Journal HanzoSan's Journal: No Child Left Behind is a sham! 12
President Bush talks a good talk about "No Child Left Behind", however he actually cut funding education funding.
Currentlly about 50% of students graduate with a highschool diploma and the other 50% drops out. This means 1 out of every two of your classmates (if you are a highschool student) will drop out.
Tell me, where did Bush come up with the name "no child left behind" when his plan actually is to increase demands on students. More standardized tests, higher stakes test, so for Bush the solution to the problem is to simply make more people drop out by increasing the filtering when currently only 50% actually graduate.
So whats the goal? To have 25% graduate highschool? I understand the point of view of those who have graduated and who are getting a degree, why not make it harder for kids coming up today, I mean if we dont well then we will all have degrees and the job market will be too competitive right?
Well they arent thinking of the effects of this. What are the other 50% supposed to do with their lives? Work at McDonalds? Ever wonder why so many kids sell drugs, use drugs, and generally act stupid? Maybe because theres no jobs BUT McDonalds.
Maybe the name of the No Child Left Behind act should be renamed to the Education Reform and Refinement Filtering act.
Now, alot of people who support this act will mention school vouchers. I'm against school vouchers, and not because the idea is a bad one, but because its corporate welfare. Private schools should not recieve public funds. Instead Public funds should be used to build charter schools which will be public funded schools which operate like private schools. This is the kind of school I graduated from, so why do we need school vouchers when we have ways of doing the same thing with public schools?
"By Jessica Brice
ASSOCIATED PRESS
September 30, 2002
SACRAMENTO - More than half of the high school students who took the
state's high school graduation test this spring failed its math and
English sections, meaning they will have to retake the test or they
won't receive a high school diploma.
California students, beginning with the class of 2004, must pass the
California High School Exit Examination to graduate. Students who don't
pass will have seven chances to retake the test.
"
That is the results of the no child left behind act. Seems to me even more are left behind, out of the 50% who actually dont drop out and make it through their senior year, now 50% of those seniors wont graduate.
So 25% get to graduate?
In some places the highschool graduation rate is as low as 25% right now.
"In Cleveland, just 28 percent of the class of 1998 earned a diploma. A stunningly low 23 percent of white students graduated -- far lower than any other district studied -- while 26 percent of Latinos and 29 percent of blacks graduated."
Required degrees? (Score:2)
Re:Required degrees? (Score:1)
Some schools dont actually teach. I've been to schools like this, I've actually dropped out and went back to school so I know why people drop out. Its not because the person is lazy, or because "school sucks", its because the teachers dont care if the graduate and so the teachers literally set them up to drop out.
Moo (Score:2)
However, before a discussion on what a good program about schooling is, the purpose of schooling must be defined.
Many think of school as a time to learn certain things, that everyone must know. That is mostly the Republican approach (also best for SJs, Guardians). Others think that school is to give each kid what they need to survive in the real world, that is mostly the Democrat's approach (also best for SPs, Artisans). Still, others think it is to give each child a chance, and to teac
Re:Moo (Score:1)
give knowledge to children so they can build on that and amass more knowledge,
I agree with Basic Knowledge which can be built upon. Problem is Bush does not give a damn about education, sure other republicans might, but Bush does not give a damn.
He cut funding for Education.
I'm against tests, I see no point in tests, whats the purpose of a test? Why not just review their work?
Re:Moo (Score:2)
Problem is, that NT style. And NTs make up only a measely 6% of the population.
Problem is Bush does not give a damn about education, sure other republicans might, but Bush does not give a damn.
I disagree. Standardized testing and cut funding is an excellent way to give a boost to education. The amount of money spent of education now is prepostorous, and shows no signs of helping. Parochial schools, for example, spend much less per student, and overa
Re:Moo (Score:1)
What the hell are you thinking?
How can increased competition help kids learn?
How can you help kids be smarter by spending less money? How can tests help, give me examples.
By spending less, and having standardized testing, teachers will be forced to teach, and those who don't will be weeded out of the system.
Why would teachers be forced to teach? Teachers dont have to pass these tests students do.
Filtering students does not help them learn, filtering teachers filters out the good and bad because tes
Re:Moo (Score:1)
There are many styles of teaching. Some will work, some won't. Some teach more, some teach less. There is risk and change, and many resist change. Thus, alternative styles of teaching are many times not used.
If there was a competitive aspect to teaching, each school could develop its own style. And, if the style does not work, new things will have to be tried, so they don't lose students, and their jobs.
I would say, that unless we get a bunch of altruistic t
Re:Moo (Score:1)
I dont care if teachers teach, all that matters is if students learn.
If all students pass standardized tests, the teacher has obviously gotten the students to know their stuff. If all fail, the teacher has done little. Thus, a percentage of pass/fail (and reliance on earlier student performance) can easily be used to test a teachers capacity to teach.
Tests prevent students from learning anything useful, all they learn is how to pass the test.
If a teacher makes up their own tests, the students are gra
Re:Moo (Score:2)
True. But in general, students learning, requires teachers to teach. The more cream in the cookie tastes good, but on its own, it's rather horrid.
Tests prevent students from learning anything useful, all they learn is how to pass the test.
Most of school is memorization. Ergo, learning how to pass the test *is* learning something useful.
You need more than just tests to see if someone is learning, you need something more than a stati
Re:Moo (Score:1)
True. But in general, students learning, requires teachers to teach. The more cream in the cookie tastes good, but on its own, it's rather horrid.
I see you didnt go to public schools, anyone who graduated did so because they learned to teach themselves. You wont learn if you expect a teacher to teach you and you go to a public school.
Most of school is memorization. Ergo, learning how to pass the test *is* learning something useful.
Thats not very useful at all, the best thing I got out of school is
Re:Moo (Score:2)
Perhaps another day.
Ummm (Score:2)