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  • Why should the Pentagon [reuters.com] have all the fun?

    • Comparable efforts, overall.
      • No effort required. People are marking their territory and protecting their turf. It's a perfectly natural reaction to one's environment. It really is automatic, unconscious, instinctive. Don't read anything into it. And definitely don't single anyone out, unless you're just trolling your buddy there, as he is you...

        • The point that I hope you'll arrive at is the wall where Checkov's Gun [wikipedia.org] hangs: those "people are marking their territory and protecting their turf" only because there is no pruning function in our system. This is because Wilson removed it. When you get even a ham-fisted approximation of one, e.g. sequestration, the howls of agony from homo bureaucratus are far beyond exquisite. We need more of such.
          • This is because Wilson removed it.

            OMG! LOL! Oh muurrrrderrr! You are tho thilly!

            What's this about a meltdown?

            • The last 5 years? The lack of any hope of significant improvement in the next 3?
              • What about the last 5 years? The only thing different is that we are further down the same road we've been on since the beginning of time. We, including the high-priests of your favorite affiliation, are on biology's autopilot, so the next 3 or the next 3000 should actually look familiar as they roll by. Domination is hard wired.

                • we are further down the same road we've been on since the beginning of time

                  Doesn't even make sense. "We" are born and die as individuals, and I've been around just over two score years.
                  Kinda revelatory about the clutter in your thinking, though.

                  • "We" are born and die as individuals...

                    Yeah yeah, so is every bacteria in your gut. Being the dominant species has made you presumptuous and arrogant. You deny that which has created you and makes you what you are. Indeed, you are denying god.

                    • Your idea only makes sense if there is no distinction between "organism" and "individual", where we take "individual" to mean, e.g. "having a slashdot login".

                      has made you presumptuous and arrogant

                      In what broader context? Are you not in hyper-materialist mode this week?

                      You deny that which has created you and makes you what you are. Indeed, you are denying god.

                      In the theological sense of being a sinner, sure. Are you seriously stepping into a Christian context? Welcome! C'mon in: the Water of Life quenches that thirst.

                    • The Christian context is political.

                    • Your statement's an oxymoron.
                    • Not at all. Christianity (and including all the others, not singling anyone out), is an institution of man. And all of man's institutions are political, motivated by the same instincts that motivate everything else, acting in their own best interests. That is nature.

                    • Faith is between the individual and the Almighty. Efforts to conflate Christianity and politics, with which history is replete, are just false. Accept no cheap, human substitutes.
                    • Yes, faith is personal. The damn evangelists should learn to keep it that way.

                      Efforts to conflate Christianity and politics, with which history is replete, are just false.

                      You are wrong. History is replete because it is correct. It is pure politics, is are all organized religions. They are a business, with Wall Street investments, and government lobbyists.

                    • Alas, the wrong ones are you, and those who've distorted the faith. Lord have mercy on all of you.
                    • The church will become apolitical when man does, not a minute before. Only those with a vested interest carry a distorted view of faith.

                    • The church is peripheral to the central question of faith. Making the church central immediately slips into idolatry.
  • I'd say that is the ideal situation. The methodology of Obamacare is that you are forced to buy a product. Identity thieves buy the product for you, and get a bonus from the insurance company for signing you up. A win-win-lose out of a system that was previously lose-lose.

    • Two wrongs don't make a right, for all two Wrights did make an airplane.
      • Correct, but at least you can make the wrong slightly more convenient. If you're going to force me to buy a product that I neither want nor need, the least you can do is pick it out for me, purchase it for me, and just let me deal with the bill.

        One of my biggest objections to Obamacare as it has been implemented in Oregon so far, is I don't have 164 hours of my life to give away to downloading a 19 page PDF, to print out, fill out, send in, get the wrong one back, get my identity stolen by the prison inmat

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