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Journal smittyoneeach's Journal: You can all blame me 39

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I'm really past caring. Somewhere around the thousandth iteration, the trash talk just got tedious. It's my fault. I'll take the hit, like an RPG striking a helicopter carrying Brian Williams. I just can't muster the interest any more.

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  • That is precisely how everybody is expected to see the situation. It is our own fault! Once that is accomplished, the reaction will be the 'next big thing'.

    I had to look up "Brian Williams". That's some funny shit!

    Here's something that's not funny, well, it is, but the tragic kind:

    ...the arbitrator was biased as based on "supposed appearance of bias, as opposed to actual bias."...

  • I'm not being purposefully dense. I know you and a few others have engaged in some strange (to a Kanuck) political arguments, but "blame you" for what? Or am I just having a blonde moment?

  • There's a show on HGTV I think it is, with a petite blond lady who restores ancient decrepit houses and then resells them. The promo for the show includes a clip with her and her son and her talking about it being tough doing that and also being a single mom.

    The obvious reaction, it seems to me is, "who's fault is that?" She's attractive and, obviously is doing okay financially, so it seems like it's completely within her power to change that. If she really wanted to. So I don't buy the "woe is me" line

    • s/parablica/parablae/

      • Google shows results for "parable". Which one of us is unparsable, please? :-)

        • It's been a long time since one was able to get Google to show results for actually exactly what one was searching on. They took away search operators/your control and now just give you what they think is best for you. Kind of like an all-loving government.

          TLDR: Fuck Google. (And the Leftie horse it rode in on.)

          • So, what were you trying to say? Is that a Latin plural of "parables"?

            • How about instead: cryptica?

              (As in what you engage in with me, and I occasionally like to return the favor.)

              • I've got no problem admitting to being obscure. I bristle at the implication that I'm setting out to mess with you, though.

                • Apologies, then. I'll just accept that you're not interested in getting into any kind of real discussion with me. (Or that we're necessarily even able to, being on, as you said, different wavelengths. In spite of probably largely agreeing on things.)

                  • "I'll just accept that you're not interested in getting into any kind of real discussion with me."

                    I haven't said that. You've laid down terms, e.g. "Calvinist", I've responded. You reply with confusion. Overall, there seems to be a lot of "talking past each other" going on. Not what I want, but I'm kind of stymied in my efforts at making sure we've level-set the conversation.
                    What is it that you're after? Cheap belly laughs? Academic discussion?

                    • Reasoned arguments when you disagree. (Telling me that you're somewhere between one term that entails a whole bunch of meaning and another term that also entails a whole bunch of meaning, serves as a marvelous counter-example.) I'm not holding my breath; trying to get you to focus is like you trying to get DR to have a buddy study of Marxism.

                    • (Telling me that you're somewhere between one term that entails a whole bunch of meaning and another term that also entails a whole bunch of meaning, serves as a marvelous counter-example.)

                      It's a serious point: Calvinism is about Destiny, i.e., the sovereign will of God. Arminianism is about free moral agency; liberty. How do YOU resolve the tension?
                      In my personal (that is, never explicitly laid out in the Bible as such) thinking, the free will/Destiny question looks like to orthogonal planes [google.com] intersecting along this line known as "time".
                      That is, I think you can reasonably/mystically argue that any moment in your life you're both 100% doing your thing, and 100% carrying out your Destiny. The

                    • That is, I think you can reasonably/mystically argue that any moment in your life you're both 100% doing your thing, and 100% carrying out your Destiny.

                      That's nonsensical on the surface, so you would have to explain how it makes sense to you.

                      But you've only answered part of the question at hand. Even if you do believe that God has forced us back to Him a few times in the past, and that's why America could, theoretically, turn around, why do you assume He would do it again? I mean, He might (assuming for the sake of argument that He would), or He might not. As far as I know He never promised to keep America from straying too far from Him.

                    • . . .so you would have to explain how it makes sense to you.

                      My explanation would be a restatement of the preceding para:

                      In my personal (that is, never explicitly laid out in the Bible as such) thinking, the free will/Destiny question looks like to orthogonal planes intersecting along this line known as "time".

                      Now it's my turn to be bewildered:

                      Even if you do believe that God has forced us back to Him a few times in the past, and that's why America could, theoretically, turn around, why do you assume He would do it again?

                      As someone who has no grasp whatsoever of corporate salvation, "America could, theoretically, turn around" means little. Revival happens person by person. Just like salvation itself.

                    • The first is not an elaboration, and the second, based on what you've indicated in the past (I do pay atttention), is from either intellectual dishonesty or intellectual dishevelment. I'll assume the latter. Maybe we should just stick to toilet humor. Here's my lame attempts for today:

                      http://science.slashdot.org/co... [slashdot.org]

                      http://it.slashdot.org/comment... [slashdot.org]

                    • As someone who has no grasp whatsoever of corporate salvation...

                      :-) That's why you serve so well. And you are forgiven for not knowing what you are doing.

                      Revival happens person by person.

                      That's right, and everybody is at a different stage, and they need to learn to coexist together, on the same planet, where guidance, not theistic condemnation should be the rule.

                    • guidance, not theistic condemnation

                      Easily the most unintentionally humorous riff I've seen all day. Bravo.

                    • Perhaps you could parse my phrasing and tell me at which point you dropped track. The intersecting planes metaphor is as dirt simple and accurate as I can make it.
                      This is not not me being deliberately obtuse.

                    • The intersecting planes metaphor is as dirt simple and accurate as I can make it.

                      That's what I was afraid of; you think that's excelling at being communicative. Think of it this way: How would you explain it to your children?

                      Since it's a guessing game you require being played, I'll play for now. It seems like if I decide to go get a chicken sammich at CJ's for lunch today, either I decided it, or God made me decide it. So by your geometric analogy that you consider the epitome of clarity do you mean:
                      1) We both had a hand in deciding, as in I was leaning toward it, and God nudged me t

                    • either I decided it, or God made me decide it

                      I'm attacking your OR there. I'm throwing out the possibility, using a parable of two orthogonal planes, intersecting at the time line of your life, that it's more of an AND.
                      Past your snarky "in some drug-induced way of looking at it", I'm suggesting that the relationship between free will and Destiny is more than just the zero-sum game you posit in (1) or (2).
                      I'm arguing something 100% consistent with the Bible, albeit not explicitly mentioned that way anywhere.
                      Each moment on the time line of your life

                    • I completely don't get it. But I appreciate the effort; welcome to the human race. (Just don't be like some people and be discouraged and consider this all for naught; I assimilate everything into my noodle, and it *may* flick on a light in my melon *some day*.)

                    • Fair enough.
    • Nicole Curtis, the Rehab Addict?

    • Jeebus! It's a fucking script for a TV show. What the hell is the matter with you? Do like you do here, pretend to to tune out. Oh, I forget, you're jus' funnin'

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