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The way I see it O'Reilly is a right wing propaganda machine that seldom gets his facts right and shows less tolerance for people who disagree with him with each passing day. That is a compliment in comparison to most other radio & TV hosts from that part of the American political spectrum.
By comparison Colbert is (to paraphrase the actor's description) a "poorly informed idiot". More so, he's an act that parodies the conservative stance by taking their most extreme viewpoints and then - by intent or otherwise - showing how they fall apart.

Conservatives can laugh at Colbert's parody of O'Reilly, because Bill is rather a pompous ass. They can also laugh at Colbert because the character, while not entirely bereft of truthiness, doesn't really relate to actual people. Stephen Colbert is admired for his craft at playing the role, as much as for the role itself.
If you think Colbert is somehow representative, then I submit you've veered into some heavy stereotyping. And it happens. But the irony is that we have a group of people today in the media, in academia, in government that seem to be every bit as illiberal as the barbarism they decry.



And speaking of barbarism:

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  • Whenever I hear this, I know that I can safely ignore the rest of the comment, because it's already wrong. O'Reilly is all over the place.
  • Conservatives can laugh at Colbert's parody of O'Reilly, because Bill is rather a pompous ass. They can also laugh at Colbert because the character, while not entirely bereft of truthiness, doesn't really relate to actual people. Stephen Colbert is admired for his craft at playing the role, as much as for the role itself.

    And non-conservatives find Colbert funny in part because of the number of conservatives who exhibit the same type of behavior without any sense of how it diminishes their argument. Colbert is the liberal caricature of a conservative in how he doesn't actually know what he's talking about but attempts to make up for lack of knowledge with enthusiasm and dedication to the cause.

    If you think Colbert is somehow representative, then I submit you've veered into some heavy stereotyping. And it happens. But the irony is that we have a group of people today in the media, in academia, in government that seem to be every bit as illiberal as the barbarism they decry.

    Representative? No. Not all conservatives are misinformed overly enthusiastic egomaniac buffoons. However one of his acts is how

    • However one of his acts is how he tries to shoehorn all liberals into one single corral, which is a behavior that is endorsed by the conservative movement at an alarming rate.

      Fortunately for the Left, no Lefties EVER do that, either. [rolls eyes]

      This is, though, a site ran by a company. I'm pretty sure they have the right to restrict postings in whatever way they see fit.

      Oh, clearly. It's also pretty stupid to limit regular commenting, while still allowing JE posting. If they are not getting the traffic they would like to on this site, one might venture that a more coherent user experience would be a great place to start.

      • However one of his acts is how he tries to shoehorn all liberals into one single corral, which is a behavior that is endorsed by the conservative movement at an alarming rate.

        Fortunately for the Left, no Lefties EVER do that, either. [rolls eyes]

        I don't believe I said it was a one-way street, I merely said there is one section that seems to embrace the idea with more enthusiasm when rallying their own corps.

        This is, though, a site ran by a company. I'm pretty sure they have the right to restrict postings in whatever way they see fit.

        Oh, clearly. It's also pretty stupid to limit regular commenting, while still allowing JE posting.

        I've often wondered what the logic (if any) was to allowing unlimited JE posts from all users, all the time - especially when some users have commenting restricted. The best I can figure is that they realize very few people read the JEs, so the excess noise there is not a huge problem.

        If they are not getting the traffic they would like to on this site, one might venture that a more coherent user experience would be a great place to start.

        I'm not sure that coherence or logic have been goals here

        • I merely said there is one section that seems to embrace the idea with more enthusiasm when rallying their own corps

          And others pay for busloads of paid astroturfers to staff the Potemkin protests.

          The best I can figure is that they realize very few people read the JEs, so the excess noise there is not a huge problem.

          Whereas I hardly read the front page.

          Strangely enough, the "new" mobile site is slowly becoming usable. Unfortunately that whole coherence bit is not considered important there, either and URLs from the regular (non-mobile) site often don't carry over (they are far more different than just "www" vs "m.") and mobile URLs pretty well never carry over to the main site.

          One could change the user agent to get the mobile experience.
          The big deal with /. is that it predates all of the better libraries/frameworks. So whatever they cranked out in a 0230 caffeine haze is what we get. Trying to find JEs and comments is extremely tedious.

  • But O'Reilly is a parody to begin with, and Colbert is a parody of a parody.
    • Paid actors all. The sponsors are pleased. What else is there to discuss, aside from our most recent medical procedure, and maybe the weather (not climate!)?

      • What's worth discussing is why, despite the clamor for less tool-ish media, the act of starting up alternative outlets seems so hard.
        Is this
        (a) a simple market failure,
        (b) a case of regulation in general crushing innovation,
        (c) exacerbated by the shifts in technology that make the business plan really hard to implement, somehow?

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