Journal FortKnox's Journal: IT Flirting 61
New chica got her cube right across from mine (our backs are to each other, but its open with a tiny 1-person hallway between us). She's pretty attractive and entirely single. Now I'm witnessing all the single guys come in to see how she is doing (her second week), and trying very hard to flirt.
What a bunch of pathetic dimwits. The flirting is ATROCIOUS! I know its IT and we're all selfconsious nerds, but come on!! I'm not a playah or anything, but compaired to these guys, I'm Don Juan! The fake laughing, the 'trying too hard'... its really starting to annoy the heck outta me.
For those that need pointers (like I said, I'm no romantic or anything), just be yourself, carry on a conversation, make eye contact, and don't try to hard. If it doesn't happen, that's good... you should have an idea of the type of women that are compatible with you and which aren't. You want to be a bf to the ones that are... trust me ;-)
Anyone else had similar stories? What about questions if you feel like you are the anti-donjuan? I'm sure bethanie and the other chicas will help answer.
What a bunch of pathetic dimwits. The flirting is ATROCIOUS! I know its IT and we're all selfconsious nerds, but come on!! I'm not a playah or anything, but compaired to these guys, I'm Don Juan! The fake laughing, the 'trying too hard'... its really starting to annoy the heck outta me.
For those that need pointers (like I said, I'm no romantic or anything), just be yourself, carry on a conversation, make eye contact, and don't try to hard. If it doesn't happen, that's good... you should have an idea of the type of women that are compatible with you and which aren't. You want to be a bf to the ones that are... trust me
Anyone else had similar stories? What about questions if you feel like you are the anti-donjuan? I'm sure bethanie and the other chicas will help answer.
Dont Ask!! (Score:1)
That's not to be saying that I haven't seen some really pathetic flirting attempts, but I'm not Don Juan either
Re:Dont Ask!! (Score:1)
Follow these simple steps, playah! :) (Score:2, Funny)
"How can you stand all that pathetic flirting?"
laugh "Yeah, it is sad!"
"Wanna fuck?"
???
Unemployment!
Re:Follow these simple steps, playah! :) (Score:2)
Thanks, bud! That felt *really* good!!
Single and proud (Score:2)
Actually, I'm told often that I'm not a bad looking guy, but I don't feel that way. I am conciously single[1] because I've only ever found that one woman that ever made me want to change my daily routines and stuff to include her. She's gone.
I have TONS of female friends, many in the "DAAAAAMN!" catagory. When we go out drinking, I'm always the one that gets to take them home or pretend to be their boyfriends when the obnoxios "frat boy", "playa", or such won't leave
Re:Single and proud (Score:1)
I was one of those for a while. Didn't like it, changed into a nice asshole. You know the type.
Yep. Worked like a champ.
BTW, I'm not knocking you Ab, nothing wrong with being the safe guy.
Re:Single and proud (Score:1)
Re:Single and proud (Score:1)
I was a "safe guy" about 1.5 years ago. I liked the woman and finally said that it was tantamount to torture going out with her all the time knowing that she was off limits and that being "just friends" was not for me. A week later she called asking me out. She's heavily into her career, as am I. We aren't "going out", per se, but when there's a pseudo-date to be had it's usually the two of us. We aren't clutchy or clingy and aren't looking for a permanent thing at the moment.
There's nothing wrong with bei
Re:Single and proud (Score:2)
Re:Single and proud (Score:2)
Re:Single and proud (Score:1)
Yeah... but then that's lying to her. So if things worked out in the long run I'd have that guilt knowing that it was all built on a foundation of lies. I sleep better being brutally honest (even if that means getting my face slapped or pepper sprayed
Re:Single and proud (Score:2)
Re:Single and proud (Score:1)
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Re:Single and proud (Score:2)
Re:Single and proud (Score:2)
*Raises hand*
(sigh... that was obligatory, not an actual opinion... darn it all.)
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Re:Single and proud (Score:2)
I guess I'm only really called an asshole sometimes though. I know I don't feel like one and I know I have many very good friends. I think the label comes from the fa
Another one (Score:2)
I think the eworst part is that it pisses me off to see
Re:Another one (Score:1)
Re:Another one (Score:2)
Some girls just wanna date assholes I suppose.
Re:Another one (Score:2)
Lies Work (Score:2)
Women don't want an honest guy. If guys were honest with women, the damn species wouldn't stand a chance.
I was kind of dumbfounded the first time my girlfriend basically said "I don't want honesty, I want you to say things that make me feel good, even if they are lies". Pathetic as it may be, my friends, that's just how it works. Honesty will get you good friends and whatnot, but, unless you're the .01% of males out there who do actually happen to be perfect, you're not going to get a girlfriend being hone
Re:Lies Work (Score:1)
Re:Lies Work (Score:1)
in a way, honesty can be bad, but i think
Re:Lies Work (Score:2)
I'm honest to a fault, and I'd actually go and rat myself out if I ended up doing something stupid. It helps that the chances of such are incredibly low, but I'd do it anyway. The only catch... I expect the same. To me honesty means being forthcoming and not lying. I
Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
1. Confident
2. Affected by the girl. What that means is that when she dresses up, they notice. They compliment. They look at her like she's desirable, and by doing so, they make her feel desirable.
Chicks don't want to be lied to. What they want is someone who says all that crap and means it. Yeah I know, we're not the brightest when it comes
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
It makes perfect sense, but you're probably one of those nice, sensible women who avoid the eye contact nice guys try to make before initiating conversation. The assholes don't care if you want to talk. They're playing percentages. Nine outta ten times, their cheesy lines get the shit slapped outta them, but that tenth time -- that's magic.
The nice guys try to make eye contact to look for signs of interest. Avoidance of eye contact means you're not interested. Maybe you're
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
There's a "comedian" here in Australia called Kevin Bloody Wilson. He sings songs - sometimes parodies of well known songs, sometimes completely his own work. Some are borderline crude, the rest go WAY over the crudity line. In the right context, his stuff is magic though. (ie, when you are well and truly smashed and with a bunch of friends is a good context for his stuff.)
Anyway, one of his song
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:1)
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Ahh the joys of international communication.
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
I hate this. hate it hate it hate it. Guy thinks girl is cute, desperately looks for any sign that they have a chance. If they feel that there is any chance that she could be suckered into feeling sorry for them enough to say yes for a date, they cautiously set in to see how far they can go before the inevitable rejection comes down.
Screw that! I don't want them to evaluate me t
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
I wouldn't interpret that behavior the way you are. Their opinion of you isn't being lowered... It's being raised. I can tell you those guys are just as afraid, if not MORE afraid, because of that... But instead of you just being a pretty face, you're now an interesting person, as well. You haven't lost stature, you've gained it.
I suppose I can't talk for all guys, either... But that's the way I am, and I don't think I'm that different from othe
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Well, you certainly seem interesting to me. :)
Candid is good. I decided a long time ago that I'll discuss just about anything that isn't private to someone else (like, I wouldn't explain a friend's medical condition (if he had one), for example). But anything about me is OK. I suppose that could disturb people, but I tend to find the conversations are interesting. (heh... see my last journal entry for an example. :)
Zir
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
*Ring Ring*
"Hello?"
"Yeah, is Chris there?"
"Uh... could you be more specific?"
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
*rant on*
If they feel that there is any chance that she could be suckered into feeling sorry for them enough to say yes for a date, they cautiously set in to see how far they can go before the inevitable rejection comes down.
If I try to make eye contact with you, it is not to try to make you feel sorry for me. I'm deciding if you're friendly enou
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Women still seem to be 'taught' not to be forward. It's a hard thing to get over. Because it's not a fact to dispute, it's ingrained.
Example: I was brought up Roman Catholic (if you sin, regret it for the rest of your life). I'm now a Discordian (bring chaos to the world, and do what you want as long as you don't cause harm). I still feel guilt for some things that I know I shouldn't. I know I should release emotions sometimes... yet even if I get drunk, I'm still
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Candor is precisely what I want. I'm not personally insulted, but I think your attitude toward those guys is terribly insulting. I've been a geek since long before anyone thought it was cool. I've hung around nerds and geeks of all sorts most of my life, and I've never known any guy, no matter how uncool and unlikely to "score", who would knowingly accept a pity date. I suppose they exist, but I think you're projecting a hel
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Shy geeks, we see you. We see you look, we see you freak out, and then we see you never show an interest again.
We also see you look clueless when we hit you with large flirty bricks, so we give up.
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:1)
i'm glad i did. but now that i've figured it out, i'm married and don't need to learn how to meet members of the opposite sex anymore.
i used to wonder how things might have turned out if i'd ever caught on that some of the girls i have been interested in actually felt the s
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
Why don't women ask guys out? It's been 40 or so years that it's been acceptable. Pretty much all women in my dateable range (I'm 29) had to be brought up in this time frame.
I think guys have always been this way. The nice guys are (essentially) too afraid of women to ask. I know I am (I'll leave the 'naughty or nice' determination for people without blatent self interest in the decision. :). If women want a nice guy, why not ask
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
I don't know why - but when I was younger I did it too. I remember going to an alternative bar with my girlfriends every weekend when I was 19-20, and desperately hoping that somebody would see me, that somebody would notice me and think how sad I looked, and see something there that made them want to make contact. I was so lonely it was unspeakable. But that wasn't enough to make me look through the room and decide who I th
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
That's kind of what I was getting at. You did this, and you projected your own feelings onto guys who may not have felt anything of the sort, to your own detriment.
Re:Lies work better than nothing, anyways (Score:2)
I think that perhaps you have judged just a little bit too much of my personality from a single post.
Jeez.
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Re:Can't flirt for the life of me. (Score:2)
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Unorthodox defense (Score:2)
Buddy of mine found a good way to drive off the boneheads that would collect in the aisleway. I don't recommend this particular approach, but it has worked for him.
My friend had a problem with one person in particular that would stand just outside of his cube, flirting with some chick close by, and he decided the path to glory was to gas them away. He took to eating beef ramen noodles and greasy breakfasts. After one "incident" all he has had to do was merely mention the "incident" again and the offender
Re:Unorthodox defense (Score:2)
Re:Unorthodox defense (Score:1)
Yeah, unfortunately it is difficult to isolate a target when using such tactics... ;-) Also, I suspect it would have a detrimental effect on social contacts.
Re:Unorthodox defense (Score:2)
Damn I loved that movie.
Re:Unorthodox defense (Score:2)
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines!
Once you can balance a tackhammer on your head, you can head a balanced attack! Why am I wearing watermellons on my feet? I don't remember saying to do that.
What's his power? He's terribly mysterious!
I could quote them all day!
Re:Unorthodox defense (Score:2)
To learn my teachings, I must first teach you how to learn.
We struck down evil with the mighty sword of teamwork and the hammer of not bickering.
but we're geeks (some of us) (Score:2)
for some of us its really hard to carry on a conversation. some women have heard so much bull that at first its up to the guy to be witty or interesting. girls can be on the fence about a guy until he wins them over, can't they?
My take... (Score:2)
I usually stay away. Not like take detours around them stay away. But I make sure that I'm not part of that crowd of morons and creeps who flock around the new chick. I'm polite and I'm helpful, I just don't treat them any different from anyone else. And because I am the only one who's not obviously out to get into their pants it means that they feel they can relax easier around me. End result: They come to me with questions or simple smalltalk, on their terms and at their leisure.
Unfortunelately I'm much
Flirting. (Score:2)