Journal pudge's Journal: Lawrence O'Donnell is a Gun Moron 8
There are gun nuts, and there are gun morons.
Lawrence O'Donnell is a political analyst and writer/producer for TV shows, including "The West Wing" when it sucked, toward the end.
And he knows absolutely nothing about guns.
On McLaughlin Group yesterday he spouted the below nonsense:
It was a high tech exercise.
... The President found a way of making this historic. The way he chose to make this historic was to say this was the largest killing that occured in this history of this country on a college campus. John McLaughlin got it right in the introduction. He said it was the largest case of gun murder in the history of this country. It was a high tech killing because the magazines that he was using in his automatic weapon were illegal during the Clinton administration
... he would not have been able to buy them if George Bush and the Republican Congress did not allow them to become sold to mentally ill people like this. There were kids on that campus who were brave enough and big enough to stop one person with a gun unless it was an automatic weapon that could spray the bullets. Just spray them, Pat. That's why they couldn't stop him!
If he had to fire, if he had to squeeze one bullet at a time
... you hold that trigger and you spray it.
As many of you know:
- I think the Lakota Indians would claim the Wounded Knee Massacre was a much larger case of gun murder
- The number of rounds per magazine is largely irrelevant, since he already reloaded at least 17 times, and so obviously reloading didn't slow him down significantly
- High tech? This same technology was available a hundred years ago. Ever hear of "1911" pistols? They were semiautomatic pistols that held interchangable magazines of bullets. Cho's Glock 19 and Walther P22 worked the same way. You know why they call it a 1911? That's the year the U.S. military put it into service.
- IT WAS NOT AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON YOU MORON! NEITHER OF HIS WEAPONS IS REMOTELY CAPABLE OF AUTOMATIC FIRE! YOU DO HAVE TO SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER ONE BULLET AT A TIME!
Ahem.
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The only relevant thing I can see in the VT shooting is that Cho had been involuntarily committed in the past. This didn't show up when the gun dealer who sold him his handguns ran the required checks. I could see passing some laws to tighten that up a bit.
Cho shouldn't have been allowed to purchase a firearm under Virginia law.
The restrictions on magazine capacity wouldn't have really slowed Cho down any.
BTW I hate the way certain idiots sa
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The only relevant thing I can see in the VT shooting is that Cho had been involuntarily committed in the past. This didn't show up when the gun dealer who sold him his handguns ran the required checks. I could see passing some laws to tighten that up a bit.
I agree with some of this, but he was NOT involuntarily committed, from everything I've seen. He was accused of stalking, and a judge had him evaluated, and he was ruled a danger to himself, but not to others, and released. Never committed.
... the strong probability is that if they tried to get a restraining order they would have s
Perhaps he should have been committed. Perhaps there should be more ways to forbid people from owning firearms without resorting to committment. Actually, the stalking thing
The sale was in violation of federal law. (Score:2)
"Assault style" weapons were not used in this case.
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The gun dealer sold Cho the pistols despite his having been committed to a mental institution, which was in violation of federal law. [nytimes.com]
That's what I heard. Which, of course, has nothing to do with what O'Donnell said, except that it shows federal gun laws were already sufficient in this case, if they had just been followed.
"Assault style" weapons were not used in this case.
And even if they were, the dude still would've had to pull the trigger once per bullet.
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Wounded Knee (Score:2)
The military used light artillery as well as firearms in the massacre.
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