, fark, etc... and yet you still have the journals and everything all set up.
Of course, there are copywrite issues to deal with (can you put up RSS feeds and make local comments as long as there is a link to the original site?), but I'm kinda keen on the idea... and it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to write.
Whatcha think?
Comments (Score:2)
Re:Comments (Score:3, Insightful)
It's not a legal problem, it's a "being a decent member of the community" problem. Nobody wants to run a site with ads only to have people bypass their interface and slurp their content. If you start interfacing to Slashdot and other systems through a centralized hub, you'll constantly be battling with the various site ownwers to keep access. IP bans, e-mail bans, etc. will be a constant hassle.
Re:Comments (Score:2)
I think the thing that MIGHT make it work... (Score:3, Interesting)
I'd also like the ability to have "best friends" which would be people you want to see when they post any comment, not just one in your journal. I can't tell you how many times I've gone back to reread someone's JE and seen a great late entry by Sam or Blinder or MekkaB.
I resent that! (Score:2)
('cept when I'm late!)
Re:I think the thing that MIGHT make it work... (Score:2)
There's no reason that you wouldn't be able to take plain text locally, feed it to the sanitizing script for formatting (as if it were a textified journal) and then use putslash to send it to the hub. With a friendlier interface (web-based, presumably), the sanitizer and putslash scripts from this thing could already function as reply handlers. Then, you just need the actual hub to collect the information from each site and send it out via RSS.
Re:I think the thing that MIGHT make it work... (Score:2)
Yeah, that would be pretty slick...
...that way all my freaks can continue to avoid me. ;-)
Seriously, though, copying over zoo settings and JEs would rawk.
I can't tell you how many times I've gone back to reread someone's JE and seen a great late entry by Sam or Blinder or MekkaB.
What? You don't come back for my posts? *melodramatic sob*
Cheers,
Ethelred
Re:I think the thing that MIGHT make it work... (Score:2)
So, if want a restraining order you need to call Boo's mom and maybe you guys can get a volume discount or something. ;-)
some ideas (Score:2)
Personally, I'm almost to the point where I'm looking to move from /. or at least post somewhere else simultaneously because of the lack of decent RSS.
That might (Score:1)
OK I give up... what are 503s (Score:2)
Re:OK I give up... what are 503s (Score:2)
Hmm... (Score:2)
Sounds good to me.
Exactly (Score:2)
I think you should write it. (Score:3, Interesting)
write it, start out small but make it flexible* (such a simple design idea... yet so difficult to pull off!), host it, and I'll kick in a few bucks. Yep. I just said the "money" word.
Everything is a fucking news aggregate of everything else (Washington Post -=> Obscurestore -=> Slashdot. Seriously. )
So allow for feeds. Allow for Journals. Allow for personal news reports (not exactly journals, but re-posts of news feeds. Someone may find some stimulation material on Al-jazeera. Someone else may not care, but they may want to hear more stories of the poster-person's crazy cats. Allow me to distinguish).
write it, site it, and roll it. We'll spread the word. Metafilter and k5 and slashdot are for fucking lamers. Blogging is stupid. Beat them all. CONQUER TEH WERLD!
Mod Parent Up. (Score:3, Funny)
(j/k! Sorry... I've been up since 4 am.)
Thinking off and on (Score:3, Interesting)
Basically the system is designed as a single MDB (message driven bean) and a companion SSB (stateless session bean) and using something like the Bridge pattern. The beans accept "events" (xml chunks) and load "plugins" which are just java classes implementing an "event interface."
So you can handle async and syncro events using essentially the same thing.
The front end is basically an apache-soap deal through tomcat (I use jboss as my container) so the client could be php, cf, java, whatever.
Also, the chatter about "importing" stuff from here... I found this [freshmeat.net] yesterday on freshmeat. never used it, just thought it looked interesting, like using it to do more "intelligent" scrapes from
I dunno, the thing I've been working works pretty well, whenever i need to add functionality, i just another java class and put it somewhere on the classpath and bam, the system is ready.
The xml chunks are pretty simple... they just contain key/value pairs and also have knowledge of who/what their processor is (via a fully qualified class name).
Yeah, nothing earth-shatteringly original, but it does the job and gets around the problem of "hacking" in fixes, upgrades and enhancements.
Slashcode. (Score:3, Interesting)
The Mad Poster's code can rip all historical data from journals.
We are familiar with the current system.
All of our friends lists can be brought over.
Essentially it would be a mass migration. Fix/disable/change the moderation system and most problems would go away. Heck, you could provide a way from the new site to import all of your old stuff. The trick would be to prevent a person from importing another person and impersonating them. Perhaps have them post a JE with a particular non-repeating code to authorize the creation and importation of all user data.
Unfortunately I have no real cash to offer, just the classic computer geek stuff. Good luck.
Re:Slashcode. (Score:2)
Is this possible?
jason
Re:Slashcode. (Score:2)
Re:Slashcode. (Score:2)
Re:Slashcode. (Score:2)
Re:Slashcode. (Score:2)
Famous last words! Didn't Netscape do this? Who? Netscape? The guys who used to own the browser world until the fucked themselves?
My technical skills aren't going to be of help... (Score:2)
You have my sword.
Let's do it (Score:2)
We could always do something crazy like have a /. programming contest. Proof of concept and most votes wins.
Re:Let's do it (Score:2)
Yeah (Score:2)
I had an idea (Score:2)
This sounds a lot like a blog aggregator (Score:2)
Anyway, another site would be cool as well, but it would need some kind of "draw". I remember back when we did marotti.com, and it was cool, but kinda slow. I liked the idea and I think it could happen again