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"The UN is using climate change as a tool not an issue" More

"The UN is using climate change as a tool not an issue"

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  • "Green on the outside, Red on the inside."

    I see belief in Global Warming going the way of belief that there's no Liberal bias in the media.

    • "But even if we're wrong, shouldn't we do SOMETHING??? After all, It's for the Children!!"

      It's getting hard to tell the difference between liberal idiocy and parody.

      Like the twitter meme that went around -- "Rape last minutes, death lasts forever. You don't need a gun."

      Sadly, that bit of unbridled stupidity appears to be legit and not a parody.

      • "But even if we're wrong, shouldn't we do SOMETHING???..."

        Yeah, I remember hearing that after 9/11. Seems to be a common theme for many things.

        • Problem is after 9/11 we didn't do enough. When US Intelligence was pretty sure bin Laden was at Tora Bora, we should have dropped a nuke. The reason ISIS and other assholes are emboldened is because we didn't do enough after 9/11. We abandoned Iraq, retreated in Afghanistan... now look.

          I never had a problem kicking Taliban or Hussein ass, I had a problem with the whole Nation Building. Fuck that. Nuke 'em, and if the roaches take over and turn it into another terrorist sandbox nuke them too.

          So then whe

          • It's interesting, but it's really Social Conservatives fault. The gay issue was the pivotal turning point, that's changed the course of America. A generation has been told that Conservatives hate certain peoples, but some of those people are one's friends, so even if they have some conception that the Left is making it very hard for them financially, they know for social reasons they could never vote anything but D, and besides, if the D's are on their side on the social issues, the D's economic plans are

            • I disagree -- the fault is both with the media dominance and liberal hive mind mentality.

              Any speech the left doesn't like is "hate" speech. And almost amazingly, they (the Left) gets to define what "hate" speech is. How convenient.

              Brendan Eich was forced out at Mozilla because he donated money to a group that thinks we shouldn't redefine an institution (marriage) that's been around for millenia.

              Thus, the left goes off on the mob mentality and their two minutes of hate, and the message is sent loud an

              • I disagree -- the fault is both with the media dominance and liberal hive mind mentality.

                But the Left is losing on the Global Warming angle, even with the two aces in their pocket you mentioned. I think the two (I forgot about one before) issues of our time that are cementing the Left's power from here on out in this country, that they couldn't achieve it on with other issues, is the gay issue and the drugs issue.

                Because the Left is tolerant of particularly those two, the level of viciousness of their intolerance of countless other things is overlooked, and the lack of an economic recovery (an

                • Karl Marx wanted to promote homosexuality as an "alternate lifestyle choice" for one reason and one reason only: He wanted to undermine and destroy the Catholic Church, which he saw as the only real obstacle to building his utopian socialist hell-hole. He wanted, as did / do Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Roosevelt, Wilson, Obama, Clinton -- people using their religious fervor in pursuit of the State, not in pursuit of heaven.

                  And right now, his side is winning.

                  Look at the increasing number of sola scriptur

          • Yeah, I guess making sure you have the right guy before attacking is just not that important as long as something is done. Your brief 'history' lesson of the last twenty years is fascinating stuff, ripped right from the headlines themselves. And the tough guy thing, well, who can top that? :-)

      • Yes we should. We should adapt our lifestyles to *local* conditions, where possible. That means diversifying our culture by geographical regions, and gasp, paying attention to natural weather sources and barriers.

        • I'd be interested in your elaboration on this. (I'm of course for being good stewards of what we were given dominion over. Within reason. And with the understanding that, among all the Creation, there is by design a two-class system.)

          • I'm not sure that there is a two class system by design. That is certainly true for desert societies, but come cultures are MUCH more complex than two. Even Marx's comrades were three classes, also in Brave New World.

            I'm for distributed sustainable energy budgets for high tech cultures. That means your energy budget depends on the climate you find yourself in, and is somewhat outside of your control. Cheap fossil fuels are nice for a time, but their regeneration cycle is too long to be sustainable over

            • (Just a meta-comment, that I really had nothing to add so didn't respond, but I did read and process what you wrote, and didn't ask for elaboration and then just ignore it.

              And surprising to hear you sound so strongly libertarian in your other reply (under your Net Neutrality JE)!)

              • I fully comprehend the positive concept behind libertarian thinking, even if I have become almost as disillusioned with liberty as I am with Marxism.

                The one point that libertarians and distributists agree on is that more competition is always good; Net Neutrality, by forcing an even playing field for all bits/second, fosters a truly free market in cyberspace where the cost of participation is and should be low. If we're going to live in a capitalistic society, the least we can do is remove barriers to entr

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